Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

[T-Faz]

you do have proof of "extremists within the ranks" part, right?

“Security agencies have been suggesting such measures from time to time in the past in view of the growing terrorism. It has happened in the past that junior officials of the Pakistan Air Force got one-year-long leave on the pretext of accompanying the preaching groups, but when they were later arrested, it transpired that they had in fact been training with different militant groups,” a senior security officer told The News on condition of anonymity.

Tableeghi Jamaats to be banned from Cantts, defence areas

“They are definitely some people suspected of involvement from within, but we’re still investigating exactly who was behind it,” he said.

“From a janitor to an officer at the base, everyone is a suspect at this point,” he said.

He said that previously there have been cases when clerics of local mosques at naval premises were found to be involved in ‘anti-state’ activities.

Navy officers suspect inside job in PNS Mehran – The Express Tribune

Deputy Chief of Air Staff for Operations Air Vice Marshal Khalid Chaudhry as saying that the airmen, most of whom came from rural villages, were being radicalised by extremist clerics.

The cable quotes Chaudhry as saying, “You can’t imagine what a hard time we have trying to get them to trim their beards.”

US fears:

Keep living in denial.

 

[hembo]

Arrested helper of militants had warned of PNS Mehran attack
Umar Cheema
Thursday, May 26, 2011

ISLAMABAD: A navy commando of Hakimulah Mehsud’s tribe posted at the PNS Mehran, who was arrested in January this year for his links with the Taliban and al-Qaeda affiliates, had then disclosed about the impending attack on the naval base.

He had also warned that oil depots and power grid stations were also on the hit list of the militants. An official privy to the details said the marine commando who was picked up following his involvement in suspicious activities, had informed about the plan of attack on PNS Mehran. He also predicted attacks on other naval installations.

No serious measures were taken to avert attack on this naval base. Pakistan Navy’s Directorate of Public Relations offered no comment when contacted for its version.According to the official source, the arrested individual belongs to South Waziristan agency and is of Mehsud tribe, which has produced Taliban leaders like Baitullah Mehsud, Qari Hussain, and Hakimullah Mehsud who have rocked Pakistan through bombing and attacks on strategically important posts.

Incidentally, the PNS Mehran attack has also been claimed by TTP to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda founder.

Besides attack on the PNS Mehran, credible intelligence was also available on the impending attack on GHQ six months before it was carried out but the army sat over the info.

The negligence on part of the intelligence community and security czars has encouraged the militants who have named the intelligence agencies as “sheep”. Other personnel of the armed services are dubbed as ‘goats’ by the militants, according to the communication record obtained through a USB flash drive and deciphered by the experts. The flash drive was recovered from the driver of an explosive-laden truck intercepted in Dera Ghazi Khan in April 2009, exactly six months before the GHQ attack.

The flash drive carried instructions for TTP affiliates in Punjab and elsewhere. While it advised the militants in Southern Punjab to go into hiding amid reports of possible crackdown, the flash drive also contained a blue print of attack on GHQ. It used the coded language of ‘sheep’ and ‘goats’. Upon deciphering these code words, it was found out that intelligence sleuths were dubbed as sheep and the armed forces personnel as goats.

 

[nwmalik]

it is time when instead of defence of our assets we should go on the offensive. Targets should be identified and taken out.
In the last 10 years we donot seem to have done much offensive action

 

[Markus]

it is time when instead of defence of our assets we should go on the offensive. Targets should be identified and taken out.
In the last 10 years we donot seem to have done much offensive action

On your West OR on your East ?

 

[Comet]

Tableeghi Jamaats to be banned from Cantts, defence areas



Navy officers suspect inside job in PNS Mehran – The Express Tribune



US fears:

Keep living in denial.

That is your proof?

 

[T-Faz]

That is your proof?

No, the tooth fairy told me that it was the Zionist Hinjews trained by aliens from outer space.

 

[DV RULES]

PN Blinded until December 2012.

LAHORE: The Pakistan Navy stands partially blinded till December this year after the destruction of two Orions (P-3C) at the PNS Mehran base in Karachi on Sunday night, The News has learnt.

