'Banned' JuD thrives in Pakistan

[Jaanbaz]

Those are usually the Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad yahoos ! They shout Ram Ram without having a clue about the Ramayana or the significance of the color orange!
Well! The media always loves to grab eyeballs!

I thought they were all the same. I finally learnt something on PDF.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Hafiz Mohammad Saeed. PHOTO: AFP

MURIDKE: It is listed as a terror outfit by the UN and its chief has a $10 million US government bounty against him, but Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) operates freely across country, testing Islamabad’s new resolve to tackle militancy.

The leadership of Pakistan vowed to end its tolerance of so-called “good” militants after a Taliban massacre at a school in Peshawar in December that killed 153 people, the worst terror attack in the country’s history.

The government’s list of 60 or so banned organisations features the country’s Taliban and secessionist rebels from Balochistan province, but the state has long shied away from action against groups fighting abroad in India or Afghanistan.

International powers including the US and India consider JuD to be no more than a front for Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), the militant group blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attacks that left 166 people dead.

But JuD denies any link to violence, and within Pakistan the organisation enjoys a high degree of popularity for the work of its charitable arm, particularly after natural disasters.

Following a UN Security Council resolution, the leadership of Pakistan said it had frozen the group’s assets after the Mumbai attacks – an undertaking it has repeated in recent weeks.

But at JuD’s headquarters, a sprawling high-security complex nestled among rice fields in the town of Muridke, north of Lahore, little seems to have changed.

Doctor Akhtar Hussain, a wizened old man with a long grey beard and a broad smile, heads the al Aziz Hospital in the heart of the complex which also houses schools where boys and girls study both JuD and official government textbooks.

Like the Palestinian group Hamas and Hezbollah of Lebanon, JuD has set up a network of health and education facilities across Pakistan, including five hospitals, 200 dispensaries, ambulance services and 250 schools.

When AFP visited al Aziz hospital, elderly women were lining up in a white corridor for eye tests.

“Laser eye surgery is free,” said Hussain. Further ahead, two dentists worked their way through their daily quota of 40 patients each.

The cost of treatment for a root canal is Rs50.

“It is a fraction of the price. In a private hospital I would pay at least 1,000 rupees,” said patient Rana Khaliqur Rehman.

After an earthquake or floods, JuD’s relief wing, the Falah-e-Insaniyat Foundation (FIF), is often among the first aid groups on the ground.

JuD leader Hafiz Saeed – on whom the US has placed a $10 million reward for information leading to his capture – is often seen in the front line handing out food.

Despite the bounty, he also leads a high-profile public life and regularly delivers fiery anti-India speeches. He led thousands of supporters in a rally in Lahore last Thursday to mark Kashmir Day, under the eye of a heavy police contingent outside the city’s high court.

“The politicians don’t understand our problems, but the Jamaat does and helps us,” said Saddam Sohail, a 25-year-old builder who is hostile towards neighbouring India, like most JuD followers.

“When the US says JuD are terrorists, it makes my blood boil,” added Ghulam Sarwar, a 55-year-old farmer.

Founded in the 1980s to fight Soviet forces in Afghanistan, LeT reinvented itself in the 1990s for “jihad” in Kashmir, the Himalayan territory that India and Pakistan control in part but claim in full and have fought two wars over.

Today, once again, the LeT is sending fighters to Afghanistan’s eastern Nuristan province, according to Afghan officials cited in a UN report.

LeT recruits most of its members from Punjab, where the level of education is higher than the national average, according to a study on the lives of deceased fighters published by the West Point military academy.

For Arif Jamal, author of a recent study on JuD, the popularity of the outfit rests on its stance on Kashmir and its charitable work, two elements that distinguish it from the rest of the main militant groups of Pakistan.

Its charitable wing is like a “shield” which protects JuD, Jamal told AFP.

“They have fundraised more through charity than other means and they recruited more people through charity than other means,” he said.

JuD’s position on the Kashmir conflict – regarded even by many moderate citizens as a just fight against Indian oppression – means they are not considered as a terrorist group, Jamal said.

Even politicians privately opposed to the organisation will never publicly speak out against it.

