Bangladesh too will to have to pay dearly for the saffronisation of West Bengal

[Pakistansdefender]

Referendum 2020.
Merge bangaldesh with India to form joint bengal.

 

[Nilgiri]

BJP/RSS is fooling it's votebank. They say they will deport Bangladeshi Muslim.
Main votebank of the BJP in West Bengal and Assam Bengali Hindus. Illegal Bangladeshi Hindus in Assam thought that BJP will let them stay and kick out Bangladeshi Muslims. Hindu Bengalis of West Bengal are buying the same story.
West Bengal has 40% Muslims. In 1947 after partition Muslims were only 15%. So can easily conclude that most of Bengali Muslims are of Bangladeshi origin. Some were economic refugees. Other fled during 1971 civil war.

Now the point is how are you going to deport a major chunk of West Bengal and Assam's population.

BJP will try to trigger Hindu Muslim riots to win the election. But it cannot deport these people who have been living here since 40-50 years. They will only communalize the region.

People migrate. You cannot stop them. What's the point in unnecessary religious violence?
@jamahir @AfrazulMandal @Axomiya_lora

Bangladeshis whether Hindu or Muslim are going to migrate in crores to India due to climate change. We should accept them with open hearts. We should consider humanity

@Nilgiri Brother, I am not a terrorist or an extremist. But I support poor Bangladeshi immigrants. And I support united secular India too.

Its ok, just keep saying what u want to say....I never called you a terrorist btw....just said if you are working to bring in ppl illegally to India....then its a problem and authorities will have to investigate it.

You new pakistan "friends" that wish you well (because they assumed a lot on your positions wrongly) definitely also will have issue on your support to remove article 370...and I suspect you being against partition altogether (since muslims in S.A would be lot more consolidated right?).

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/anot...muslims-and-islam.623973/page-2#post-11560752

Article 370 should be removed. There should be no separatism movement in India.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @DESERT FIGHTER @Yaseen1 @hussain0216 @PakSword @newb3e @masterchief_mirza @I.R.A

and all others that were in this trolling thread:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-...e-are-burying-the-dead-in-their-homes.623953/

some were even giving you sympathy and support. Will they do so now?

BTW did you look at those threads in this forum I posted for you on the PDF pak members thoughts about indian muslims a lot of the time?

@Arsalan can you please check the identity of this poster to see whether is he some of other banned Indian sanghi poster under a fake Muslim name? He is spamming this forum with the intention of instigating his sanghi friends against Bangladeshi and Indian Muslims.

LOL @Riyaz Syed you are getting some tough love from other side too already.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Bangla desh should take west bengal and srtounding regions into it. Heck i even support assam into bangla

Hahaha good one man.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Its ok, just keep saying what u want to say....I never called you a terrorist btw....just said if you are working to bring in ppl illegally to India....then its a problem and authorities will have to investigate it.

You new pakistan "friends" that wish you well (because they assumed a lot on your positions wrongly) definitely also will have issue on your support to remove article 370...and I suspect you being against partition altogether (since muslims in S.A would be lot more consolidated right?).

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/anot...muslims-and-islam.623973/page-2#post-11560752

Article 370 should be removed. There should be no separatism movement in India.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @DESERT FIGHTER @Yaseen1 @hussain0216 @PakSword @newb3e @masterchief_mirza @I.R.A

and all others that were in this trolling thread:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-...e-are-burying-the-dead-in-their-homes.623953/

some were even giving you sympathy and support. Will they do so now?

BTW did you look at those threads in this forum I posted for you on the PDF pak members thoughts about indian muslims a lot of the time?



LOL @Riyaz Syed you are getting some tough love from other side too already.

Why would you assume I am here to make any "friends"?

Quite simply, regardless of any individual's beliefs or underlying convictions or even prejudices, at any given point in time, the enemy of my enemy is my "friend". You read too much into these forums I dare say.

Indian Muslims have to "try too hard" sadly, either having extreme religious views or completely contrived and visibly coerced-appearing pro-Hindutva views. Often they swing wildly between these extremes to keep their Hindutva hosts guessing. I don't blame them for being that way - just glad I ain't.

 

[MandarK]

. And Bangladesh is the 8th largest nation in the world. This is not a potato bag that you can buy or sale.

8th largest nation with 90th rank in land mass. Just a matter of time.

 

[Riyaz Syed]

Its ok, just keep saying what u want to say....I never called you a terrorist btw....just said if you are working to bring in ppl illegally to India....then its a problem and authorities will have to investigate it.

You new pakistan "friends" that wish you well (because they assumed a lot on your positions wrongly) definitely also will have issue on your support to remove article 370...and I suspect you being against partition altogether (since muslims in S.A would be lot more consolidated right?).

