Attacker stabs two soldiers outside Jewish community center in Nice, France

[Menace2Society]

I hate colonialism as much as any other sane person does. That still however doesn't justify the conduct of these people

Of course I am not justifying these acts. But to request my sympathy after going out your way to humiliate others. Sorry they will get none.

What if India and Pakistan had colonized Europe and stole everything. Lets see how they would have reacted. I gaurantee you there would have been never ending war.

White Europeans must understand you cannot steal the ingredients of the pie, bake it then eat it by yourself. Life is simply not this easy.

Ethnics aren't just here to take, they contribute by jobs, doctors,engineers etc. The commonwealth helped Britain back up on its feet after WW2 by starting businesses in the country.

But you get some of these people with self entitlement issues who see no evil, hear no evil.

 

[Aepsilons]

You couldn't exterminate the Balkanites even if you wanted,let's be serious.It was not an act of kindness but just good strategy: collect taxes,robb them but let them be to their faith.A full scale rebellion would have emerged if you tried extermination tactics.

Two words: Black Hand.

It was the Balkans that ignited the 1st World War. The result in trying to undermine the rights and issues there resulted in the dissintegration of 4 great empires: a) Austrian-Hungarian Empire, b) German Empire, and to an extent c) Russian Empire (well , a revolution happened afterwards) and 5) The Ottoman Empire.


The point is this: Balkans are a strategic centerpiece. Many empires have been created and broken over this 'region'.

 

[flamer84]

There were no human rights at the time. That is why the Europeans did slavery and exterminated non-white people. Turks had the best army during a period. When Turks acted European and exterminated Romanian population. There was nobody to challenge us. Anyway, luckily my people's never did such a thing. The Europeans who have such a history are now expecting us to pay money to them for not exterminating them, putting them into slavery, selling them to the higest bidder like Europeans did to non-whites.

But we do not expect anything.If you wouldn't have comprehension problems you would have noticed that i was sarcastic at the others complaining about past grievances.For us,the past is the past,move on and build on the present and the future.

 

[atatwolf]

But we do not expect anything.If you wouldn't have comprehension skills you would have noticed that i was sarcastic at the others complaining about past grievances.For us,the past is the past,move on and build on the present and the future.

I was also initially sarcastic about your word choice "pillaging". If we really did pillaging there wouldn't be Romanian identity left after so many centuries.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Of course I am not justifying these acts. But to request my sympathy after going out your way to humiliate others. Sorry they will get none.

What if India and Pakistan had colonized Europe and stole everything. Lets see how they would have reacted. I gaurantee you there would have been never ending war.

White Europeans must understand you cannot steal the ingredients of the pie, bake it then eat it by yourself. Life is simply not this easy.

Ethnics aren't just here to take, they contribute by jobs, doctors,engineers etc. The commonwealth helped Britain back up on its feet after WW2 by starting businesses in the country.

But you get some of these people with self entitlement issues who see no evil, hear no evil.

Yes, but that is a different issue. These are ISIS / Al Qeada brainwashed morons who are attacking their country for some misled religious ideals and not because they awoke one morning and started hating France for colonizing their country of birth. We in the sub-continent decided that blaming the colonialists for all our mishaps would simply whitewash the ineffeciency of our own governments. We can't bring colonialism into a scenario where people who are attempting to mis-use Islam as a banner for their own issues go around causing mayhem in a state which is catering for their needs and affording them more rights than that which they would enjoy in their countries of origin

 

[flamer84]

I was also initiate sarcastic about your word choice "pillaging". If we really did pillaging there wouldn't be Romanian identity left after so many centuries.

Is there no Algerian identity after the French "pillaged" Algeria ?

 

[Aepsilons]

Is there no Algerian identity after the French "pillaged" Algeria ?

Something about France "captivates" ! I've some friends who want to move there and live there because of the Romanticism associated with life in Paris. lol.

City of Love, City of Lights, French Culture, French Cuisine,..et al.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Not only that, the nature of Christian Orthodoxy is very different from Ecclesia Romana (Roman Catholic Church), it is not easy to draw an Orthodox Christian away from his religion. We are a very "hardy" flock. Being the oldest denomination in all Christendom --- a family of over 2.3 Billion.

I read somewhere that unlike Catholicism Eastern Orthodox Church was growing. I didn't know you belong to the orthodox Church.

 

[atatwolf]

Is there no Algerian identity after the French "pillaged" Algeria ?

Only 100 years :') It was also different time period.

 

[sandesh kumar]

The Ottomans like other Superpowers did not care about religion as long as they stayed peaceful. They only cared about land and wealth like any other imperialists. Just like the Brits looted India and turned India into Africa.

dont bring India in to this. you have nothing to do with us or our history.

 

[Jaanbaz]

dont bring India in to this. you have nothing to do with us or our history.

The Brits looted the Indian subcontinent, not specifically talking about your modern day fake state which the Brits gifted you.

I agree we(Pakistanis) have nothing to do with you, we are the proud descendants of Indus Valley Civilisation.

 

[flamer84]

Only 100 years :') It was also different time period.

Come on dude,just as you've said it about Romania,when you don't rise up to certain standards it's best to look in the mirror and ask questions instead of blaiming others.I certainly do it.

 

[Aepsilons]

I read somewhere that unlike Catholicism Eastern Orthodox Church was growing. I didn't know you belong to the orthodox Church.

Christian Orthodoxy --- is literally the image of the Roman Catholic Church prior tot he 1st Lateran Council an subsequent liturgical reformations. If you go to an Orthodox Church, at the center, behind the tabernacle, is what we call the Iconostasis -- its where the Priest enters and directs and leads the prayers to. The same was similar in the Catholica Ecclesiae in earlier days. Liturgically speaking and doctrinally speaking, there really is not much difference between the two , as the Catholic Church's Pope is considered an equal Bishop amongst Orthodox Patriarchs.

Orthodoxy is not just centered in Balkans and Eastern Europe, there is a growing presence in Asia, North America and Latin America.

And yes, I am Christian Orthodox, there's quite a number of us in Japan.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

The Brits looted the Indian subcontinent, not specifically talking about your modern day fake state which the Brits gifted you.

I agree we(Pakistanis) have nothing to do with you, we are the proud descendants of Indus Valley Civilisation.

Now, now Jaanbaz, in responding to that troll did you really have to troll yourself to that level

 

[Aepsilons]

Yes, but that is a different issue. These are ISIS / Al Qeada brainwashed morons who are attacking their country for some misled religious ideals and not because they awoke one morning and started hating France for colonizing their country of birth. We in the sub-continent decided that blaming the colonialists for all our mishaps would simply whitewash the ineffeciency of our own governments. We can't bring colonialism into a scenario where people who are attempting to mis-use Islam as a banner for their own issues go around causing mayhem in a state which is catering for their needs and affording them more rights than that which they would enjoy in their countries of origin

Hi,

I understand and empathize with nations post-colonialism. There, indeed, were crimes committed during the age of colonialism, but we , as students of history, have to accept that this was a real and actual time epoch in human civilization. It was a global phenomena -- it existed, it affected policies, populations, economies.

When colonialism ended, it presented nations with the opportunity to become masters of their own destiny, and to seize the independence that was afforded them. Nations, like organic institutions, experience growing pains and are subjected to trial and errors -- much like older nations who took part in the colonial epoch.

We have to be progressive minded and find transformational change to our current problems. Solution-based direction is what makes and enables nations to succeed. A retrograde-mentality does nothing , laying blame on the past mistakes of others solves nothing nor does it mitigate the problems before one's own feet.

Thanks.