“Unless JuD spins out of their control, I don’t think they will ever target it, and that I don’t see happening in the near future,” Jamal said.
‘Banned’ JuD thrives in Pakistan – The Express Tribune

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It is listed as a terror outfit by the UN and its chief has a $10 million US government bounty against him, but Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) operates freely across country, testing Islamabad’s new resolve to tackle militancy.
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above statment says all.
its testing islambad ..
eithther islambad win or JUD
in case of JUD win islabad loose wchic measn GOP will loosee. whcih mean state of pakistan .. i.e idea of pakistan as per you constitution ..
So victory of JUD is loss of idea of pak by jinnah as its defetae to implement your constitition

 

[Zibago]

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It is listed as a terror outfit by the UN and its chief has a $10 million US government bounty against him, but Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) operates freely across country, testing Islamabad’s new resolve to tackle militancy.
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above statment says all.
its testing islambad ..
eithther islambad win or JUD
in case of JUD win islabad loose wchic measn GOP will loosee. whcih mean state of pakistan .. i.e idea of pakistan as per you constitution ..
So victory of JUD is loss of idea of pak by jinnah as its defetae to implement your constitition

JuD Karachi delivers relief package for flood victims worth 25 lakh rupees | Jamat'ud'Dawah Official English Website
http://jamatdawa.org/videos/news-clips/al-jazeera-report-jud-fif-relief-operations-flood-2014
Jamaat Ud Dawa | Pakistan Nationalist Association

 

[SrNair]

I always thought RSS guys wear orange dhotti with a dot on their head, they have swords and shout Ram Ram. I blame the media for it. I never even knew they had a Muslim wing too.



Okay.

No bro.RSS is always a nationalist cultural organization.Moronic VHP ,Bajrang Dal teams are quite extremist and totally different than RSS.They dont have anything to talk except religion.We also hate these VHP and like minded teams.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

JuD Karachi delivers relief package for flood victims worth 25 lakh rupees | Jamat'ud'Dawah Official English Website
http://jamatdawa.org/videos/news-clips/al-jazeera-report-jud-fif-relief-operations-flood-2014
Jamaat Ud Dawa | Pakistan Nationalist Association

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Dear ..
i never said .. they dont do charity..
but its UN decided ..
if GOP cant defend as you claim JuD is such g8 organisation from flase tag of terror .. what moral authouty of GOP to reprnset pak ?
is it not shame ?
why GOP frose account of JUD.. which will affect charity? then who is gulty of JUD or GOP?

No bro.RSS is always a nationalist cultural organization.Moronic VHP ,Bajrang Dal teams are quite extremist and totally different than RSS.They dont have anything to talk except religion.We also hate these VHP and like minded teams.

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many people dont diffrencial or undertnad between RSS - VHP- hindu sabha - bajrang dal

JuD Karachi delivers relief package for flood victims worth 25 lakh rupees | Jamat'ud'Dawah Official English Website
http://jamatdawa.org/videos/news-clips/al-jazeera-report-jud-fif-relief-operations-flood-2014
Jamaat Ud Dawa | Pakistan Nationalist Association

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Dear ..
i never said .. they dont do charity..
but its UN decided ..
if GOP cant defend as you claim JuD is such g8 organisation from flase tag of terror .. what moral authouty of GOP to reprnset pak in and outside ?

 

[Luffy 500]

Good.

And with all due respect i just want to bring the attention of pakistanis and muslims in general to think abt a much serious matter. Hafeez saeed is a pakistani citizen and JUD is a pakistani org. with 0 links to any "terrorism" if I am not wrong. But yet JUD has been criminalized and uncle sam declared a bounty on a innocent PAK citizen. Where's the say of PAK gov here? Where's the say of PAK judiciary here? DO US and UN (US lead UNSC) have jurisdiction over PAK? Who gets to decide what constitutes terrorism? Uncle sam and & its allies ? U don't even have to go into the arguments of drones. This is how US milked 9-11. Think abt it for a second. When they say terrorism has no borders, its not the gov of countries .......muslims countries that decide what constitutes terrorism. Its US and its allies.

@Zarvan@syedali73 @Horus @Chak Bamu @balixd @chauvunist

Please stop this non sense. A person is guilty unless he is convicted by court. So far none of the Indian courts have found him guilty.

Was Hafeez saeed found guilty in a PAK court?

