Ben Affleck gets worked up defending Islam on Bill Maher's show

[gambit]

All they are saying is that he is not as hardcore Zionist as they would like.

Also note that Bill Maher is commenting on Israeli influence on US politics, he is not criticizing the abuse of religion (Judaism, in this case) for political purposes.

You sounds like the guys over at Stormfront -- any Jewish ancestry, even one drop of blood, make the person a Jew.

 

[Developereo]

You sounds like the guys over at Stormfront -- any Jewish ancestry, even one drop of blood, make the person a Jew.

Brilliant.
You could have just written that you lack the intellectual skills, knowledge and honesty to counter with specifics.

Orthodox Jewish law dictates that a person is Jewish if their mother is Jewish. Period. You cannot opt in, and you cannot opt out.

When running out of arguments, just start shouting "anti-Semite".

Bill Maher is intellectually dishonest. He criticizes religious extremists in Christianity and Islam, but does not dare apply the same standards to Jewish fanatics.

He is a bigot and he happens to be Jewish (by birth).

 

[gambit]

Brilliant.
You could have just written that you lack the intellectual skills, knowledge and honesty to counter with specifics.

Orthodox Jewish law dictates that a person is Jewish if their mother is Jewish. Period. You cannot opt in, and you cannot opt out.

When running out of arguments, just start shouting "anti-Semite".

Bill Maher is intellectually dishonest. He criticizes religious extremists in Christianity and Islam, but does not dare apply the same standards to Jewish fanatics.

He is a bigot and he happens to be Jewish (by birth).

Religious laws do not trump secular laws in the US. And least of all in a person's mind. If Maher does not consider himself a Jew but a Catholic, then as far as he is concerned, he is Catholic, regardless of what Jewish religious laws says about him and his ancestry. If any secular laws have any involvement in his religious affiliation, then it will be from what he declared himself, not that Jewish religious laws says about him and his ancestry.

But if you are willing to go that route, would you say that Barack Obama is a Muslim because his father is a Muslim and under Muslim customs, Barack Obama MUST be a Muslim ?

 

[Developereo]

Religious laws do not trump secular laws in the US. And least of all in a person's mind. If Maher does not consider himself a Jew but a Catholic, then as far as he is concerned, he is Catholic, regardless of what Jewish religious laws says about him and his ancestry. If any secular laws have any involvement in his religious affiliation, then it will be from what he declared himself, not that Jewish religious laws says about him and his ancestry.

But if you are willing to go that route, would you say that Barack Obama is a Muslim because his father is a Muslim and under Muslim customs, Barack Obama MUST be a Muslim ?

If there is an Orthodox Muslim decree that says that a child of a Muslim mother is automatically Muslim, then you could start making the case.

Since you are making the equivalence, I am sure you will show the readers where there is such a thing. Being a Muslim is not a genetic trait.

Jewishness. by contrast, is considered both a religion and ethnicity. Orthodox Jewish law claims that a person is Jewish if their mother is Jewish.

It doesn't matter what Bill Maher claims to be.

What matters is his demonstrated bias in favor of Jewish fanatics, which makes it legitimate to point out his Jewish connection.

 

[gambit]

If there is an Orthodox Muslim decree that says that a child of a Muslim mother is automatically Muslim, then you could start making the case.

Since you are making the equivalence, I am sure you will show the readers where there is such a thing.

Jewishness. by contrast, is considered both a religion and ethnicity. Orthodox Jewish law claims that a person is Jewish if their mother is Jewish.

That Orthodox view, combined with Bill Maher's demonstrated bias in favor of Jewish fanatics, makes it legitimate to point out his Jewish connection.

I do not care about religious laws, and neither do the vast majority of Americans. If Maher say he is a Catholic, which he was raised as, then Maher is a Catholic regardless of what Jewish religious laws says. Maher was ignorant of his mother's ancestry until his teenage yrs. What you say of his Jewish relationship smacks nothing but Stormfront mentality.

Face it, you got busted.

 

[Developereo]

I do not care about religious laws, and neither do the vast majority of Americans. If Maher say he is a Catholic, which he was raised as, then Maher is a Catholic regardless of what Jewish religious laws says. Maher was ignorant of his mother's ancestry until his teenage yrs. What you say of his Jewish relationship smacks nothing but Stormfront mentality.

Once again, when facts fail you, all you can do is scream "anti-Semitism".

