Avoid cow slaughter in larger interest, Ulema tells Muslims

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deoband is one of the real shit on earth

in India save secularism
in Pakistan want Islamic law

they are worse creatures alive on earth

You shouldnt abuse Indian deobandi based on the action of Pakistani deobandis.....
If the Indian ones are vouching for secularism then its a good thing

 

[Osiris]

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Every year, hundreds of bulls and bullocks are brought to the city for sacrifice on Eid day. Such animals are in huge demand because seven people can have share in each. At Rs.2,500 to Rs.2,800 each share, this works out more economical than Rs.6,000 to Rs.7,000 for a goat or sheep.

We in Pakistan also sacrifice cows. I wish my cousins in Lucknow had the same freedom. I believe they may cut up a cow anyway but the laws are smothering muslims now more than ever. BJP is clearly our enemy.

Why do Muslims protest, when french draw caricatures of Muhammad ? Why demand respect , whence you can't give respect to religious sentiments of other's?

Sacrificing a sheep or goat will not make any difference to Muslim except a minute a financial one. But sacrificing cow surely will hurt religious sensibilities of hindus, who consider cows as sacred animals.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Why do Muslims protest, when french draw caricatures of Muhammad ? Why demand respect , whence you can't give respect to religious sentiments of other's?

Sacrificing a sheep or goat will not make any difference to Muslim except a minute a financial one. But sacrificing cow surely will hurt religious sensibilities of hindus, who consider cows as sacred animals.

How non Hindus eating beef is insult to Hinduism ? Would you be happy if Muslims demand ban of wine, Pork and every other thing which they considered as wrong according to their religious beliefs? would you stop drinking wine for giving respect to Islam?

Cow is holy for you because of your religion and you are free to be vegetarian
Islam allow eating beef so Muslims should also be free to eat it. They should eat according to Islamic dietary practices not Brahman

You both should be free to live according to your religious beliefs without dictating the choices and preferences of those belong to different religion. State(if claiming secular) should not ban cow slaughter simply because it is banned in Hinduism just like it has no right to ban idol worship simply because its major sin in Christianity/Islam .

 

[graphican]

There is no "larger interest" clause in Islam written to appease non-Muslims. You follow it or you don't and there is no half following.

 

[Osiris]

How non Hindus eating beef is insult to Hinduism ? Would you be happy if Muslims demand ban of wine, Pork and every other thing which they considered as wrong according to their religious beliefs? would you stop drinking wine for giving respect to Islam?

Cow is holy for you because of your religion and you are free to be vegetarian
Islam allow eating beef so Muslims should also be free to eat it. They should eat according to Islamic dietary practices not Brahman

You both should be free to live according to your religious beliefs without dictating the choices and preferences of those belong to different religion. State(if claiming secular) should not ban cow slaughter simply because it is banned in Hinduism just like it has no right to ban idol worship simply because its major sin in Christianity/Islam .

Here let me present your line argument back to you, but with few variables changed.

How can non Muslims drawing Muhammad in their own homes, in their own country be offensive to Muslims? If Muslims are banned from drawing Muhammad then they shouldn't, why stop others from doing it.

Cow is considered sacred in Hindu religion. If Muslims want slaughter cow, by all means they can do it. But then give up double standards.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Here let me present your line argument back to you, but with few variables changed.

How can non Muslims drawing Muhammad in their own homes, in their own country be offensive to Muslims? If Muslims are banned from drawing Muhammad then they shouldn't, why stop others from doing it.

Cow is considered sacred in Hindu religion. If Muslims want slaughter cow, by all means they can do it. But then give up double standards.

lol are you really that naive when you comparing eating choice of some individual with insulting and mocking Prophet of a religion? We dont have problem with non Muslim eating pork which is forbidden for Muslims . Non Hindus dont eat beef to insult Hindu deities or holy figures . So what next you will expect from Muslims/Christians in India? to give up all meat because its offensive for Hindu vegetarians. Stop expecting from others to follow what your religion preach and try to acknowledge the differences among people when it come to food habit

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Scared Ulema

 

[Soulspeek]

This whole mass scale slaughter of animals is just senseless.