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/anot...muslims-and-islam.623973/page-2#post-11560752

Article 370 should be removed. There should be no separatism movement in India.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @DESERT FIGHTER @Yaseen1 @hussain0216 @PakSword @newb3e @masterchief_mirza @I.R.A

and all others that were in this trolling thread:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-...e-are-burying-the-dead-in-their-homes.623953/

some were even giving you sympathy and support. Will they do so now?

BTW did you look at those threads in this forum I posted for you on the PDF pak members thoughts about indian muslims a lot of the time?



LOL @Riyaz Syed you are getting some tough love from other side too already.

Brother, nationalism has corrupted their minds.
I believe in reunion of Indian sub continent. They can accuse me of being a sanghi. But I will say it again partition harmed Muslims the most.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

8th largest nation with 90th rank in land mass. Just a matter of time.

This type of discrepancy is not unique to Bangladesh. Japan is 10th largest nation in the world but it's rank in land mass is 61st in the world. Thirty years ago Japan was 7th most populous country with same land area. Even India is 2nd largest in population(heading for 1st in a few years) but 7th largest in land mass.

Bangladesh is 10th largest agricultural producer in the world. Imagine that, 90th largest country in the world is 10th largest in food production! This give you a clue why Bangladesh is 8th largest in population.

 

[MandarK]

This type of discrepancy is not unique to Bangladesh. Japan is 10th largest nation in the world but it's rank in land mass is 61st in the world. Thirty years ago Japan was 7th most populous country with same land area. Even India is 2nd largest in population(heading for 1st in a few years) but 7th largest in land mass.

Bangladesh is 10th largest agricultural producer in the world. Imagine that, 90th largest country in the world is 10th largest in food production! This give you a clue why Bangladesh is 8th largest in population.

This is not about discrepancy about about living space. You are already the most densely populated counrty in the world and you are no Japan who have the best technology in the world. Slowly you country will seek refuse from us because of your unbearable population. But I am sure that we will deny the same.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

This is not about discrepancy about about living space. You are already the most densely populated counrty in the world and you are no Japan who have the best technology in the world. Slowly you country will seek refuse from us because of your unbearable population. But I am sure that we will deny the same.

Do not talk like illiterate. Your Bihar, West Bengal has more population density than Bangladesh. Uttar Pradesh, Kerala also has population density almost at Bangladesh level. How they are living? Are they unbearable?

Bangladesh's population is not unbearable. Singapore has population density 8 times more than Bangladesh. How they are living? Do you find Singapore suffocating? Only some part of Dhaka city look unbearable. Go to villages in Bangladesh, plenty of open spaces.

 

[Mirzah]

Brother, nationalism has corrupted their minds.
I believe in reunion of Indian sub continent. They can accuse me of being a sanghi. But I will say it again partition harmed Muslims the most.

Partition was good for Pakistan and Bangladesh Muslims, we got political and economic independence and freedom from hindu oppression although muslims remaining behind in india got weak and preyed upon by hindus, but the same would have happened to us if we stayed.

 

[namefield_empty]

Population density of Indian states compared to Bangladesh, the more population density as claimed puzzles me.

 

[Bilal9]

I don't believe Bangladesh has anything to worry about on what happens in West Bengal. We will deal with whomever is in power and vice versa. Question of money, trade and power.

West Bengal economy is alive today because Bangladesh as a burgeoning economy, imports huge amount of agri-products and all sorts of industrial inputs through that state. Stop this for maybe one month and you can see dadas wetting their pants.

We are not even talking about medical/holiday tourism and how those factors are keeping West Bengal afloat. That is the other shoe. Let that drop and see what happens.

If border is closed down today, WB will go bankrupt within a couple of months tops. Our economy will actually benefit with local import substitutions. Look at what some Sanghi dalals tried to do with banning cattle exports from India to Bangladesh.

Our local livestock industry (and feedstock/agri sector) boomed.

Tourists will simply switch to the Middle East or Thailand for shopping trips and medical (Bumrungrad in Bangkok etc.).

Our economy will simply switch to imports via S'pore. Case closed.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Brother, nationalism has corrupted their minds.
I believe in reunion of Indian sub continent. They can accuse me of being a sanghi. But I will say it again partition harmed Muslims the most.

For South Asian Muslims, benefit of Partition greatly out weight the harm. Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims benefited tremendously from partition. I am sorry for Indian Muslims, but we had no other option. Partition liberated 2/3rd of sub continent Muslims from sharing the same land with filthy sanghi. If we were still with India, we would be living as an underclass where majority Indian Hindus call the shot. Before 1947, East Bengal Muslims were very backward, we would still remain the same if current Bangladesh were the neglected part of the united Bengal. Kolkata would have been the capital and all things would have concentrated there, living East Bengal as a rural backwater. Partition gave us the freedom and opportunity to shine. Same is the case with Pakistan.