Face it, you got busted.

Readers can see who is the cut-ans-paste imbecile who jumped into an argument without knowing the facts and got smacked yet again.

 

[gambit]

Once again, when facts fail you, all you can do is scream "anti-Semitism".

I doubt that you knew Maher was raised as a Catholic and jumped to conclusion that he is a Jew by his Jewish sounding name alone. So you screamed 'Joooooo...' the way a Stormfront goon normally would.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Saw tht a few days ago.. Ben is a nice guy..(fan of his movies like pearl harbour,Charles town etc)..Maher acting like the turd he is.. In another show he was owned by tht former CIA dude..

those are his worst

 

[Zarvan]

Bill maher types repeat what ISIS claims.

That's unfortunate to see.

Educated Americans should be much better than ISIS monkeys.



Sadly those verses have been abandoned by millions upon millions of Muslims.

This is especially true for many of the societies and regions that claim to be the flag bearers of Islam

Iran - there is compulsion and a lot of it, all thanks to pathetic ayatullahs
Saudi - there is compulsion and a lot of it, all thanks to pathetic Mullahs
Pakistan - there is compulsion and a lot of it, all thanks to pathetic followers of ayatullahs and Mullahs

And the list goes on.


Heck I see 100% intolerance even among those Pakistanis who are settled in the West for a long time.


So before you all start quoting Quran, make sure to ask an important question.

--- Do we really believe in everything Quran says?

or

-- we use Quran for cheap evangelism only. (and believe in all those Ahadeesh that truly slaughter Quranic intentions).



peace to you

We believe both in Quran and Ahadees because they are both part off Islam and have to be followed and INSHALLAH more than 98 % will keep following both because its must and compulsory

 

[Developereo]

I doubt that you knew Maher was raised as a Catholic and jumped to conclusion that he is a Jew by his Jewish sounding name alone. So you screamed 'Joooooo...' the way a Stormfront goon normally would.

You can believe whatever suits your little cocoon.

I have been following Bill Maher for a long, long time. He is not the only Jewish bigot who trashes Christianity, hiding behind the facade of "atheism". If the Christians don't mind, that's their choice and it's none of my concern. But when these Jewish bigots attacks Islam, while giving a pass to Jewish fanaticism, then I will respond.

 

[FaujHistorian]

We believe both in Quran and Ahadees because they are both part off Islam and have to be followed and INSHALLAH more than 98 % will keep following both because its must and compulsory

you don't have to convince here on PDF

Go convince butchers of ISIS, the Talib-iches, and that coward Mullah zawahiri.

 

[Zarvan]

In term of Hadith (Hadis), it should be interpreted based on the context. Some Hadith can also be diluted by the new ones ( if the context is similar) when there are contradictory between them, but many hardline Muslim is not aware of that. I see that the way they think is so simple, unable to understand complex thing. And I am agree with you that we should put Hadith after Quran in term of the importance, not in reverse.

Well yes and no we have to be careful before denying Hadees we may think its going against Quran but it may not and without Hadees we can't follow most orders off Quran because Quran just give orders Ahadees has the detail off method mostly @Indos

 

[Zarvan]

you don't have to convince here on PDF

Go convince butchers of ISIS, the Talib-iches, and that coward Mullah zawahiri.

ISIS are retards but these groups will keep rising until Muslim Governments start implmenting Islamic laws and work towards liberating Muslim lands

 

[jaunty]

His mother is Jewish and his intellectual dishonesty is on display.
Read my comments about his movie Religulous. If he was against religious extremism, he should denounce Israel. Instead he chooses to denounce Jews who oppose Israel.
He is a bigot who happens to have a Jewish heritage.
Yes, Jews can be bigots, too, and it sis perfectly fine to point that out.

His mother was a Jewish and so he must be s Jew bigot, never mind the fact that he was raised as a catholic. That is just your pent up bigotry against Jews speaking.

 

[gambit]

You can believe whatever suits your little cocoon.

Here is what else I believe...Only a Stormfront goon would believe a person is a Jew no matter how remote his/her blood or marital relationship to Jewry.

The fact that you ignored Maher's Catholic upbringing, Maher's ignorance of his Jewish half ancestry, and that you strained at Jewish religious laws to cement him as a Jew in your mind means you would make an excellent Taliban, the kind of Muslim who would advocate killing of apostates.