There are reasons to believe that the jets have already been ordered a few years back and will join BAF before June next year.Even if Bangladesh orders Fighters jets in 2017, delivery won't take place before 2020.
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There are reasons to believe that the jets have already been ordered a few years back and will join BAF before June next year.Even if Bangladesh orders Fighters jets in 2017, delivery won't take place before 2020.
There are reasons to believe that the jets have already been ordered a few years back and will join BAF before June next year.
That doesnt happen nowadays.There are reasons to believe that the jets have already been ordered a few years back and will join BAF before June next year.
How come BD join the so called pearl of strings for just buying two subs from China? if India can produce decent subs, BD also will consider it. Don't blame other because your own incompetency. Simple as that!I am really confused about your contradictory statements.
If these subs are no threat why bother commenting?
BD can only achieve deterrence capabilities as long as India does not perceive a threat!!! Against whom do you suppose we are seeking deference against. What are subs other than a completely offensive platform.
The subs according to you are obsolete yet you commend BN for getting them.
It is irrelevant what India has, BN does not require parity. BN needs to assure BD sovereignty and these fulfil the aim of area denial. Other navies simply knowing of the existence of BN subs will think twice before venturing into BN territory and should they do so need to come with an whole shebang of ASW platforms. That won't happen unless we are at war which I don't see as realistic.
The point of the article was not the Subs per se but that BD has officially joined the Chinese string of pearls alliance against India/US axis. The status quo has been shattered and there is nothing that US/India can do about it. If this article is part of a psy-war then it's very poor and much much too late, the damage has already been done and no amount of mea culpa will alter the current or future course of events.
How come BD join the so called pearl of strings for just buying two subs from China? if India can produce decent subs, BD also will consider it. Don't blame other because your own incompetency. Simple as that!
There is no India/ USA pivot ever! How many years have you been friend with Unites state of America? India is no more than a chess price of the Yankees. As many Indian members claimed that India liberated BD from 'Evil' Pakistan hands, why they seem don't like you nowadays? Things changed bro, there is no pivot from start to end.Umm......What are you talking about? Whose incompetency. Based on what I have said it is strange that you have come to the conclusion I have issues with BD acquiring these or any other subs.
Have you actually read the article. The issue is not about the subs, it is all about recalibration of BD away from US towards china.
US expected quite unrealistically that status quo by other nations will continue as is creates a U.S./India pivot in the region.
Inability to maintain and service them.
C'mon ! ! ! ! BOOM BOOOM BBrrrrrrrrrrr BOOMOr Bangladesh Navy want to taste our underwater forces for good if you want to know we are capable or not to maintain them?
How come BD join the so called pearl of strings for just buying two subs from China? if India can produce decent subs, BD also will consider it. Don't blame other because your own incompetency. Simple as that!
The purchase is certainly an effort to deny IN and MN access to our sea zone in the BoB. But, the Indian side may see the purchase from a different angle, a part of Pearl of Strings. Note one thing. Considering the mindset of BD people as well as the geopolitics of the region we live in, there is almost no prospect of buying made-in-India submarines whatever may be the quality. By the nature of training and due to historical reasons, our military is taught to treat India and Burma as foe states. So, can a country buy weapons from its foe?How come BD join the so called pearl of strings for just buying two subs from China? if India can produce decent subs, BD also will consider it. Don't blame other because your own incompetency. Simple as that!
for the Cakra class they are still running even though we bought them in 1980.
for the Pasopati class (Romeo class) we got 12 of them in 1960 and retiring the last of them in 1990's, after 30 year of usage. Although we are severing our ties with Soviet in 1965.
So far all seemed logical.
Or Bangladesh Navy want to taste our underwater forces for good if you want to know we are capable or not to maintain them?
There is no India/ USA pivot ever! How many years have you been friend with Unites state of America? India is no more than a chess price of the Yankees. As many Indian members claimed that India liberated BD from 'Evil' Pakistan hands, why they seem don't like you nowadays? Things changed bro, there is no pivot from start to end.
You sought clarification as to the reference to Indonesian sub .... Article and conversation referenced Indonesias problem In maintaining its sub fleet, which is what I clarified. The point of discussion was BD should establish proper maintenance and operational infrastructure, doctrine and plan to avoid the same kind of issues. Other forum members pointed out BD just did not buy the subs but also bought maintenance infastructure and have long standing no strings defence relationship with China thus Indonesian scenario is not envisaged.
Indonesia does not have operational reach in to BD waters.... I was not insulting Indonesia simply answering your question.
Next time perhaps read through the thread before responding.
I have to disagree. US is seeking to prevent rise of China by establishing various alliances as it is now longer able to exercise uncontested dominence over Asian waters. In East Asia its US/Japan alliance challenging a newly assertive China. In SCS it is seeking to get ASEAN nations aboard and in the IOR its pivot is with India.
Obviously as US seeks to create new alliances old alliances are destroyed. We have seen Philippines spectacularly dump US.
In the case of BD, yes historically US has been the critical point of reference strategically. But it has always been as a result of the Russia-India calculus.
BD became an indendent state from an United Pakistan because of a civil war and for internal reasons. Our external situation outlook remains static. Our prime strategic threat eminates from India and we will act to protect ourselves.
BD has pursued ever closer interaction with China since establishment of diplomatic relationship. China is BDs biggest trading partner, BD is China's second biggest defense customer, China is the largest infastructure development partner of BD, etc.
As India moved closer to US post collapse of the USSR so has BD moved closer to China. With the visit couple of months ago of the premier and official statement from both government that there is an upgrade of relationship between the countries I do believe BD has in all but name fully recalibrated its strategic outlook away from USA to China.
Correction: Mr. Parikar offered OPV which our Navy rejected as we build our own now a days. He gifted us some replica of helicopters though!!Yeh, USA wanna contain China as always. Let it be, we will buckle down and do our own job. China don't wanna any country to sacrifice its own interests for our own benefits. Now BD is till dependent on India somehow economically. Like The Padma bridge is for connecting China/ Myamar/ BD/India to boost trading. I'm not happy is that The arrogance some Indian members show in this thread as BD is not independent country! BD will not give up inducting subs as Mr. Parrikar just gift some cheap OPV instead. China is never a bully, just looks at the neighbors around us are getting richer and richer by doing business with us.