Battle of Badr: The first of the great battles of Islam

[Norwegian]

Vikings the best women stealers of their enemies and unmatched warriors if they ever came to India then they would have left their mark as well

Vikings were forcefully christianized and hence lost all their former pagan glory.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Vikings were like ISIS

Ive always found it strange westerners celebrating the vikings

unfair comparison.
ISIS is a death cult
Vikings established kingdoms and were master craftsmen . they are correctly celebrated due to their cultural impact, technology and fighting skills check out their jewellery designs and weapons which were way ahead of their time


by the way lets stay on topic

 

[RealNapster]

Muslims were strategically in control of the wells at Badr. In fact, Meccans lost because they were starved of water. Meccans were butchered as they approached the Wells of Badr:

YOu are just confused. the Meccans approched the place first and controled the well. and the surrounding place of well which is soil not sand. while muslims camped in a place with no water and sand below them. then rain occurs and the muslim side with sandy soil get flated while the meccans side with soil became mud. (wetted soil) ... so it muslims got water for drinking plus they became able to walk smoothly on sand.

 

[hussain0216]

unfair comparison.
ISIS is a death cult
Vikings established kingdoms and were master craftsmen . they are correctly celebrated due to their cultural impact, technology and fighting skills check out their jewellery designs and weapons which were way ahead of their time


by the way lets stay on topic

Yes lets end the topic its not the post for it

But plundering, raping, merciless killing sounds like ISIS to me

The only difference is the vikings are glorified

 

[RealNapster]

Muslims cursed the Meccan gods and also went against their beliefs, reason why muslims were persecuted and had to leave Mecca.

It was muslims who provoked Meccans. Meccans brought many proposals infront of the Prophet but the Prophet rejected and also rejected/insulted the old Meccan traditions.

The battle of Badr some say it was because of looting of Meccan caravans by Muslims, some argue that the goods infact belong to Muslims which are being sold by Meccans.

But based on the history, the battle occurred only after repeated attacks by Muslims on Meccan caravans .

Sorry bro .. you are confused. read my previous post for full clarification.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

The vikings would have been slaughtered against effective plain warriors like mughals due to their exceptional horsemanship and use of composite bows

Although were talking about different time periods and fighting styles

this is debatable. every top race of its time adapted itself for right time

you might want to check those ultimate warrior programs. the comparison of two top warriors has issues like you try to compare Apex predators of different time lines.
Vikings were sea raiders , mongols feared the sea. nations that conquered the sea ultimately became our rulers.

they were Amushers they wont have fallen to Mongol retreat tactic and would have adapted. they had their own strengths

 

[Norwegian]

Vikings were like ISIS

Not quite. They were armed bandits, much like early Muslims of Medina.

Ive always found it strange westerners celebrating the vikings

They celebrate Alexander "the Great" as well, although he delivered nothing to the world.

The Norwegian hasn't done a great job in wining on this thread.

I never try to "win" any debate. I only point out my opinion on the issue at hand

YOu are just confused. the Meccans approched the place first and controled the well. and the surrounding place of well which is soil not sand. while muslims camped in a place with no water and sand below them. then rain occurs and the muslim side with sandy soil get flated while the meccans side with soil became mud. (wetted soil) ... so it muslims got water for drinking plus they became able to walk smoothly on sand.

Check out the battlemap, Muslims were in control of the Wells at Badr.

 

[hussain0216]

Not quite. They were armed bandits, much like early Muslims of Medina.


They celebrate Alexander "the Great" as well, although he delivered nothing to the world.


I never try to "win" any debate. I only point out my opinion on the issue at hand


Check out the battlemap, Muslims were in control of the Wells at Badr.

Plunderers, rapists, murdering innocent people living their lives, abducting women and children, brutal killing of innocent people

ISIS=Vikings

All it will take is for ISIS to forge some jewellery and they will be celebrated a thousand years later

this is debatable. every top race of its time adapted itself for right time

you might want to check those ultimate warrior programs. the comparison of two top warriors has issues like you try to compare Apex predators of different time lines.
Vikings were sea raiders , mongols feared the sea. nations that conquered the sea ultimately became our rulers.

they were Amushers they wont have fallen to Mongol retreat tactic and would have adapted. they had their own strengths

Sure and i totally disagree with you

Once again were talking different time periods but viking tactics would be decimated by effective plain warriors on any battlefield they would have been hammered especially by horsemen and bowman

 

[Norwegian]

What if i tell you that battle map is wrong ?? DO NOT Relly on a single map. read some other sources about badr war.

I have seen multiple maps. It doesn't matter anyway, as Muslims won that battle with good strategy.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Battle of Thermopylae was a similar battle, in which vastly outnumbered greeks managed to defeat invading persian army with humiliation:
The Battle of Thermopylae

wiki says otherwise
Battle of Thermopylae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When all idols were crushed following the fall of Mecca?

yes because Makkah and Medinah were supposed to be the Holy places of Islam, do i see the Jewish cross in the Vatican?
there were no restrictions elsewhere in the Islamic empire, did Omar (R.A) break the church and destroy any crosses when he entered Jerusalem

 

[RealNapster]

In India also there are many people who predicted things and they became true.

there is a match between Pak and Srilanka. we got two options. You say Srilanka will win. i will say Pak will win. So as per your concept. if Srilanka win, then you are the god. and if i win, i will be the god. Ok ???

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Lol, go back to the rock you slithered from and learn history instead of barking nonsense.

How many Ghazwas were launched? Now picture what the scenario would be without them. No invasion of Persia, Egypt, Anatolia etc etc. Imagine that.

 

[Norwegian]

Plunderers, rapists, murdering innocent people living their lives, abducting women and children, brutal killing of innocent people

True, but it was hundreds of years ago. Today's Vikings are the best in democracy and most civilised of all people on this planet!
Nordic model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yes because Makkah and Medinah were supposed to be the Holy places of Islam, do i see the Jewish cross in the Vatican?

Jews say the same about their holy city of Jerusalem (Al-Quds) but Muslims disagree. They say Jerusalem is supposed to be a Jewish city, not Muslim, Christian or Arab. Good luck convincing them with this baloney.

 

[RealNapster]

I have seen multiple maps. It doesn't matter anyway, as Muslims won that battle with good strategy.

Ok.. you got 313 mens with 2 horses and 2 swords. and i will give you 70 camels also. the remaining 1000 mens with 200 swords will be with me.. Now come and fight. Show me your strategies with 2 swords in your armory..
U are such an A****le... It's the God help which make us win. By our Own we are not even equipped to stay in the battle for 10 minutes.
Talking about strategies. Chaa

 

[Norwegian]

Ok.. you got 313 mens with 2 horses and 2 swords. and i will give you 70 camels also. the remaining 1000 mens with 200 swords will be with me.. Now come and fight. Show me your strategies with 2 swords in your armory..
U are such an A****le... It's the God help which make us win. By our Own we are not even equipped to stay in the battle for 10 minutes.
Talking about strategies. Chaa

Its not the first time it happened. Israel defeated 5 invading Arab armies back in 1948. They did the same in 1967 during only 6 days of war and managed to capture a lot more territory than what they held before the war. In each and every war, Jews were outnumbered by Arabs many times over. Yet Arabs were defeated each and every time.