best option for pakistan in iran war

[Imad.Khan]

Hi,

No we cannot---. Never let the US military enter you arena---they have tasted blood---.

Do not create a situation where the U S military has to enter---.

That is why---pakistan's entry into yemen crisis was very important---.

Now that the U S enter the iran arena---then what is next---the ultimate target---pakistan's assets---.

Iranians are stupid---mark my words---they have done every thing to sabotage our tactical strength---and we are bigger stupid than them---.

This current game is to de-fang pakistan of its assets---and all the pakistani fools are yapping over here---clueless as to what is at stake---.

You have no clue of the monstrosity of the american military machine---.

And thats exactly what i wanted to bring out from my questionnaire.

 

[Englishman]

In other words help USA take out eye-ran.

Have Pakistan completely surrounded.

Bye bye Pakistani nukes

Welcome greater Israel

What a pathetic original poster. Didn't know people had started mating with vegetables in Pakistan...

 

[Wow]

Let the Iranian fight there own battles seal the border

 

[313ghazi]

The right option for us is neutrality and waiting it out. I'm usually all for being proactive but I sincerely believe any involvement in this conflict would burn us.

Also just to put it out there, I don't think there will be a war. This rhetoric is probably a distraction from something else.

Assume there is a war though. We should remain neutral, officially be against the war and suggest peace talks and a cessation of hostilities and most importantly Fence or border like our life depends on it.

If the Americans or the Gulf Arabs ask for our support we should privately over-play our "sectarian unrest" card. We should promise to protect the territorial integrity of the Saudis (because it will never be in threat) at most.

Why? Well for a start I don't think we're nearly as valuable as some of our members think we are in this conflict. If Iran starts a war they'll have to go through the USA to get to the Gulf Arabs. This is the type of war they're specialists in. What can we provide that the USA cannot?

I also don't trust the Americans to go through with regime change properly. People think Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria were mistakes - I think the chaos was deliberate. The civil wars that ensued the American involvements will destroy generations. Why risk American lives where you can get them to kill each other for your scraps?

This will mean there probably won't be a nice new government to make friends with. It will also mean conflict and the trouble that comes with it on another on of our border, funnily enough the one the Chinese want to build OBOR along. If you're the American, do you replace the Iranian regime now, or let them fight it out, knowing full well you can sway who comes out on top with slight interference here and there. If you do the latter, it gives plenty of opportunity for weapons, drugs, terrorists and refugees to run along Balochistan, ruining CPEC, poking the Chinese in the eye and keeping Pakistan a basket case economy.

We should Fence our border, tell the Yanks and Arabs its our way of preventing Iranian influenced elements crossing into Iran to support an insurgency.

We should then see what happens next. If an alternative regime is put in place we should take the opportunity for a massive diplomatic reset. If the mullahs end up holding on (like Assad) at least we didn't burn anymore bridges.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

During the period of Fitne and Fesat a Hadis-I Sherif advises folks to walk if running, to stop if walking, to sit down if standing up, to lie down if sitting!!!! Pak might not be doing anything right now other than taking care of her own folks, security, economy etc. But, when the dust settles down she'll be in a flurry of activities of her lifetime!!!

My observations:

• I think sanctions will be taken to the ultimate level. So, the porous land borders my be Iran's only outlet for trade. It means less terrorism and more trade opportunities for those folks living in the bordering regions
• Thanks to President Trump Turkey, Iran and Pak may ultimately be connected!! Of course it depends on the Iranian folks' thinking rationally out of the box
• As for the GCC/KSA, they will now need Pak more than ever before as the PLAN gets unfolded

Gorelim Mevla neyler
Neylerse guzel eyler

Let's see what Mevla has in store for us
Whatever it is HE renders it auspicious

And how the focus is slowly switching from South China Sea to CPEC area is simply astonishing! So the real target is China I assume!

But, at the end of the day, China somehow reaps all the benefits....

 

[Narcissist]

Tell me how in one way US has done something positive for Pakistan since Trump came into power, even Obama was rabidly anti-Pakistani.

Obama was definitely worse. With Trump I think Pakistan could have handled it better, but it doesn't matter now because it's too late.

 

[macnurv]

the only logical thing from here for pakistan.
join USA GCC wholeheartedly
demand 8 things which will be super easy.
1:afghanistan which they are leaving anyway.
2:struck off all debts which can be done with strock of pen.
3: atleast 10 billion aid.5 from usa 5 from gcc combined.and plus 100 billion investment.from allies.
4: engage 100k troops.
but demand 25% of irani land bordering pakistan.and also a slice from other resources.by this we will fully control hormuz and our standing in gulf will reach skies.we maybe even invited to GcC in future.
5: make a long-standing alliance peg rupee with dollar do a currency reforms take 100 old rupees and give em 1 new rupee a stronger rupee pegged with usd ask FTA from america and gcc.
6:push for an arms deal.worth 50 billion upgrade the whole military.csf alone of 2bln from us will contribute enough on top gulf allies can fund us like egypt.
7:ack as a bride between america and china which we always were.
the FTA which we will get will force china to relocate huge industries to pakistan making us a manufacturing hub of region.
8:to make things solid throw an idea of giving 2 bases to america one shamsi.another along arabian sea.this will guarantee future of relationship and make americans committed ro the understandings.
with this small adjustment we will be from no body of today in a year will be super power.cherry on top nukes and cpec.
indians only understand language of power.they will come on term like good boys
we will see a prosperity like never before all we need is some courage
@MastanKhan @Mangus Ortus Novem @Khafee @waz @BHarwana @Winchester

You sir are a typical example of those who does not learn from history. Have we not lost enough by becoming a part of previous US war, to this day we are paying in terms of life and economy. I surely hope that those in corridors of power have more common sense than you have demonstrated here.