First of all Prophet Ibrahim agreed to slaughter his own son on the command of God. He passed his test as he was ready to sacrifice his own son for the will of God. God gave him a Dumba (mountain Goat) instead to slaughter. That is the story.

What I fail to understand is why people fail to understand the real motive behind the story! The moral of the story was to keep the order of your God above all things. What Muslims are doing is similar to what Christians did with Christmas... i.e. commercialized it.

What is the benefit of buying a goat, camel, cattle from market and sacrificing it? What is the gain? Nothing!!

During the Eid, animal prices sky rocket. There is slaughter of animals all over the world on a humungous scale. There is blood and gore everywhere. Does Allah want this?

Look at animals, even carnivores.... they eat only when they are hungry. We humans eat even when we are not hungry. During eid, there is surplus of meat everywhere. People become glutton and start eating qurbani meat for days. They fart. they get ill

The solution to meat-eater of India is very simple.

There is virtually no issue with Poultry, Eggs, Fish, Goat, Lamb, Carabeef.

Those people who think that Beef ban is going to effect their source of cheap protien must realize that buff-beef is already in market and there is not religious issue with it.

Eating cow is not a religious necessity in Islam. Let the Islamic countries do it. India is a secular Hindu majority country. We can at least respect their love for Cow which they consider holy.

I know one thing for sure, once cows are taken out of equation, there wont be too much to fight between Hindus and Muslims. Be secular, be accommodating, be Indian.

 

[Osiris]

lol are you really that naive when you comparing eating choice of some individual with insulting and mocking Prophet of a religion? We dont have problem with non Muslim eating pork which is forbidden for Muslims . Non Hindus dont eat beef to insult Hindu deities or holy figures . So what next you will expect from Muslims/Christians in India? to give up all meat because its offensive for Hindu vegetarians. Stop expecting from others to follow what your religion preach and try to acknowledge the differences among people when it come to food habit

I never said anything about insulting your prophet..were I to post a perfectly innocent picture of Muhammad, will that be ok?

Hindus don't eat beef because cows are considered sacred in Hinduism..just how your prophet is considered sacred in your religion.

Any one insulting, what's sacred to you gets yours blood to a boil, and you start killing people. Atleast Hinduism hasn't devolved that level yet, is so far a very tolerant and accepting religion.

There is no prohibition on killing any other animal in Hinduism. Being a vegetarian is a choice and not a compulsion in Hinduism

You can slaughter all the cows, you want to, even though you don't need to. but then these double standards need to go, as you are not sensible enough to sensitivities of other religions, expect other people to be the same with you.

This is the point these Ulemas are trying to make, but having grown up in puritanically communal society, you will never understand it.

 

[ranjeet]

Now thats an idea,

But on the other hand, why would someone want to name a sacrificial animal "Modi"?

That would make that animal "haram" to slaughter and will kill the purpose of sacrifice, so hindustani78 has a point.

Maybe a sign of protest? Just like many slaughtered a cow in Kashmir to protests the beef ban. Anyway I didn't knew about the "haram" part. Thank you to both of you. @Hindustani78

 

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Avoid cow slaughter in larger interest, Ulema tells Muslims
Hyderabad, Sep 18, 2015 (IANS)


With the ban on beef in some states and the upcoming Eid-ul-Azha triggering a fierce debate on cow slaughter across the country, a group of Islamic scholars in southern India has appealed to Muslims to avoid sacrificing cows, bulls and bullocks in the community's larger interest.

The scholars have advised Muslims to show pragmatism in the prevailing situation and instead opt for alternate animals permitted by the Sharia to ensure that peace is maintained and there are no impediments in their larger duty of "dawat-e-deen" of introducing Islam to non-Muslims.