U have a bigoted PM who got elected solely based on his achievement of slaughtering muslims in gujrat. He is a product of a communal neo-nazi org. like RSS. His election shows the kind of mentality Indians have.

It was a genuine concern towards those kids and their future....

What are they teaching to those innocent souls is anybodys guess ...

Concern from indians shows JUD is doing something good. The former chief minister Bengal AK Fazlul Haq famously said - if u find ananda bazar denouncing me then know that i have done something good for muslims of this province and if they praise me , then know that i have caused harm to the muslims of bengal.

Ananda bazar is a fanatic hindu nationalist communal newpaper & to this day it can be called the official mouthpiece of RAW. It is one of the pioneers of yellow propaganda.

@Zarvan @syedali73 @Horus @Chak Bamu @balixd @chauvunist

And the hypocrisy of some barefaced shameless trolls is so apparent here. When a muslim org. do social work its, terrorism/extremism , but when a hindutva org. like RSS/VHP with an irrefutable track record of terrorism and communal violence do heinous acts of extremism , its dubbed as teaching its kids "good values and upholding culture" and its somehow progressive :

Heartwarming sight ..... good values, taught young.

I have gone for many of these as a kid. Its good PT and learning about the culture of the country.

Thankyou for sharing the pic!
Felt good that the youth of India are getting good values and discipline

Nice picture. Self discipline and strength is necessary.

Swami Vivekananda - "Strength is Life, Weakness is Death."

 

[Srinivas]

@Luffy 500 Muslims say modi killed muslims but the same muslims worship killers of Hindus.

Modi failed to stop riots but Muslims are a different case.

One guy elected as PM who happens to be failed to prevent riots and the whole anti Indian forces are worried and are crying like anything. The same guys praise ghori, gazni , babur or who ever came to India and killed Hindus.

 

[acid rain]

JuD Karachi delivers relief package for flood victims worth 25 lakh rupees | Jamat'ud'Dawah Official English Website
http://jamatdawa.org/videos/news-clips/al-jazeera-report-jud-fif-relief-operations-flood-2014
Jamaat Ud Dawa | Pakistan Nationalist Association

There are thousands of social welfare organizations in the world - there might be hundreds in pakistan too, ever wonder why only jud is listed as a terrorist organization?.

 

[nair]

In other countries people also dont elect a 'terrorist' as PM unlike our neighbour
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I get all together different meaning for the word "Terrorist" in PDF......I hear your comrades talking about Modi being a terrorist, but they conveniently forgets the ruling party PMLN and its association with Terrorist organisations in Punjab (i have picked it up by reputed members in this forum itself).......

 

[Spring Onion]

There are thousands of social welfare organizations in the world - there might be hundreds in pakistan too, ever wonder why only jud is listed as a terrorist organization?.

relief operations does not absolve them of their crimes.

 

[Imran Khan]

end of pakistan is matter of time if terrorists open schools

 

[Spring Onion]

@Luffy 500 Muslims say modi killed muslims but the same muslims worship killers of Hindus.

Modi failed to stop riots but Muslims are a different case.

One guy elected as PM who happens to be failed to prevent riots and the whole anti Indian forces are worried and are crying like anything. The same guys praise ghori, gazni , babur or who ever came to India and killed Hindus.

the problem is you praise Modi for killing own people while all those ghazni, ghori baburs were outsiders killing outsiders for expansion. it is strange you guys are punishing own people for attacks of Mughals

end of pakistan is matter of time if terrorists open schools

 

[nair]

end of pakistan is matter of time if terrorists open schools

Well Opening school is not a big thing, if the syllabus is of government, here the OP says the text book is made by JuD, that is something surprising......

 

[Imran Khan]

Well Opening school is not a big thing, if the syllabus is of government, here the OP says the text book is made by JuD, that is something surprising......

do you think he will let this chance go to recruit young's for jihad e kashmir ?

 

[Srinivas]

the problem is you praise Modi for killing own people while all those ghazni, ghori baburs were outsiders killing outsiders for expansion. it is strange you guys are punishing own people for attacks of Mughals

You mean to say these guys never killed Hindus in their rule?

Check out how many forced conversions happened in parts of India including kashmir. Also check out how they beheaded, blinded, buried alive and tortured the people who refused to convert.
All this happened in the name of religion.
Genocide count is estimated 80 Million in India alone.