Bharat Mama to Turn Aryan White by 2045

[RealNapster]

What do you think compadre??!
Babri Masjid was destroyed on the flimsy premise of being on Ram Janma Bhoomi. Clearly, not all Hindus see it as a tale.

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It's a funny article lmao .

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[Well.wisher]

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Kaha tha satire and standup comedy dekhna/parna start kardo. See.

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[RealNapster]

Sahi kehte ho guru .. .. Salaam ha ap ko .

W.salam

 

[Peshwa]

Are you open to reading a book? If so, that scoundrel Bibek Deb-Roy, who is one of the three or four Sanghi brains in Economics, has written a monumental translation of the Mahabharata, but in, I think, ten or fifteen volumes. It's heavy going. I haven't read it all, but the translation is very detailed.

On the other hand, when Kamala Subrahmaniam found that she had a very little while left to live, she devoted her life to making very readable versions, in English, of both the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. They are not controversial, but eminently readable; I used to read her Mahabharata from time to time, because it's such a ripping good story. Strongly recommended, bless her for her sacrifice.

I don't like reading the Ramayana quite so much. It has elements which really trouble me, myth though it is. It also figures my namesake as a heroic loser, slain by treachery and deceit; not very nice to read. And the eponymous hero is such a smarmy, self-satisfied prig that the work is a bit rich for the digestion. Not like the earthy people from the Mahabharata.

This is for starters. I don't recommend the Ramanand Sagar movies AT ALL; they are pure kitsch (can kitsch be pure?) The thought of sitting through arrows striking each other in mid-air and giving off fireworks sparks is unnerving; enough to keep me up at night, unable to sleep. Let me look around a bit, but I fear no movie version will be digestible.

Urdu? I know there are those, but I need to look; give me some time and keep prodding me.



I just got some very strange looks in this cafe, snorting out cake and spraying coffee all over the place after reading your earlier post. I think they're going to ask me to leave.

Finally, someone who resonates my view on the Ramayana.
There is so much that I could not digest about the story and even the hero (even though we are to overlook these on account of his divinity) , and I'm not even speaking of the fantasy element of it.
Especially Ram's treatment of Sita was appalling!
But then again, It was written in a different time and meant for a different audience I suppose. Probably even Valmiki didn't realize the impact of the book or that it woul be such a massive hit amongst the Hindus!

 

[AshishDelhi]

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Kaha tha satire and standup comedy dekhna/parna start kardo. See.

Do you believe Mohammed used to talk to God inside the caves or he just copied what Moses did.
Do you believe religion and God are man made?
If you truly know then you will get the answer about ramayana.
In all honesty there would be more truth in ramayana than person x talking to God y.

I hope I have not violated blasphemy laws of PDF.

Finally, someone who resonates my view on the Ramayana.
There is so much that I could not digest about the story and even the hero (even though we are to overlook these on account of his divinity) , and I'm not even speaking of the fantasy element of it.
Especially Ram's treatment of Sita was appalling!
But then again, It was written in a different time and meant for a different audience I suppose. Probably even Valmiki didn't realize the impact of the book or that it woul be such a massive hit amongst the Hindus!

It's a religious text guys, a matter of faith. If it inspires you to do good then it is good else just a book or story.

 

[RealNapster]

Do you believe Mohammed used to talk to God inside the caves or he just copied what Moses did.
Do you believe religion and God are man made?
If you truly know then you will get the answer about ramayana.
In all honesty there would be more truth in ramayana than person x talking to God y.

I hope I have not violated blasphemy laws of PDF.

You have your point of view and i respect that. Go through the previous posts and you will find out that 2 of the Indian member's called Ramayna a fairytale and something methological. So i just asked do everyone think so ? And i got my answer which i accepted. No need to go that hard sir !

 

[AshishDelhi]

Do you believe Mohammed used to talk to God inside the caves or he just copied what Moses did.
Do you believe religion and God are man made?
If you truly know then you will get the answer about ramayana.
In all honesty there would be more truth in ramayana than person x talking to God y.

I hope I have not violated blasphemy laws of PDF.


It's a religious text guys, a matter of faith. If it inspires you to do good then it is good else just a book or story.

And the good thing is we can discuss ram sita relationship openly in India and be critical of ram.

 

[Peshwa]

It's a religious text guys, a matter of faith. If it inspires you to do good then it is good else just a book or story.

I totally agree. There is good and bad in each story if it inspires faith and hope in people, then it has done its job.
What bothers me is that people cant separate a tale/story/fantasy from reality and begin to perpetuate violence and destroy history of our land over it. Ram is a character, an idealistic one at that by Indian standard and his divinity in the story has made him infallible and beyond questioning.
That's wrong. We must question everything! Blind faith is a curse!

 

[AshishDelhi]

You have your point of view and i respect that. Go through the previous posts and you will find out that 2 of the Indian member's called Ramayna a fairytale and something methological. So i just asked do everyone think so ? And i got my answer and i accepted that. No need to go that hard sir !

All old religions are full of fairy tales. Coming to babri masjid, just read the history. There was a temple which was destroyed and a mosque was built. Temple was of great significance for Hindus and Hindus are fighting legally for it since British time.

What about vishnu ?

What about him?

 

[RealNapster]

And the good thing is we can discuss ram sita relationship openly in India and be critical of ram.

What about vishnu ?

 

[RealNapster]

All old religions are full of fairy tales. Coming to babri masjid, just read the history. There was a temple which was destroyed and a mosque was built. Temple was of great significance for Hindus and Hindus are fighting legally for it since British time.

This matter doesnt concern me. Its your internal matter.

 

[Peshwa]

Do you believe Mohammed used to talk to God inside the caves or he just copied what Moses did.
Do you believe religion and God are man made?
If you truly know then you will get the answer about ramayana.
In all honesty there would be more truth in ramayana than person x talking to God y.

You seem like a sensible person, so will caution that there is no need to justify the Hindu stance by pushing down another religion.
All Religions are man made and have an element of supernatural.
The point is, both religions require faith as the fundamental base to operate. their faith is theirs, and ours is ours. (hindu for me I suppose as I was born into a Hindu family).
Lets not get into a shit shoveling contest.

As you said, we in India can question our religion and gods without being persecuted for it. In other countries you cant. So lets leave it at that. Maybe its for the best.
Faith is a personal matter and as long as it doesn't take a violent turn or impinge upon somebody elses right to their faith, it is all good, no matter how outlandish!

 

[RealNapster]

What about him?

Can you openly discuss lord vishnu in India and be critical of him ?

Point behind asking : there are some limitations in every religion , every society. I am not waiting for your answer because i know the answer. And it is a big NO.

 

[AshishDelhi]

You seem like a sensible person, so will caution that there is no need to justify the Hindu stance by pushing down another religion.
All Religions are man made and have an element of supernatural.
The point is, both religions require faith as the fundamental base to operate. their faith is theirs, and ours is ours. (hindu for me I suppose as I was born into a Hindu family).
Lets not get into a shit shoveling contest.

As you said, we in India can question our religion and gods. In other countries you cant. So lets leave it at that. Maybe its for the best.

Why treat 2 similar questions differently?
Is ramayana a fairy tale?
Is person x talking to God y a fairy tale.
My answer to both is same, not abusing any religion or faith. In all I believe God is a good entity.

 

[El Sidd]

How much money is India willing to spend?

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