Bangladesh - dawn of Islamism

[T-Rex]

No I am talking about the persecuted Muslim minority of Bangladesh...the persecutions they face when their ideas are criticized online...

I am talking about these people

The fact that you bring up persecution of Muslims in another country to justify your bullshit in Bangladesh kinda proves your level of intellect.

Most probably that guy in the picture is a close relative of an AL leader. So don't bitch at me buddy. BTW why are you so uncomfortable when I mention your RSS comrades in india? They have raised suckularism to unprecedented height in india by lynching to death Muslims for eating beef. You should celebrate such a huge progress in india, shouldn't you?

 

[Skies]

The straight forward answer is , pakistanis don't suffer from identity crisis that we do.

Right, even they have lost in 71 they dont suffer from identity crisis but we do. Strange.

Also I think BAL supporter do not have identity crisis. Although crap to me, but they always look bold with Chetona Feelz. But identity crisis is prevalent in BD both in obvious and subtle manners. Even I feel identity crisis sometimes, especially, when BAL runs the country, to be frank. Yes, very unfortunate. But....But it will be gone someday, if BD can really become united. And the ideological division and polarization in people since BAL came into power has just increased the amount of identity crisis in people.

To me, one of the example of the prevalent of identity crisis in BD is that some people like Mujib and some people do not, unlike Pakistan and India where Jinnah and Gandi are respected regardless their political orientation, religion etc.

After all BNP is a continuation of Muslim league.

BNP is known as a party of gentle people. Although KZ is a good person (not venomous like Hasina), but she is not a visionary leader. BAL although fake/insincere, but visionary. And KZ is not intelligent but gentle. So to me still KZ is better for BD. Tareqe is also not different. But I think he is educating and grooming himself and seems little mature now. On the other hand, Joy looks complete retarded and nervous. On the other hand, I support Jamat to some extend, just because, as it can be the only right antidote for BAL. Therefore, I have no issues BNP-Jamat joint. It's check and balance to me.

After all if you don't try to help yourself , Allah the most merciful Lord will not help you .
Finally , pakistanis have spine , self respect , dignity , honor , self identity as Muslim nation , And we lack everything.

Yes we are like Na Ghar Ke Na Ghaat Ke. Today, both Indians and Pakistanis mock us.

Rain bow ( gay matter ) belt on kaba Sharif , tea pot on quran Sharif , all times they were bashing the charecter of our holiest man holy prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his holy wives ( who are the mothers of Muslim ummah) , can't be a sign of freedom and free thinking.

May be you should not spend your valuable time on these. Even do not reply to some people on PDF with long reply. It might not be your duty to make them understand. I believe, that Karma Is a Bitch and God is the judge. If God will, they will get their befitted feedback.

Lastly, it post is somewhat twisted. But unfortunately this is. I think I am also twisted. lol

 

[Neptune_]

At least you admit that AL is full of hypocrisy and dishonesty but that comes with suckularism, if you don't believe me check the history of PPP of Pakistan and Congress of india. You'll find the same record.

Ofcourse I admit it. It's misunderstanding from ur part If u thought something else. If tomorrow BAL sees that they can no longer remain on power without cooperating with religious fundamentalists or even jamat, they won't hesitate for a second to make an alliance. It's politics bud.

Having said THAT, I still consider bal to be comparatively more Liberal, progressive and less corrupt than other major political parties.

 

[Nilgiri]

Tell him I said hi!
Make sure to let him know it was from SHK originally.

Will do...I also sent you a msg about it.

My cover has been blown away. I m an indian now

Don't take too seriously...members have accused me of being Pakistani etc (because I didn't staunchly support BD etc when it comes to 1971 stuff)...and same kind of ppl have said Pakistanis like @django and others are bharti false flaggers too lol.

Online forum is place where this happens....simplistic people will not actually engage in a discussion beyond a certain point and just try ad-hominem undermine you. Best response is to not stoop to their level in return if you can manage it.

 

[Centaur]

May be you should not spend your valuable time on these. Even do not reply to some people on PDF with long reply. It might not be your duty to make them understand. I believe, that Karma Is a Bitch and God is the judge. If God will, they will get their befitted feedback.

Well said, yes I mostly ignore them. Just sometimes their hypocrisy cross every limit. So that times its hard to control emotion.
But yes you are probably right, we should ignore such controversial posts of munafiq snakes.
Allah will surely deal with the munafiqs I.believe. But sometimes we need to cut the head of snakes if it start spewing too much venoms.

