Best thing to happen to Pakistani tax collection: Pay your taxes or get penalised

[S.Y.A]

If everything every source of money is disclosed in your income tax return, no one should harass anyone. There is a legal procedure for tax authorities to follow and no one should do any verbal explanations to any verbal inquiries. It all has to be in writing. Unless you are served with a written notice, I don't know why would you feel the need to respond.

I am talking about notices in writing. And I am talking about FBR, in Pakistan. Should, could, would, rules and ethics aret applicable here.

 

[I.R.A]

I am talking about notices in writing. And I am talking about FBR, in Pakistan. Should, could, would, rules and ethics aret applicable here.

Bai even if you get a written notice, all you have to do is file a return written response and keep a received copy with you. Kuch nai hota aur na he yeh kuch kar saktay hain. If he rejects your written response and proceeds with an amended assessment order, file an appeal with CIRA, if CIRA passes an adverse order, file an appeal with Tribunal ......... and if you can read write you won't need a lawyer on all these fora. Log khamkha in say itna dartay hain ........

 

[AZ1]

Dont know how mithai wala will tax return the file. He has to give 5,000 to 10,000 to tax accountant to file tax return and them dont know FBR may start calling him for their share

 

[Jf Thunder]

Everyone should file tax return even if they are exempt from income tax, this includes OSPs who live abroad, earn there but have bought any property in Pakistan. The ones who don't intend to ever come back may chose otherwise.

Now coming to why its necessary an individual including a salaried person himself to file income tax return. For the benefit of the individual he will have all his assets (bought from money on which he has already paid the tax) disclosed in his wealth statement (it is part of annual income tax return) and plus he won't unnecessarily get audited for any concealed income. It makes things easier, it will ensure that leakages within FBR are mitigated, it will help with accurate statistics and will bring the undocumented economy into light .... eventually leading to reduction in tax burden on salaried class.

bro, do you know how corrupt the whole FBR system is?
go and try to file tax returns, and they will prove to you that you are the most corrupt person on Earth, until you pay some bribes that is.

one woman who is 90 years old right now (Ma Shaa Allah, may Allah give her a long life), is a filer, she got quite a lot of property after her husband died. She receives summons from the FBR every damn week, even though she has no job, and gets her husband's pension.

No salaried class is not required to file their taxes if their taxes are already deducted from their salary, however in most countries even salaried class people also sometime file their tax returns to get some of the money back from the tax department such as unaccounted traveling costs or other unaccounted expenses related to work etc.

bro, my mother's pay slip has a slot for the NTN number but its empty

 

[AZ1]

bro, do you know how corrupt the whole FBR system is?
go and try to file tax returns, and they will prove to you that you are the most corrupt person on Earth, until you pay some bribes that is.

one woman who is 90 years old right now (Ma Shaa Allah, may Allah give her a long life), is a filer, she got quite a lot of property after her husband died. She receives summons from the FBR every damn week, even though she has no job, and gets her husband's pension.


bro, my mother's pay slip has a slot for the NTN number but its empty

Under clause section abc blah blah now keep reading those clause or pay bribe

 

[Crusher]

bro, my mother's pay slip has a slot for the NTN number but its empty

That is why pakistan is ruined, in other countries every registered resident gets tax number automatically and it is always published on your salary slips, but pakistani authorities (FBR) just don't want to work, they want people to do every sh1t themselves.

 

[Army research]

and what about the damn salaried class who are not counted among the filers, but have the taxes deducted automatically from their pay.
The Government should automatically include them in the list of filers. Paying up more than due tax, and still not being counted among filers, that sucks.

We are filed , if you didn't know yet even if your salary is cut every month, end of each year file your tax and then you get tax rebate back and become a filer

 

[Imran Khan]

Good to see pay tax or go jail

 

[313ghazi]

and what about the damn salaried class who are not counted among the filers, but have the taxes deducted automatically from their pay.
The Government should automatically include them in the list of filers. Paying up more than due tax, and still not being counted among filers, that sucks.

Does this actually happen? How is the system so inept? In the UK we have a system called PAYE (pay as you earn) and everyone who is salaried has their tax deducted before they are paid and it is all recorded with the Tax office automatically. Employers are legally obliged to set this up for employees.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Rather than issuing a general warning, pm Imran and his team should start bring people under tax net, step by step.
Do a top level planning first, and start by targeting a sector of it, may be land and properties first, then industry, then hard cash.
Keep one thing in mind, lower the taxes, and increase the nets, is the way forward.

 

[Jf Thunder]

We are filed , if you didn't know yet even if your salary is cut every month, end of each year file your tax and then you get tax rebate back and become a filer

so I'll have to go to FBR office, pay the bribes and perform the due process right?

Does this actually happen? How is the system so inept? In the UK we have a system called PAYE (pay as you earn) and everyone who is salaried has their tax deducted before they are paid and it is all recorded with the Tax office automatically. Employers are legally obliged to set this up for employees.

My mother is doing a Govt Job, so her tax is automatically deducted, and is also shown on her pay slip. But she is not issued an NTN number and is not classified as a filer

 

[AZ1]

so I'll have to go to FBR office, pay the bribes and perform the due process right?


My mother is doing a Govt Job, so her tax is automatically deducted, and is also shown on her pay slip. But she is not issued an NTN number and is not classified as a filer

Or pay tax accountant he will charge 5,000 to 10,000 to do the work. You have to register online on fbr website and then give id and password to tax accountant he will do the work for you

 

[I.R.A]

bro, do you know how corrupt the whole FBR system is?
go and try to file tax returns, and they will prove to you that you are the most corrupt person on Earth, until you pay some bribes that is.

I am a filer and for that I don't have to go to FBR office, use the webportal for that.

I may know FBR more than most of the members here, I have seen their ridiculous notices and how competent they are. I also happen to be someone who has know how of the tax laws. So no matter how corrupt an FBR official be if I have nothing to hide ....... he cannot scare me.

one woman who is 90 years old right now (Ma Shaa Allah, may Allah give her a long life), is a filer, she got quite a lot of property after her husband died. She receives summons from the FBR every damn week, even though she has no job, and gets her husband's pension.

I can draft a written response (to file with FBR) for her, hopefully they won't come chasing her after that. If you wish you can share the details and don't worry I am not a lawyer who would charge for that.

 

[313ghazi]

so I'll have to go to FBR office, pay the bribes and perform the due process right?


My mother is doing a Govt Job, so her tax is automatically deducted, and is also shown on her pay slip. But she is not issued an NTN number and is not classified as a filer

That's terrible. I wonder if her tax is even being paid, or if the employer is taking it for himself.

Maybe it's best to check with an accountant who knows about tax matters to see what is actually going on.

use this site maybe?

https://www.fbr.gov.pk/categ/register-income-tax/51147/30846/61149

 

[Nasr]

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Nothing wrong with that, so long as the corrupt bureaucracy and their associated thugs have their ill-gotten wealth confiscated and they are thrown into prison.

It is Pakistan's Middle Class and Lower Middle Class that needs tax breaks. A combination of that with creating sustainable jobs will ensure alleviation of poverty. Couple that with standardizing education system throughout the country, will lay the foundation for a brighter future for our people.

Taxes, when paid by citizens, in full and to a government that is honest, trustworthy and diligent in spending the tax payer money in the correct manner, which would benefit the people. That is the recipe for a better Pakistan, along with standardized education, vocational training and creating sustainable jobs.