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BBC: India 'provoked Kashmir clash after woman crossed LoC'.

Taliban, pak army, al quida..all the same...not an ounce different..

Please add Indian Army to the list because this is what an Indian Army high up says. He claims that Indian Army beheaded two Pakistani soldiers as well in the past.




"Last year, for example, there was fierce fighting Karnah, some 140 kilometres from Srinagar after two Indian soldiers were beheaded in an attack on a forward position by a Border Action Team. Indian special forces responded by targeting a Pakistani forward post, killing several soldiers and, by the account of one military official, which The Hindu could not corroborate independently, beheaded two.The Hindu : News / National : Runaway grandmother sparked savage skirmish on LoC


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...c-skirmish-indian-army-175.html#ixzz2HYoQXB1C
 
why not to allow independent investigators by UN to probe the killing of Indian soldiers?


why India is afraid of it?

you are afraid that many things will expose India.

Since when did Pakistan become fond of UN? Or is it for selective convenience? UN SC has designated a person as terrorist and Pakistanis would not buy into that and he has been conducting business as usual in Pakistan and now they want a probe by UN? Why can't Pakistan probe the incident instead as requested by India?

India summons Pak envoy, asks to probe killings
 
Since when did Pakistan become fond of UN? Or is it for selective convenience? UN SC has designated a person as terrorist and Pakistanis would not buy into that and he has been conducting business as usual in Pakistan and now they want a probe by UN? Why can't Pakistan probe the incident instead as requested by India?

India summons Pak envoy, asks to probe killings


Pakistan already probed and found no such incident took place now since Indians dont accept the probe by Pakistan and we dont accept the probe by India hence the only FAIR play here is to ask UN to probe the incident.

But India is runing away from and independent and fair probe by an Independent body.

The onus is on India now.
 
Where's the "think tank" "elite member" who was saying area domination patrol consists of 40 soldiers?

Like I said in another thread that IA has different techniques coz our ops are not related to pushing terrorists inside another country and supporting them but countering them.

And this comedy thread is in " seniors cafe"..where only "knowledgeable" can post!!
 
Where's the "think tank" "elite member" who was saying area domination patrol consists of 40 soldiers?

Like I said in another thread that IA has different techniques coz our ops are not related to pushing terrorists inside another country and supporting them but countering them.

And this comedy thread is in " seniors cafe"..where only "knowledgeable" can post!!

normal SOPs suggest the number of personnel in a patrol .

However if we accept your logic that only two or even three soldiers were on patrol then it means their health is so much weak that it took 3 Indian soldiers to carry one injured and leaving the dead behind.


apnay fojyon ko kuch kosht wosht khilao . kangri pehlwan hain
 
As New Delhi raged over the attack by Pakistani troops claiming the lives of two Indian soldiers on Indian soil, and the mutilation of the bodies, the Union ministry of home has received inputs that suggest that Indian army units in the Uri sector could have provoked the incident. While there was sporadic firing exchanged in some parts ofthe LoC, a cross-border raid by the ghatak (commando) platoon of the 9th Maratha Light Infantry (MLI) in the early hours of Sunday could have been the provocation.

Top sources in the Union Home and defence ministries told DNA that the Pakistani attack was in all likelihood a retaliation for the attack carried out by 9 MLI.

The commander of the 161 brigade, stationed in the Churchunda sub-sector, Brigadier Gulab Singh Rawat, had decided to take a very aggressive posture. Sources said that he asked the commanding officer of 9 MLI to take “proactive action”, to launch a quick raid against a post that was harassing Indian positions.

The successful Indian raid led to the death of a Pakistaninon-commissioned officer and escalated tensions across the LoC.

Normally, such an escalation leads to the issuing of a formal alert from the Udhampur-based North Command of the army to all its formations. This alert should have gone out to all the three corps that it commands — the Nagrota (Jammu) based 16 Corps, the Srinagar-based 15 Corps and the Leh-based 14 Corps.

Of these, 14 and 15 Corps are the most active as they man the LoC from Jammu right through to Kargil, from where 14 Corps takes over.

Incidentally, the neighbouring 12 Brigade in Uri had just seen a change of command after Brig RK Singh took over from Brig BS Raju. Any change of command of a major formation on the LoC is a sensitive time and troops are expected to be on high alert. The absence of the alert led to all the formations running things as business as usual. That was when the Pakistanis decided to retaliate in the Mendhar sector that is part of the northern Jammu region.

This area is manned by the 25th Division of the Indian Army and 13 Rajputana Rifles was one of the battalions manning this sector.

While army headquarters believes that the attack was carried out by men from the Baloch regiment, it has not ruled out the role of a team of the Special Service Group (SSG) which is part of the elite Pakistani Special Forces. Reports suggest that the attacking party was dressed in black dungarees usually preferred by the SSG.