 

[T-Rex]

If tomorrow BAL sees that they can no longer remain on power without cooperating with religious fundamentalists or even jamat, they won't hesitate for a second to make an alliance. It's politics bud.

This is what makes AL the most corrupt political party in BD. For power they can do absolutely anything but they blast others for having this corrupt attitude.

Having said THAT, I still consider bal to be comparatively more Liberal, progressive and less corrupt than other major political parties.

I have exactly the opposite view but I will defend your right to express your views and in return I expect the same from you and that is the essence of democracy.

 

[Centaur]

You're just adding fuel to the fire.

Ah missed your post so replying too late . I didn't misunderstood your post , but I have understood it very well.
I know your types very well. Listen @Ashes , I am not fueling the fire but you guys are doing it.
If we constantly start bashing your parents will you guys accept us or will welcome it as a part of our freedom ?
I said Muhammad (pbuh) is more beloved than our parent. So bashing him isn't blasphemy only, but direct war on Islam .

However if a group of peoples do murder in the name of Islam , then why the heck you can bash Islam instead of bashing them? There is no element of terrorism in Islam, so what if I claim that those terrorist are the paid agent of zionist aka anti islamic organization , then how can deny it ? Appearance is always deceiving and you guys are very much judgemental with those BS criminals who are doing terrorism in the name of Islam .
Before 9\11 there were no Islamic terrorism. Now in some years from where so called Islamic terrorism came?
All are the part of USA and EU arms business .
Let me explain in short.
First create terrorists , then find terrorist, and ask Muslim countries to declare war on terrorism , they will do.indeed because if they refuse ,there shall be a good reason to attack them like in order to establish democracy , look at Iraq, Libya , everything will be clear.
So Muslims have petro dollars, Western have weapons , and terrorist .
So Muslim countries must buy weapon and their pocket Wil be empty , and western pocket will.be full.
Isn't it a very nice business buddy, since they have veto power and NUK ?
So create terrorists, sell weapons to Muslim countries for war on terror , keep western economy strong. If Muslim countries refuse to co operate either attak them or spoil their mind by Shia sunni conflict, like Iran and Saudi are screwing each others.

If most of terrorists are not zionist propaganda/and product, then why ISIS don't attack Israel ?

 

[Centaur]

[The Qur'an not only ordered the killing of those who embraced Islam and afterwards decided to renegade, but also commanded the followers to fight all nations until they either believe in it, pay the Jizya or face death]:

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  "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued. Surat At-Tauba 9:29"
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  There are other Surats that specifically orders the killing of unfaithful people. So, BD becoming more Islamic means its people are becoming more fundamentalist as has been instructed 1500 years ago. Well, they are only following the instruction written in Holy Book. Why to criticize?
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  Only yesterday, an Ahmedia mosque was destroyed in Pakistan by the God-loving people there. We should praise all these acts and should also try to emulate these ourselves. BD Muslims are fearful of Qayamat and burning in Hell. So, they are proving their submission by doing only a few token acts of terrorism.

Before spreading propaganda, try to do some homework . Those verses are for war times only , so don't prove yourself ignorant.
And also war is the last resort for a muslim ,and they are not allowed to attack until they were being attacked first .

@Nilgiri , secular mufti @bluesky provided online reference from his deity , he quoted your post with their old trick , but here is the answer . Please read the article thoroughly.

 

[bluesky]

Before spreading propaganda, try to do some homework . Those verses are for war times only , so prove yourself ignorant.
And also war is the last resort for a muslim ,and they are not allowed to attack until they were being attacked first .

Now, a big Maulana is giving only his personal explanation, and if there are hundred Maulanas there will be hundred Fatwas. Do your own homework and tell me exactly which of the Hadith tells us that the Surat is only for war time. Why are you beating about the bush with something else? Are not you guys always tell others that the Holy Books are universal and true until and even after Qayamat?

What went went wrong now with you Mr. superstitious? Do not give your own explanation of the Surat I mentioned by talking about some others, but give us the true reference to establish your statement. Now, can you blame the Islamic Maulanas who destroyed a mosque in Pakistan? They were just following the Book. I am as true Muslim as they are, but you are a Pakka Munafiq? You are changing the meaning. You will certainly go to Hell, perhaps. no one has seen it though!!!

 

[Centaur]

Are not you guys always tell others that the Holy Books are universal and true until and even after Qayamat?

