Babur Cruise Missile - Database

[regular]

Pakistan test fired Babur cruise missile today, which is a step closer to Navel version.

We are about ready with the Navel version of Babur.

Yes its the cruise missile launched through the Augusta B subz..... they were testing it through ddep under waters....and to tell U the truth I seen all these testing in my dream....and the next day I seen it on the newspaper....Alhamdolillah!!!....isn't it strange???

 

[Arsalan]

Yes its the cruise missile launched through the Augusta B subz..... they were testing it through ddep under waters....and to tell U the truth I seen all these testing in my dream....and the next day I seen it on the newspaper....Alhamdolillah!!!....isn't it strange???

It was a ground launch of the Army's version of Babur Land Attack Cruise missile!

We may be nearing the naval version but it was NOT THE NAVAL VERSION!
Hopefully, we will get it soon.

The establishment of Naval Strategic Force Command‎ points in this direction. Pakistan is willing and working to complete its Nuclear Triad and Land Attack Cruise missiles, able to be launched from naval assets will be an important component.

regards!

 

[Arsalan]

A future prospect for Pakistan's Cruise Missiles, UAV's and other guided systems!

Suparco set to get global navigation satellite system
KARACHI, Sept 25: Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (Suparco) is in the process of acquiring the global navigation satellite system (GNSS) in collaboration with China, which will give a boost to its satellite communication technology.

Read more at: Suparco set to get global navigation satellite system | DAWN.COM

 

[Safriz]

 

[Arsalan]

DEVELOPMENT IN SATELLITE NAVIGATION

GNSS to be functional by June 2013
ISLAMABAD, Oct 10 (APP): Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS) acquired by Pakistan Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO), with the assistance from China,will become functional by June 2013. GNSS is a set of navigation satellites orbiting around the earth and providing geo-spatial positioning service worldwide. The system allows a small electronic receiver to determine its location using time signals transmitted from these navigation satellites.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - GNSS to be functional by June 2013

 

[Armstrong]

Any new versions of Babur on the horizon ? Which is to say one with either greater ranges, speed or accuracy ?

 

[Arsalan]

Any new versions of Babur on the horizon ? Which is to say one with either greater ranges, speed or accuracy ?

It is reported that they are working on a Naval Version (that most probably will be a submarine launched missile).
No news on increasing range but may come in future. The current Speed and Accuracy are also good enough so no news about any changes in that as well.

 

[Bratva]

LACM Babur in it's current configuration is possible to use against moving targets or only for fixed and stationary targets?

I think current weakness of our LACM and ALCM is their target capability against moving targets.

 

[Nishan_101]

Many people are talking about future Naval Version of Babur Cruise missile. Where i personally was always of view that a naval version, whenever it comes will be a submarine launched version and not surface launched system. This was bases on the fact that out surface combatants are of light to medium class and not conventionally know for land attack roles.
Land attack cruise missiles suites with heavier frigates and even better with destroyers!

However, all said, here is an interesting comparison:

C-802 Anti-Ship Missiles
PN Surface Warship fleet carry C-802/803 in anti ship role. The Dimension of this missile are:
Weight 715 kg
Length 6.392 m
Diameter 36 cm

Babur Cruise Missile
Weight 1200Kg appx (payload >300 kg)
Length 6.25 m (7 m with booster)
Diameter 52 cm

Now considering that C-802 are usually carried in a quad-canister assembly where four missiles are carried like:

and the multi-tube cruise missile that we have been testing is a three tube assembly:

so may be we can replace the C-802 four missile assembly (weighing 4 x 715kg = 2860Kg appx) with a three missile assembly of Babur (1200 x 3 = 3600 Kg)
Just a case of MAY BE!! I don't see these being fired from C-802 like canisters. Will perhaps require heavier vessels with more displacement (at least in 4000 appx class) to incorporate a VLS system to fire Land Attack Cruise missile Babur from surface vessel.
So again, i personally think that the Naval version will be a submarine launched missile!

It will going to be fitted on the new F-22P Block-IIs and may be 7 of these in VLS form...

 

[Arsalan]

It will going to be fitted on the new F-22P Block-IIs and may be 7 of these in VLS form...

and where are the so called PN F-22p Block-II???
PLEASE do not speculate about things that are not even being discussed seriously in the military circles!!! We will talk about the numbers that the frigates will/can carry only once we are confirmed that we are going for these frigates!!

regards!

 

[Nishan_101]

and where are the so called PN F-22p Block-II???
PLEASE do not speculate about things that are not even being discussed seriously in the military circles!!! We will talk about the numbers that the frigates will/can carry only once we are confirmed that we are going for these frigates!!

regards!

Thank you for that. Brother, we have heard that PN will going to procure another batch of at least 4 F-22Ps that will have some latest modifications being available to PN from the market(Most probably Chinese). So I and other also consider that it will carry some Babur Naval Version that is supposed to be developed or in development.

 

[Arsalan]

Thank you for that. Brother, we have heard that PN will going to procure another batch of at least 4 F-22Ps that will have some latest modifications being available to PN from the market(Most probably Chinese). So I and other also consider that it will carry some Babur Naval Version that is supposed to be developed or in development.

Thanks for understanding but dear it was something that we just HEARD. Alongside these modified F-22 rumor was a report of PN going for 6 Qing Class Submarines. However, nothing have happened, in fact nothing have even been inked in this regard.
By the looks of it, it seem that that deal have gone cold, at least for now. We can only say what these systems will carry and in what numbers only once these systems are confirmed in first place.
Also the reported underdevelopment naval version of the cruise missile is said to be a submarine launch missile.

Best regards!

 

[GEMINI]

I have a question, is it possible to use an anti radiation seeker for the terminal phase? Just thinking of carrying SEAD missions using Babur. or may be even in the anti shipping role.

 

[Arsalan]

I have a question, is it possible to use an anti radiation seeker for the terminal phase? Just thinking of carrying SEAD missions using Babur. or may be even in the anti shipping role.

Technically, Yes!
Babur is a highly maneuverable cruise missile, when fitted with a radiation seekers in nose, can act as SEAD missile. Logically, we might never see this happening as we have other weapon systems to do the SEAD job!

 

[GEMINI]

Technically, Yes!
Babur is a highly maneuverable cruise missile, when fitted with a radiation seekers in nose, can act as SEAD missile. Logically, we might never see this happening as we have other weapon systems to do the SEAD job!

Well thanks for the reply. The only advantage i was thinking of with this is higher range and payload. You did not say anything regarding the anti shipping role. Is not it possible to use the same seeker to lock on to a ship's radar in terminal phase.