Another intelligence input suggests that this could have been an attack carried out by irregulars from the LeT after its chief, Hafeez Saeed started raising “Border Action Guards” to attack Indian troop positions on the LoC. Indian intelligence experts have ruled out the attack as a major shift in policy on part of the Pakistani General Headquarters (GHC) in Rawalpindi.

“We believe that this was a local action purely in retaliation of what the raid our troops carried out in the Uri sector,” a senior intelligence official told DNA. The Union home ministry is also looking at the role played by Brig Rawat and whether his “aggressive posture” could have been avoided.

There is a feeling in the government that Brig Rawat has a very “aggressive track record” which could have escalated tensions on the LoC at a time when the nine-year-old ceasefire was holding up well. An inquiry into the incident has been ordered by Army Headquarters and a decision on Brig Rawat could also be taken in the coming days.

DNA exclusive: Uri commander’s forceful retaliation led to beheadings? - India - DNA



interesting HOWEVER, we still maintain that we DID NO BEHADING! secondly india attacked firstly! Thirdly if india is so keen let's make a third party investigate!
 
Indian claim is truly baseless, filled with massive propaganda & massive lies against Pakistan.
 
normal SOPs suggest the number of personnel in a patrol .

However if we accept your logic that only two or even three soldiers were on patrol then it means their health is so much weak that it took 3 Indian soldiers to carry one injured and leaving the dead behind.


apnay fojyon ko kuch kosht wosht khilao . kangri pehlwan hain

Like I said in the other thread that probably a section or a platoon would be involved.

Now most of the cartoons commenting here won't even know how many men would be there in a section so I don't have the free time to explain all this.

Aur kaun pehalwan hein 1947-2013 k map ko compare karke pata chal jata hein.
 
The crying by the hindi continues.

Like I said in the other thread that probably a section or a platoon would be involved.

Now most of the cartoons commenting here won't even know how many men would be there in a section so I don't have the free time to explain all this.

Aur kaun pehalwan hein 1947-2013 k map ko compare karke pata chal jata hein.

Pakistan pwhalwan hai, India ko gosh wosht khelao, muchacho.
 
The crying by the hindi continues.


yaar last three day se dhamkiyaan de de ker sar main dard ker liya or apni finger main bhi type ker ker ke .koi pakistan ko kacha kha jaay ga to koi fry ker ke :rofl:
 
The crying by the hindi continues.



Pakistan pwhalwan hai, India ko gosh wosht khelao, muchacho.

Ghost kha k bhi SSG apnay ser katwa k aa jati...kabhi apni life me suna he ki Indian Special Force k commando ka ser Kata ho.

Ghost kha k bhi SSG ko regulars ne hara dia.

Kuch naya khilao bechara ko...
 
As New Delhi raged over the attack by Pakistani troops claiming the lives of two Indian soldiers on Indian soil, and the mutilation of the bodies, the Union ministry of home has received inputs that suggest that Indian army units in the Uri sector could have provoked the incident. ……

DNA exclusive: Uri commander’s forceful retaliation led to beheadings? - India - DNA

As I said in a different thread, this is a new perspective that we cannot discount, so thanks for the link.

I'd only note that even if you do go by this story, mutilation/ beheading is no response by a professional army, and goes way beyond the norms of warfare between two professional armies.

Well truth is coming out now.

Indians must never forget that how martial races from North-Western highlands of Indian subcontinent (Now Pakistan) have plunded/destroyed/ruled India for CENTURIES. Sardaar ji, hogaya shok pura "aggressive" honay ka? lmao!

Itni garmi hai to USA mein kyon baithe ho? Border kyon nahi chale jaate?

Or was your immigration officer watching as you typed those words?
 
STUPID title. How did the actions the IA lead to Paksitan breaking international law and the Geneva convention by mutilating the bodies of the soldiers??!!

There is no way you can absolve the Paksitani side for the horrors they have committed. Killing is one thing but then mutilating the body- you better hope this was terrorists otherwise the PA is in dire straits.
 
NEW DELHI: Indian army's Northern Command denied Indian media reports that one of its soldier’s body had been decapitated and another had its throat slit.

According to the Indian army's Northern Command spokesman Rajesh K. Kalia, the body of one of the soldiers was found in a forested area on the side controlled by India.

On Wednesday, India summoned Pakistan's High Commissioner in New Delhi to lodge a protest over the incident.

Pakistan's foreign ministry denied India's allegations of an incursion as "baseless and unfounded" and said in a statement that it was prepared for an investigation by a UN military observer group into recent ceasefire violations.

Indian army

here starts the backtracking lol
 
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