If US decides to attack Iran, our immediate concerns are to be securing our borders air tight and not be a part of this conflict. This war wont just remain limited to Iran and its immediate neighbours, but will set the whole Middle East on fire.

 

[Humble Analyst]

No matter what Pakistan does everybody knows which are the next countries on the list...

 

[MastanKhan]

Everything which we are suffering today began with Musharraf: proxy terrorism, isolation from our neighbors, Loss our narrative on Kashmir globally, NROs for all corrupt personalities, hate and anger in Afghanistan against us, and our current economic distress.

He was just as dangerous for Pakistan as Nawaz and Zardari.

Hi,

What an illiterate eanswer---.

Everything we are suffering today is because of pakistani public---. It took them 13 years after 9/11 to accept the truth that was staring on their faces is that the terrorists were not their brothers in islam---. Osama Bin Laden that murdering bas-tard was humping his 16 years old wife when pakistanis were dying left and right thinking that he was the saint incarnate---.

Paskistanis are not a nation----they are like cows---they are a herd of sheep---no character---no identity---no sovereign standing---. Every thug and murderer who claimed a religious name became their source of salvation---.

If red mosque Moulvi had created that scenarior during any Khalifa of islam time---the Khalifa would have had him---all the women---girls---boys---men and their families executed in a manner that none would cause a stir against the will and writ of state---.

But my nation---supported the Moulvi who had built a mosque on a HARAM place that was not the legal property of the mosque but was a stolen property by force---.

A nation that cannot distinguish between that character of a mosque being haram or halal---what is expected of that nation except for confusion and chaos---.

A mosque that has no identity of honesty behind it---a follower who has no understanding of his belief---.

Pakistanis have disgraced themselves and their nation for not being pakistani first---not standing with the flag of pakistan---but prefered the thug and criminal Osama Bin Laden---a man who had the blood of 2 million innocent afghan citizens---.

And you have the audacity to blame Gen Musharraf---.

Todate---the incursion of the US military has resulted in the deaths of around 6 million muslims in the effected region in the last 18 years---.

More deaths than were caused by the invasion of Hulagu Khan---.

If it was not for Gen Mushrraf---that number alone would have superceded in pakistan alone---.

 

[Mandalorian_CA]

Pakistan's best option is to fence the border with Iran, ASAP or get ready with another influx of refugees.

 

[CriticalThinker02]

Look let's face it. Most here despise Shia Irani. Like members say look what these insidious Irani do. They shoot our soldiers, they fire missiles into Pakistan, they kill our respect maulanas, they side with India. This offers pPakistan perfect opportunity to sort out the Irani curse. Pakistan has the golden opportunity to join Israel, saudia Arabia, UAE, USA to destroy this Shia terrorist rogue state.

Now is the time for it. Go for it. Best of all walk away with loads of money ..

More than 20% to 25% of Pakistani population are shias, opening this can of worms is just not worth it no matter how much money is offered , only a fool would trust the US in any deal.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Want peanuts ?
Want to loss billions just like more then $200bln in 17 years of afghan war ?
Want sectarian conflict ?
Want complete disaster ?

Then OK you can agree with OP

 

[Titanium100]

Want peanuts ?
Want to loss billions just like more then $200bln in 17 years of afghan war ?
Want sectarian conflict ?
Want complete disaster ?

Then OK you can agree with OP

Sectarian? Anyone standing in front of the pakistani gov't will die Pakistani or not and will be brushed aside as Terrorist especially any iranian element.

You question the resolve of the pakistani gov't and majority? They are indeed heavy handed they just need that little push you will see

 

[Imad.Khan]

Okay @ali_raza let's attack Iran. Here is what we need.

72 F-35A
10 AWAC
250 Abraham
5 C-17
2 general Ford class with F-35C
4 Ohio class subs
11 batteries of PAC 3
96 Apache
35 CH-47
46 A-10
150 armed drones
2 com 2 remort sensing and 3 earth imaging SATs.
Few ageis destroyers
Few landing ships.

Can you please add a cpl of brand spanking new Mustags in Kona Blue

 

[War Thunder]

the only logical thing from here for pakistan.
join USA GCC wholeheartedly
demand 8 things which will be super easy.
1:afghanistan which they are leaving anyway.
2:struck off all debts which can be done with strock of pen.
3: atleast 10 billion aid.5 from usa 5 from gcc combined.and plus 100 billion investment.from allies.
4: engage 100k troops.
but demand 25% of irani land bordering pakistan.and also a slice from other resources.by this we will fully control hormuz and our standing in gulf will reach skies.we maybe even invited to GcC in future.
5: make a long-standing alliance peg rupee with dollar do a currency reforms take 100 old rupees and give em 1 new rupee a stronger rupee pegged with usd ask FTA from america and gcc.
6:push for an arms deal.worth 50 billion upgrade the whole military.csf alone of 2bln from us will contribute enough on top gulf allies can fund us like egypt.
7:ack as a bride between america and china which we always were.
the FTA which we will get will force china to relocate huge industries to pakistan making us a manufacturing hub of region.
8:to make things solid throw an idea of giving 2 bases to america one shamsi.another along arabian sea.this will guarantee future of relationship and make americans committed ro the understandings.
with this small adjustment we will be from no body of today in a year will be super power.cherry on top nukes and cpec.
indians only understand language of power.they will come on term like good boys
we will see a prosperity like never before all we need is some courage
@MastanKhan @Mangus Ortus Novem @Khafee @waz @BHarwana @Winchester

The worst and completely illogical thing to do for Pakistan.
Join zionists in attacking Iran and be the next target right after Iran.

You kids really need to grow some brains and ability to decipher the real knowledge instead of being a victim to the Matrix.