Backed by all schools of thought, the group has taken up the campaign through social media, meetings, pamphlets and Friday sermons in mosques in different states of southern India.

"Our message is that Muslims should not take law in their hands but desist from sacrificing cow, bulls and bullocks for maintaining peace. This will also help in introducing Islam to others," Syed Hussain Madani, an Islamic scholar heading the campaign, told IANS.

The scholar has suggested that the community should avoid sacrificing cows to protect life and property. People trading in cows, bulls and bullocks have been suffering loss of life and property and sometimes ending up harming others.

Madani quoted 'Hadith', or the sayings of Prophet Muhammad, that "There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm."

Noting that the Prophet sacrificed two sheep on Eid-ul-Azha, he said: "Since the Prophet Muhammad is the best model for us, we should follow him. Sacrificing cow is allowed but it is not 'afzal' (preferable)," he said.

Every year, hundreds of bulls and bullocks are brought to the city for sacrifice on Eid day. Such animals are in huge demand because seven people can have share in each. At Rs.2,500 to Rs.2,800 each share, this works out more economical than Rs.6,000 to Rs.7,000 for a goat or sheep.

The scholars pointed out that sacrificing per se is not "farz" (obligation) but "sunnat" (practice of the Prophet). "Allah doesn't burden more than one can bear. There is ample room to avoid this (sacrifice of cow) in the prevailing situation when there are legal restrictions and communal disharmony over the issue," said Madani.

As many families take a share in such animals to distribute meat among the poor, Madani said that the poor may be helped in many other ways.

The ulema, while noting that slaughter of cow, bulls and bullocks are linked to the livelihood of a group, argue that the interest of the entire community should get priority.

"Prevention of means of 'fasad' (mischief) is better than the benefits we may get from certain things," said Madani.

The scholars are also of the opinion that the misconceptions about cow slaughter and the misinformation spread by some elements affects "Dawate-e-deen" and since this is an obligatory duty of every Muslim, it should get priority over sacrificing cow, bulls or bullocks.

"Some miscreants themselves sell cows and strengthen their economy but take legal action against those who buy cows and sometimes even kill the buyers. Desisting from the sacrifice of such animals will deny them an opportunity to indulge in mischief," added Madani.

Well-known personalities like Mohammed Abdul Raheem Qureshi, president of the Majlis-e-Tameer-e-Millat and assistant secretary of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board, Moulana Khalid Saifullah Rahmani, Moulana Aneesur Rehman Azmi of Chennai, Moulana Mufti Nassem Ahmed Ashrafi, and Moulana Mufti Mahboob Shareef Nizami are backing the initiative.

The appeal also has the backing of Muslim political leaders and legal experts. It also made reference to a suggestion by some political leaders that giving up eating of beef for a couple of years will show its impact on the economy and those opposing it will be forced to amend the legislation.

I think if Cows and Buffaloes are allowed to be crossed into Pakistan then it would be great as Pakistan can use it for themselves and also to export it to Afghanistan, IRAN and ex-soviet countries.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Why ? that is their right. You have to appreciate their decision in favour of gow raksha.

VHP too invited AR Rehman back into Hinduism which was their right.

What did AR Rehman say? Too bad he did not come back, I guess.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Scared Ulema

Not scared but using political situation to get favor from Govt same Ulema (Deobandi) in Pakistan using different tactics and doctrine in Pakistan.

 

[krakatoa]

deoband is one of the real shit on earth

in India save secularism
in Pakistan want Islamic law

they are worse creatures alive on earth

we must not use such words for any one when it comes to religion. not even non muslims. to make it clear i dont belong to deoband but they will reply in the same manner and this wont be good.

 

[Prajapati]

What did AR Rehman say? Too bad he did not come back, I guess.

What Rehman said is irrelevant to the issue. But if I am to guess he would ask where the VHP was when he was starving child and a nobody.