Hahaha now allama @bluesky is teaching us what is the meaning of Quran? Ahaha Ahaha Muslim nation should be grateful that we have such ( murtad) allama in this hard time.
Read previous post again. I have added that article to refute your propaganda.
I can add more Bengali articles too.
@bluesky

I am as true Muslim as they are, but you are a Pakka Munafiq? You are changing the meaning. You will certainly go to Hell, perhaps. no one has seen it though!!!

 

[Trango Towers]

@bluesky @Mage @Ashes @Tanveer666

All comments welcome.

I wish it was Islam......ask them the meaning of namaz and their Islam will end there

 

[Centaur]

Why a new article when the Surat is clear in its meaning? Or, do you want to revise/change it to suit yourself?

New article is to counter those ignorants and munafiqs who read Quran in native language and in English and jump to conclusion and start bashing Islam. First read the proper history and timeline of Quran then start argument.
There are tons of Islamic scholars who know how to counter peoples like you. Go and ask them .

Note that the terrorists are just a group of high level Jihadists who are literally following the religion

Yes zionist products. And you guys also don't know what is actually jihad , you all are either victims by the brain washing machine or the part of them.

 

[24 Hours]

Ah missed your post so replying too late . I didn't misunderstood your post , but I have understood it very well.
I know your types very well. Listen @Ashes , I am not fueling the fire but you guys are doing it.
If we constantly start bashing your parents will you guys accept us or will welcome it as a part of our freedom ?
I said Muhammad (pbuh) is more beloved than our parent. So bashing him isn't blasphemy only, but direct war on Islam .

I won't accept it but instead of violence I'm just going to bash your parents instead. The one who draws the first blood will be blamed as well as the beliefs that person holds. That's how it works. If you view it as a direct war on Islam than why should anyone respect your beliefs then? All it tells is that the violence is inherent.

However if a group of peoples do murder in the name of Islam , then why the heck you can bash Islam instead of bashing them? There is no element of terrorism in Islam, so what if I claim that those terrorist are the paid agent of zionist aka anti islamic organization , then how can deny it ? Appearance is always deceiving and you guys are very much judgemental with those BS criminals who are doing terrorism in the name of Islam .

That's because terrorists don't view themselves as terrorists. As they say one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. None of the ISIS fighters saw themselves as terrorists so it's an irrelevant statement.

Before 9\11 there were no Islamic terrorism. Now in some years from where so called Islamic terrorism came?

Actually 1979 with the USSR invasion of Afghanistan sounds like a good place to start. With foreign fighters joining in to kill communists. What is the 1993 World trade bombings then? If anything I would pin most of the blame on Sayyid Qutb.

Let me explain in short.
First create terrorists , then find terrorist, and ask Muslim countries to declare war on terrorism , they will do.indeed because if they refuse ,there shall be a good reason to attack them like in order to establish democracy , look at Iraq, Libya , everything will be clear.
So Muslims have petro dollars, Western have weapons , and terrorist .
So Muslim countries must buy weapon and their pocket Wil be emNpty , and western pocket will.be full.
Isn't it a very nice business buddy, since they have veto power and NUK ?

No. I agree taking out Saddam and Gaddafi was wrong. But this is way past discussion of blasphemy.

So create terrorists, sell weapons to Muslim countries for war on terror , keep western economy strong. If Muslim countries refuse to co operate either attak them or spoil their mind by Shia sunni conflict, like Iran and Saudi are screwing each others.

If most of terrorists are not zionist propaganda/and product, then why ISIS don't attack Israel ?

I don't know why you feel like deflecting to Israel as Judaism is very much similar to Islam. Both prone to terrorism and acts of violence. Forget the Palestinians, the Amalekites suffered even worse (assuming they existed). Assuming you read the Torah or Old Testament Bible, every man, women, and child of Amalek heritage were told to be killed by the Abrahamic God. Calling for the entire nation to be wiped out. This definitely reads like genocide. So no, Jews aren't any better. As many Jews will still use the term Amalekite to refer to their enemies.

 

[Centaur]

That's how it works. If you view it as a direct war on Islam than why should anyone respect your beliefs then?

Actually indirect war sorry mistakenly wrote direct war.
So in an indirect war Islam doesn't allow any violence.
Pen is against pen , so key board is against key board .
However if they cross limit then there should be blasphemy law, but no individuals can take any violent action.

 

[24 Hours]

Actually indirect war sorry mistakenly wrote direct war.
So in an indirect war Islam doesn't allow any violence.
Pen is against pen , so key board is against key board .

Then it shouldn't be a problem. If you're going to bash an Atheist verbally for bashing your religion verbally go ahead. You have my approval.