Bhagi Admi, Bhagi Batay. Javed Hashmi interview

[WishLivePak]

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[WishLivePak]

He talks about army involvement in PTI. I hope you people listen carefully.

 

[Meengla]

Not much new stuff but gets more interesting after minute 25 or so.
1) It was not General Pasha--but someone even above Pasha who goaded/misled PTI
2) JH was assured that PTI would not share a platform with PAT but look at the status today
3) Imran ran his party like a cricket team captain at times--expecting full obedience based on his mood; all else had to shut up except JH stood up then to IK
4) It was well in advance that a decision was made that PAT would first enter the Parliament House and then PTI would. JH didn't believe IK would actually enter P.H because of assurances given by IK but IK could not resist a certain message delivered via Sh. Rashid and thus broke his promise to JH

PS. I have seen both M. Lucman and Hamid Mir and it is clear to me that H. Mir is a gentleman and matured tv anchorman in comparison.

PS. Where is part two of this video?

 

[WishLivePak]

Not much new stuff but gets more interesting after minute 25 or so.
1) It was not General Pasha--but someone even above Pasha who goaded/misled PTI
2) JH was assured that PTI would not share a platform with PAT but look at the status today
3) Imran ran his party like a cricket team captain at times--expecting full obedience based on his mood; all else had to shut up except JH stood up then to IK
4) It was well in advance that a decision was made that PAT would first enter the Parliament House and then PTI would. JH didn't believe IK would actually enter P.H because of assurances given by IK but IK could not resist a certain message delivered via Sh. Rashid and thus broke his promise to JH

PS. I have seen both M. Lucman and Hamid Mir and it is clear to me that H. Mir is a gentleman and matured tv anchorman in comparison.

PS. Where is part two of this video?

Added full version.

I only ever watched Lucman once, about PIA (I was bored and wanted to hear about PIA and youtube brought up lucman only). Then I remember him interviewing about meera scandal. Goodness sake, no one knew about it until he brought interview. This just shows he's after ratings.

Also I think he meant to say Pasha was involved but the topic which was discussed, it had even higher personality. Who's above Pasha? Kiyani?

 

[syedali73]

1) It was not General Pasha--but someone even above Pasha who goaded/misled PTI

Meaning General Kiyani or Raheel Shareef? Obviously JH will present some proof of his allegations/hallucinations.

2) JH was assured that PTI would not share a platform with PAT but look at the status today

Had IK/PTI started out with a huge crowd of their own, yes, but in situations such as these, things are fluid and not always go according to the plan.

3) Imran ran his party like a cricket team captain at times--expecting full obedience based on his mood; all else had to shut up except JH stood up then to IK.

Every leader does it like this. No institution or a party for that matter can function if everybody assumes the role of the head/COA. Besides, JH knew it form day one of his joining PTI that IK will be the leader and not him. JH is a worshiper of his own self and this is his main problem. Its not about principles or what not, its about self-worshiping. He is not alone, all of the present lot of politicians is suffering with this superiority complex. Urdu has a better word i.e. Khabt-e-Azmat.

4) It was well in advance that a decision was made that PAT would first enter the Parliament House and then PTI would. JH didn't believe IK would actually enter P.H because of assurances given by IK but IK could not resist a certain message delivered via Sh. Rashid and thus broke his promise to JH.

Look at my response to point# 2. Besides, JH is assuming too much.

 

[WishLivePak]

1) It was not General Pasha--but someone even above Pasha who goaded/misled PTI

Meaning General Kiyani or Raheel Shareef? Obviously JH will present some proof of his allegations/hallucinations.

2) JH was assured that PTI would not share a platform with PAT but look at the status today

Had IK/PTI started out with a huge crowd of their own, yes, but in situations such as these, things are fluid and not always go according to the plan.

3) Imran ran his party like a cricket team captain at times--expecting full obedience based on his mood; all else had to shut up except JH stood up then to IK.

Every leader does it like this. No institution or a party for that matter can function if everybody assumes the role of the head/COA. Besides, JH knew it form day one of his joining PTI that IK will be the leader and not him. JH is a worshiper of his own self and this is his main problem. Its not about principles or what not, its about self-worshiping. He is not alone, all of the present lot of politicians is suffering with this superiority complex. Urdu has a better word i.e. Khabt-e-Azmat.

4) It was well in advance that a decision was made that PAT would first enter the Parliament House and then PTI would. JH didn't believe IK would actually enter P.H because of assurances given by IK but IK could not resist a certain message delivered via Sh. Rashid and thus broke his promise to JH.

Look at my response to point# 2. Besides, JH is assuming too much.

Did you watch interview or cherry pick what you respond to?

 

[syedali73]

Did you watch interview or cherry pick what you respond to?

