Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Fieldmarshal]

the question is not if it was Substantial or not! the question is WILL SWEDEN help us repair and replinish our losses??? if not then truly the terrorists or should i say traitors have succeded in their mission remarkably!

Sweden will help with the ones that can be helped but even they are not miracle workers.

 

[Dazzler]

as per the contract, they are bound to provide after sale support and maintain the whole system no matter how substantial the damage is, it is still accidental. If not repairable, then attrition will occur just like in case of 2 P3C Orions.

 

[Viper0011.]

the question is not if it was Substantial or not! the question is WILL SWEDEN help us repair and replinish our losses??? if not then truly the terrorists or should i say traitors have succeded in their mission remarkably!

Yes, the Swedes will help to fix it. They are bound by a contract between the countries so they can't run away from it.

I mentioned earlier in my posts. The terrorists succeeded in the mission (at least partially), they knocked out 1 AWACS and if they weren't a little delayed, they would've caught the other one on the tarmac and they would've knocked that out too. Luckily, the scheduled got delayed due to ONE hero soldier and the tower stopped the other AWACS from landing. Otherwise, it would've been two damaged vs. just one

 

[rohailmalhi]

as per the contract, they are bound to provide after sale support and maintain the whole system no matter how substantial the damage is, it is still accidental. If not repairable, then attrition will occur just like in case of 2 P3C Orions.

Means that Pakistan didnt pay for the new PC3s ??????????? It got them for free in place of destroyed P3C's.

 

[Dazzler]

Means that Pakistan didnt pay for the new PC3s ??????????? It got them for free in place of destroyed P3C's.

Since i do not know the dynamics of actual contract so i cannot comment whether Swedes can charge for the repairing services or not. The contract is not a small one, rather, this AWACS (Saab Horizon) system has been marketed globally in an Airshow including UAE and Thailand has also short listed it so they have to fulfil the contract as per agreement for more than one reasons, second reason being those probable customers having a close eye on contract fulfilment.

 

[rohailmalhi]

Since i do not know the dynamics of actual contract so i cannot comment whether Swedes can charge for the repairing services or not. The contract is not a small one, rather, this AWACS (Saab Horizon) system has been marketed globally in an Airshow including UAE and Thailand has also short listed it so they have to fulfil the contract as per agreement for more than one reasons, second reason being those probable customers having a close eye on contract fulfilment.

I was actually asking about 2 new P3c's Pakistan got.

PS: I know as few people are confused here that sweds will not help Pakistan out , it will be a mess of them as their defense industry is trying to survive.How are they suppose to gain trust from new customers if they are not going to support their old customers ?

 

[Dazzler]

I was actually asking about 2 new P3c's Pakistan got.

As per my info, we got them for free.

 

[Najam Khan]

Pakistani T.V and print media are counting two losses of Saab-2000 in the attack.This photo released by APP on August 17 shows an unhurt Saab-2000 in background.

2 out of the 4 Saab AEW&C aircraft were stationed in the base at the time of attack. Also, there is "NO" news on internet or SAAB/PAF press release confirming the delivery of last 4th aircraft to PAF.

I would leave the remaining part of puzzle for you guys...

 

[TaimiKhan]

Pakistani T.V and print media are counting two losses of Saab-2000 in the attack.This photo released by APP on August 17 shows an unhurt Saab-2000 in background.

2 out of the 4 Saab AEW&C aircraft were stationed in the base at the time of attack. Also, there is "NO" news on internet or SAAB/PAF press release confirming the delivery of last 4th aircraft to PAF.

I would leave the remaining part of puzzle for you guys...

Look at the faces of the airmen & officers, do they give a look of men who have lost one of their prized platform, don't think so.

 

[fatman17]

As per my info, we got them for free.

yes but paid for the upgrades

 

[Roybot]

As per my info, we got them for free.

yes but paid for the upgrades

So I guess that rules out the speculations that somehow America was involved in these attacks? Cause if they really wanted to destroy these planes why would they replace them with freebies.

 

[TaimiKhan]

So I guess that rules out the speculations that somehow America was involved in these attacks? Cause if they really wanted to destroy these planes why would they replace them with freebies.

The sane members would not be commenting that America was behind the attack as destroying such planes don't cause them any good, as incase of any confrontation, they can easily take them down.

The blaming on US is for other reasons and indirectly attributed to destruction of these planes.

 

[Dazzler]

So I guess that rules out the speculations that somehow America was involved in these attacks? Cause if they really wanted to destroy these planes why would they replace them with freebies.

America has other things to worry for, both P3 and Erieye are a pain in someone else's head and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

 

[nwmalik]

America has other things to worry for, both P3 and Erieye are a pain in someone else's head and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

we should be able to defend our assets.
If india is able take down the assets which are pain in their *** then i salute them.

Dont blame our incompetence on others.
I am sorry to say but last few years have really been disappointing and depressing. We as a nation (civil and military) have failed to protect our people and property.

 

[Last Hope]

Pakistani T.V and print media are counting two losses of Saab-2000 in the attack.This photo released by APP on August 17 shows an unhurt Saab-2000 in background.

2 out of the 4 Saab AEW&C aircraft were stationed in the base at the time of attack. Also, there is "NO" news on internet or SAAB/PAF press release confirming the delivery of last 4th aircraft to PAF.

I would leave the remaining part of puzzle for you guys...

PAF has four Saab-2000. Three are Saab-2000 AEW&C whilst the fourth one is transport version based in Chaklala.

Look at the faces of the airmen & officers, do they give a look of men who have lost one of their prized platform, don't think so.

I do see the 'after-war' looks on their faces. They have lost three men (One dead at the time, one in coma and third in ICU.) and they have the right to feel upset over it.