Sources in the Pakistan Navy revealed the defenders of seas’ capability to counter any threat from the sea had virtually come down to around 20 percent for the time being with three old Orions stationed in the US for routine repairs, check-up and upgrade. The Navy now has one Orion, a Fokker (upgraded with the required gadget for surveillance) and a Gulfstream jet (upgraded for the purpose). These three stations are not enough to guard the maritime frontiers of the country. The first of the three Orions sent for maintenance is expected to return in December this year. The second and the third Orion are expected to resume service in June and December next year.

With its 120 nautical-mile (222.24 km) radar and diverse detect and destroy capability, this $36 million aircraft is considered the backbone of Pakistan Navy. Apart from diverse surveillance capability, this aircraft has a broader envelope with the prowess to search and destroy all sea targets in its combat radius (18 hours non-stop flight with an onboard radar, which can detect the target at 360 degrees up to 222.24 kms) with its payload of depth chargers, Harpoon Missiles and Mak-46 torpedoes. In addition to this, these aircraft also assist in indirect or alternate attacks from other sea and air platforms with the help of its sophisticated target detection capability, which helps in searching and locking multiple targets in the sea as well as in the air.

Fatman17

What you think Pakistan can get 3 or required P-3c on emergency bases till December 2012 from countries using P-3C? While Japan has more than 80 P-3C. Or Pakistan can lease them from USA on urgent bases?

 

[DV RULES]

It wasn't the Americans as you are trying to hint here, there is no point in speculating and blaming others without any proof what so ever.

The Americans and other foreigners are kept under constant surveillance.

It was the extremists within the ranks who did it, that should be clear to all and one.

In simple you want treatment of patient
but we need to kill disease.

 

[Devil Soul]

Attackers were in contact with commander
Updated 45 minutes ago
KARACHI: The PNS Mehran attackers who stormed the naval air base Sunday night were in contact with their commander via high-tech wireless system, Geo News correspondent Afzal Nadeem Dogar reported.

An inquiry committee, headed by Rear Admiral Tehsinullah Khan, was investigating the terrorist attack. It included representatives from Pakistan Air Force, police, naval intelligence and Rangers.

After reports of some inside help, scope of the probe has been widened and all personnel of Pakistan Navy deployed at the base have been included in the investigations.
Attackers were in contact with commander

 

[T-Faz]

Attackers were in contact with commander

Updated 45 minutes ago

KARACHI: The PNS Mehran attackers who stormed the naval air base Sunday night were in contact with their commander via high-tech wireless system, Geo News correspondent Afzal Nadeem Dogar reported.

An inquiry committee, headed by Rear Admiral Tehsinullah Khan, was investigating the terrorist attack. It included representatives from Pakistan Air Force, police, naval intelligence and Rangers.

After reports of some inside help, scope of the probe has been widened and all personnel of Pakistan Navy deployed at the base have been included in the investigations.

Attackers were in contact with commander

Here we go, inside job all the way.

Now where are all those theorists with their outwardly claims.

 

[monitor]

Attackers were in contact with commander
Updated 45 minutes ago
KARACHI: The PNS Mehran attackers who stormed the naval air base Sunday night were in contact with their commander via high-tech wireless system, Geo News correspondent Afzal Nadeem Dogar reported.

An inquiry committee, headed by Rear Admiral Tehsinullah Khan, was investigating the terrorist attack. It included representatives from Pakistan Air Force, police, naval intelligence and Rangers.

After reports of some inside help, scope of the probe has been widened and all personnel of Pakistan Navy deployed at the base have been included in the investigations.
Attackers were in contact with commander

so what the benefit they expect by helping this terrorist ? it will be little cruel but yet should we consider that they thought by allowing it the attention from the bin laden demise in Pakistan will fade away and the world will realized that Pakistan it self is in the target of extremist, not a breeding ground for extremism ?

 

[DV RULES]

Here we go, inside job all the way.

Now where are those theorists with their outwardly claims.

T-FAZ

Look, at this moment it is obvious for you that without inside help this couldn't be possible..... yes? Ok, in an another news at was written that maps of location were found (no specification that they were electronic, satellite imagery maps, hybrid, plan or etc) from terrorists so we have now two theories,
1. Inside map or detail provider.
2. Satellite based maps.