I am responding to @Meengla post. I have not watched the interview for I have no interest in somebody who deserted his team in the crisis and committed breach-of-confidentiality. Being a group leader myself, I value commitment and loyalty above everything.

 

[WishLivePak]

I am responding to @Meengla post. I have not watched the interview for I have no interest in somebody who deserted his team in the crisis and committed breach-of-confidentiality. Being a group leader myself, I value commitment and loyalty above everything.

Then you've no right to comment.

It's like you never heard a song and talk bad about it.

P.S., he does answer your questions. But some people will never accept truth and if told there is truth there, they'd stay away from it.

 

[syedali73]

Then you've no right to comment.

It's like you never heard a song and talk bad about it.

You seems to have personal issues with those who diasagree with your view point. I have mentioned very clearly that I am replying to @Meengla post, who has listened the interview and summed it up in certain points. I have replied to those points.

 

[WishLivePak]

You seems to have personal issues with those who diasagree with your view point. I have mentioned very clearly that I am replying to @Meengla post, who has listened the interview and summed it up in certain points. I have replied to those points.

He mentioned for first half. Second half he didn't. That is where Hashmi replied some question of yours.

 

[HAIDER]

JH has no credibility after his circus .....he is not bhagi he is bagharat........now he is back in Geo and pal of Hamid Mir now......

Forgive me master....

 

[Fracker]

The point which were pretty serious I think.

1) General Shuja pasha was active in Lahore..
2) TuQ & IK met in London
3) Musharaf's right hand wrote for Imran khan.

These all points are some pretty serious allegations, and commonly these points I bring out from the whole drama.

- Model Town episode was planned by X-ISI Chief?
- This whole drama was preplanned way before it's execution.
- One of the agenda was to free up Musharaf which makes Hamid Mir attack pretty relevant in this, since Hamid Mir was the one who informed everyone about this drama.

 

[SBD-3]

1) It was not General Pasha--but someone even above Pasha who goaded/misled PTI

Meaning General Kiyani or Raheel Shareef? Obviously JH will present some proof of his allegations/hallucinations.

This a serious violation PTI's party culture!

 

[syedali73]

1) General Shuja pasha was active in Lahore..

Present the list of his alleged activities with proof.

2) TuQ & IK met in London

So what? Nawaz can meet with Zardari (sadak par ghaseeton ga), IK cant meet TAQ. Why double standards?

3) Musharaf's right hand wrote for Imran khan.

Who is Musharraf's right hand? What he wrote and to whom? Present his writing(s) here please. Hawa mein teer chalaney sey kaam nahin chaley ga. Suboot do.

Model Town episode was planned by X-ISI Chief?

HairaaN hooN dil ko ro'ooN ki peetooN jigar ko maiN

• Did Pasha ask to remove the barriers outside Minhaj-ul-Quran?
• Did Pasha ask to do operation in the middle of the night?
• Did Pasha send Gullu Butt to lead the Police Mob?
• Did Pasha ask the Police for fire straight at the protesters?
• Did Pasha ask not to file the FIR for two months?

This a serious violation PTI's party culture!

Mazahka khezi sey baat nahin baney gi, suboot do. Clownship wont do, present proof.

 

[Fracker]

1) General Shuja pasha was active in Lahore..

Present the list of his alleged activities with proof.

2) TuQ & IK met in London

So what? Nawaz can meet with Zardari (sadak par ghaseeton ga), IK cant meet TAQ. Why double standards?

3) Musharaf's right hand wrote for Imran khan.

Who is Musharraf's right hand? What he wrote and to whom? Present his writing(s) here please. Hawa mein teer chalaney sey kaam nahin chaley ga. Suboot do.

Model Town episode was planned by X-ISI Chief?

HairaaN hooN dil ko ro'ooN ki peetooN jigar ko maiN

• Did Pasha ask to remove the barriers outside Minhaj-ul-Quran?
• Did Pasha ask to do operation in the middle of the night?
• Did Pasha send Gullu Butt to lead the Police Mob?
• Did Pasha ask the Police for fire straight at the protesters?
• Did Pasha ask not to file the FIR for two months?

Mazahka khezi sey baat nahin baney gi, suboot do. Clownship wont do, present proof.

Its just said yesterday i am sure now investigatuons would have already started in this direction. Results get shown in public or not will be another question mark. Becuase of army name in it.

At the moment, witeness is there, now evidences need to be collected. But for sure you cant simply reject him just because he left PTI.

Edit: so far model town incident concerns, i remember all news channel initiatlly reported that there are some terrorist inside. Later on, nobody even care to review that thing, who said it, why police was so keen to fire straight even in front of whole media watching? Clearly they were miss informed by someone, but after that nobody even look into these details, everyone did only care about 14 people died but not why that whole episode did happen in the first place.