Indian Muslims need to make best uses out of adverse situation as much as possible. Best would be to migrate to districts which are Muslim dominated. A population rearrangement within India is needed where most of the Indian Muslims will live in Muslim dominated areas and Hindu will live in Hindu dominated areas. Look at Murshidabad district in West Bengal, a big muslim majority district. There Muslims do not feel threatened or feel minority. Indian Muslims need to create some more of such districts for protection and fend of Hindutva pressure by demographic rearrangement.

I do not know whether you are really an Indian Muslims. If you are really one of them then I do not blame you for believing partition was bad. But your fixation with Bangladesh is very irritating. Bangladesh did not separated from India but from Pakistan. It is Pakistan which separated from India. Why you do not advocate such merger theory with Pakistanis? Why on Bangladesh? Do you find Bangladesh a soft target? But to tell you the truth, if merger of Pakistan with India is impossible then it is impossibly impossible for Bangladesh to merge with India. We held very dear to our language, culture, religion, heritage and all other aspects of Bangladesh. We have zero appetite to ditch all of these and vanish within a multi-ethnic mess that is India.

 

[Riyaz Syed]

For South Asian Muslims, benefit of Partition out weight the harm. Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims benefited tremendously from partition. I am sorry for Indian Muslims, but we had no other options. Partition liberated 2/3rd of sub continent Muslims from sharing the same land with filthy sanghi. If we were still with India, we would be living as an underclass where majority Indian Hindus call the shot. Before 1947, East Bengal Muslims were very backward, we would still remain the same if current Bangladesh were the neglected part of the united Bengal. Kolkata would have the capital and all things would have concentrated there, living East Bengal as a rural backwater. Partition gave us the freedom and opportunity to shine. Same is the case with Pakistan.

Indian Muslims need to make best uses out of adverse situation as much as possible. Best would be to migrate to districts which are Muslim dominated. A population rearrangement within India is needed where most of the Indian Muslims will live in Muslim dominated areas and Hindu will live in Hindu dominated areas. Look at Murshidabad district in West Bengal, a big muslim majority district. There Muslims do not feel threatened or feel minority. Indian Muslims need to create some more of such districts for protection and fend of Hindutva pressure by demographic rearrangement.

I do not know whether you are really an Indian Muslims. If you are one of them then I do not blame you for believing partition was bad. But your fixation with Bangladesh is very irritating. Bangladesh did not separated from India but Pakistan. It is Pakistan which separated from India. Why you do not advocate such merger theory with Pakistanis? Why on Bangladesh? Do you find Bangladesh a soft target? But to tell you truth, if merger of Pakistan with India is impossible then it is impossibly impossible for Bangladesh to merge with India. We held very dear to our language, culture, religion, heritage and all other aspect of Bangladesh. We have zero appetite to ditch all of these and vanish within a multi-ethnic mess that is India.

See brother, you are blinded by nationalism and fail to see the bigger picture. Maulana Azad was the best Muslim leader South Asia produced but many chose non-practicing Muslim over him due to nationalism.

You ask an Indian muslim from Hindu majority district to move to Muslim majority district. You think it is really possible? Will they sell their assets and business to move to an area where there are no opportunities?

Kashmiri Muslims want to separate from India. But do they care what will happen to Muslim Indians after such move. They don't even allow Muslim Indians to settle in Kashmir because they think they are racially superior than us.

In Bangladesh, you have ex muslims who mock Islam and beloved prophet on the internet. Your country is secular and has Islam as state religion. Does it make any sense?

All this is a result of nationalism. Unfortunately I cannot change your minds. So let's stop the discussion between us.
@DESERT FIGHTER

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Population density of Indian states compared to Bangladesh, the more population density as claimed puzzles me.View attachment 566253 View attachment 566254

Your first chart which give population density of Indian state taken from 2011 census. In 2011, population density was 964 per sq. km in Bangladesh which is less than Bihar and West Bengal. It do not need to be a rocket scientist to realize that since 2011 population in all these entities increased.

Your 2nd chart of Bangladesh's population density is taken from World Bank report of 2017 where only strictly land areas are taken into account. It exclude all the internal water bodies like rivers, lakes, canals, ponds and others.

For example, India's area is 3,166,414 sq. km but if you take only land area than India's land mass is 2,973,193 sq. km. Similarly Bangladesh's area is 1,48,460 sq. km but land area is 130,168 sq. km. World Bank data only taken the exclusive land areas of Bangladesh and calculated population density which it did with every other country in that list. That's why it showed 1265/sq. km. But if you taken total area(land+internal water) than population density in Bangladesh in 2019 is 165,000,000/148,460=1111 per sq. km which is less than West Bengal and Bihar and almost similar to UP and Kerala.