Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[mughaljee]

 

[ice_man]

from what i heard the Saab Systems Erieye have totally refused to support PAF in repairs. they also have become as paranoid as the americans about technology falling into chinese hands. so i guess our losses will not be replenish

 

[TaimiKhan]

from what i heard the Saab Systems Erieye have totally refused to support PAF in repairs. they also have become as paranoid as the americans about technology falling into chinese hands. so i guess our losses will not be replenish

They have made agreements with respect to services. And if they were so paranoid in the first place, why sell and then keep delivering them. Had that been the case, PAF would have locked those aerial platforms rather then flying them as flying them would need service & repair.

And there has been no loss, just slight damage to the airframe, the radar & its support equipment is safe.

 

[rohailmalhi]

They have made agreements with respect to services. And if they were so paranoid in the first place, why sell and then keep delivering them. Had that been the case, PAF would have locked those aerial platforms rather then flying them as flying them would need service & repair.

And there has been no loss, just slight damage to the airframe, the radar & its support equipment is safe.

Yes exactly they have contract with PAF for service and repairs and what I know is they cannot loose Pakistan as a customer.

Just for a moment think how childish they would be refusing us service and then we have no choice but to go to china . They will loose a customer as well as our trust. and there technology will be in China ...........

 

[TaimiKhan]

Yes exactly they have contract with PAF for service and repairs and what I know is they cannot loose Pakistan as a customer.

Just for a moment think how childish they would be refusing us service and then we have no choice but to go to china . They will loose a customer as well as our trust. and there technology will be in China ...........

Yaar, Chinese don't need tech for each stuff. They have been doing research in AESA tech for past many many years and lot of their aerial, land & naval radar platforms are using AESA tech in them, which clearly suggests that Chinese have mastered this tech and have started implementing it after having fully satisfied in their tech and its performance. Their SAM systems are using AESA tech, their latest DDG / frigates are having the AESA tech, their first re-furbished aircraft carrier has AESA radar, KJ-200 & 2000 are AESA tech etc etc. If they had not been confident, they would not put this tech in theit latest & most critical platforms.

 

[ice_man]

They have made agreements with respect to services. And if they were so paranoid in the first place, why sell and then keep delivering them. Had that been the case, PAF would have locked those aerial platforms rather then flying them as flying them would need service & repair.

And there has been no loss, just slight damage to the airframe, the radar & its support equipment is safe.

taimi remember the 90s and the F-16s drama? well the same issue is with the SAABs they HAD to deliever due to contract but provide spares was part of it but fix it and repair it was NOT a part of it.

Taimi i would recommend you speak to some one in Kamra you will get your answer.

 

[TaimiKhan]

taimi remember the 90s and the F-16s drama? well the same issue is with the SAABs they HAD to deliever due to contract but provide spares was part of it but fix it and repair it was NOT a part of it.

Taimi i would recommend you speak to some one in Kamra you will get your answer.

There are so many members who are giving very different statements based on their insider sources.

But the most trust worthy ones with past very good and accurate record have clearly stated that nothing was lost and minor damage done, which can be repaired here in Pakistan, but for double checking purpose and a thorough review of the airframe it would be send back. And if Sweden does what you just said, it will bring them a bad name, we still buy weapons from them and Erieye is still needed to be exported by them, such actions will bring their reputation at risk. And as said, had they been paranoid, they would not have sold in the first place when this paranoia of Chinese copying tech was there, this is not a new phenomena, its an old one, and Chinese are doing good in it.

Still, time will tell what is the truth and what is not.

 

[Safriz]

The plane is made by saab and Awacs by ericcson...
Pakinstan paid bith seperately..so i guess there are two seperate contracts with two manufacturers..
For plane maintinance with saab and for awacs ericsson...

Plus sweden has a non alliance strategy...they cannot compete with Usa in weapon exports so they grab oppertunity where USA doest supply weapons...such as in Pakistan's case..
Unlike USA .. Sweden doesnt have unlimited resources and needs saab,ericsson to remain in business...
So i dont see any reason why would they refuse repairs or spares.

 

[Fieldmarshal]

And there has been no loss, just slight damage to the airframe, the radar & its support equipment is safe.

Taimi Khan all i will tell you right now is that that PAF has suffered pretty substantial losses .
and this is an eye witness account.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Taimi Khan all i will tell you right now is that that PAF has suffered pretty substantial losses .
and this is an eye witness account.

And sir other eye witness accounts give a different story. What to believe and what not. Time will only tell.

 

[Fieldmarshal]

And sir other eye witness accounts give a different story. What to believe and what not. Time will only tell.

maybe some day i can post some pics

 

[IceCold]

maybe some day i can post some pics

Man if you know something why not tell (without compromising national security of course). Why create all the suspense? PN suffered losses and they were there for everyone to see. Are you implying that somehow PAF has managed to keep it a secret even after sustaining the amount of loss you are claiming to?

 

[Jango]

And sir other eye witness accounts give a different story. What to believe and what not. Time will only tell.

I beg to differ sir ji.

It is Substantial!

 

[ice_man]

the question is not if it was Substantial or not! the question is WILL SWEDEN help us repair and replinish our losses??? if not then truly the terrorists or should i say traitors have succeded in their mission remarkably!

 

[Hyperion]

I beg to differ sir ji.

It is Substantial!

@NP, mate, the substantial damage is there, however, just to ONE airframe and most of it is modular. Don't fret too much!