So someone provided whole setup with complete details and someone supported them from extrimists and there is someone who stands behind these extremists so why so quickly jumped over conclusion?
Why P-3 ORION are attacked?
Why they want to attack Chinese or Americans there?
If we assume that they were extremists then according to plannings they usually adopt, why they concentrated on hangers rather than attack in museum (at that moment there were lot of visitors in museum)?
So these are facts which forced to think that this attack was a very very sophisticated act against strategic installations in mask of TTP or AL-Q.
We are not blaming without any prove but we must not to ignore all these points & end face of this rope has to be taken out from bag.
So more surprising facts will be came along investigation is continued.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Well then these extremists or whatever you call them have to be found and punished...

and more importantly... our entire conduct around the WOT has to change... the implications of such a thing are very very bad... This is today, what tomorrow? Open rebellion? ...and shame on those who attack their own people in the name of Islam... whatever happened to restrain, patience, being just even when others wrong you?? Is nt that the teachings of Islam?

and in all of this the fools have weakened Pakistan and strengthened our enemies....

I would still not let go of the Americans so easily... I would go after those who are monitoring the Americans as well...

and if our military does not learn from this experience then they should fear the day when ordinary people start celebrating events like this to see their own Army humiliated... This will happen I warn you all until we separate ourselves from the parasite called America...

MBQ:

And who will monitor those who are monitoring the Americans???? When in doubt check the motive. Who benefits from this --- certainly not the Americans (we would like to wish otherwise). They already are beyond the P3C stage with their Nuclear capable Hunter killer subs and electronic counter measures developed to counter such type of patrol aircrafts.

BTW I sense a change in your stance these days after the Mehran incident or am I mistaken?

 

[hembo]

Guys, how credible is this piece:

Arrested helper of militants had warned of PNS Mehran attack
Umar Cheema
Thursday, May 26, 2011

ISLAMABAD: A navy commando of Hakimulah Mehsud’s tribe posted at the PNS Mehran, who was arrested in January this year for his links with the Taliban and al-Qaeda affiliates, had then disclosed about the impending attack on the naval base.

He had also warned that oil depots and power grid stations were also on the hit list of the militants. An official privy to the details said the marine commando who was picked up following his involvement in suspicious activities, had informed about the plan of attack on PNS Mehran. He also predicted attacks on other naval installations.

No serious measures were taken to avert attack on this naval base. Pakistan Navy’s Directorate of Public Relations offered no comment when contacted for its version.According to the official source, the arrested individual belongs to South Waziristan agency and is of Mehsud tribe, which has produced Taliban leaders like Baitullah Mehsud, Qari Hussain, and Hakimullah Mehsud who have rocked Pakistan through bombing and attacks on strategically important posts.

Incidentally, the PNS Mehran attack has also been claimed by TTP to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda founder.

Besides attack on the PNS Mehran, credible intelligence was also available on the impending attack on GHQ six months before it was carried out but the army sat over the info.

The negligence on part of the intelligence community and security czars has encouraged the militants who have named the intelligence agencies as “sheep”. Other personnel of the armed services are dubbed as ‘goats’ by the militants, according to the communication record obtained through a USB flash drive and deciphered by the experts. The flash drive was recovered from the driver of an explosive-laden truck intercepted in Dera Ghazi Khan in April 2009, exactly six months before the GHQ attack.

The flash drive carried instructions for TTP affiliates in Punjab and elsewhere. While it advised the militants in Southern Punjab to go into hiding amid reports of possible crackdown, the flash drive also contained a blue print of attack on GHQ. It used the coded language of ‘sheep’ and ‘goats’. Upon deciphering these code words, it was found out that intelligence sleuths were dubbed as sheep and the armed forces personnel as goats.

 

[iPhone]

Here we go, inside job all the way.

Now where are all those theorists with their outwardly claims.

I don't think its anything to be happy about. The way you just jumped out of your seat in celebration. Show some maturity, moderator. This isn't a competition between team anti army vs. pro army. This is about Pakistan.