ATR-72 for Pakistan Navy

[Jango]

Who says they are not reached, I've seen it twice landing at Faisal Base Karachi. Although i've captured P-3c & C-130 several times with cellphone camera but i could not capture it.

Remember to get a picture the next time!

 

[Cool_Soldier]

PAkistan Navy Assets

 

[Penguin]

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[Bamboo Castle]

Pakistan facing numerous challenges: Sandila
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KARACHI - Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Mohammad Asif Sandila has said the country is faced with traditional and a host of non-traditional challenges, however, under the guidance of the government’s policies, Pakistan Navy is currently engaged in executing its designated efforts to meet the challenges at national as well as regional level, and will continue to play its due role in future too.
The naval chief said this on Wednesday while addressing the annual efficiency competition parade and awards ceremony of Pakistan Navy for the year 2012 held at PN Dockyard. “To pick up the gauntlet of participating in naval operations to combat terrorism and international piracy in collaboration with allied navies, Pakistan Navy’s regular contribution as well as commanding Task Forces 150 and 151 is ample acknowledgement of PN’s high professional standards as well as endeavor to establish peace in the region”, he added.
The efficiency parade, held every year, signifies the professional achievements of PN fleet units over the last 12 months. Fleet units, which excel in various categories, are awarded shields to acknowledge their outstanding performances, besides boosting healthy competition within the Command, an ISPR release said. The chief of the naval staff said that we bow our heads in expressing our gratitude to the Almighty for endowing upon us the opportunity to observe and celebrate the conclusion of another year of professional dedication; simultaneously, it is a day for expressing not only our firm resolve that during the new year too we shall not only take up the mantle of gradually enhancing our professional standards but also endeavor to apply ourselves dedicatedly towards the accomplishment of our professional goals with even greater commitment. While paying tribute to the brave officers, sailors and men who laid down their lives while defending against terror attacks, the naval chief said in the prevailing milieu, Pakistan Navy had undertaken a number of steps but to effectively counter the prevailing threat, preparation to meet challenges is a persistent effort, constant vigilance and preparedness can make national defence impregnable.
He added that apart from Pakistan fleet’s various successful operations, the effective execution of exercises RIBAT and SEASPARK are the prominent achievements. Additionally, missile and torpedo firings have played an effective role in enhancing our war preparedness, confidence and training. He commended the Fleet Command for undertaking the noble task of providing fresh drinking water to the residents of Gwadar and supporting own countrymen. The induction of the Modified P3C aircraft and PNS AZMAT in Pakistan Naval Fleet during 2012 is a significant landmark. Additionally, with the construction of PNS ASLAT and PNS DEHSHAT [FAC (M)] at Karachi shipyard, which will be formally inducted in PN Fleet in 2013, our defence capabilities will be further augmented. This year, ATR-72 aircraft will join PN and replace the ageing Fokkers.
He said the rapid changes in the technologies for defence equipment, especially maritime warfare and latest developments in naval strategies, demand optimum professional capabilities and the highest level of proficiency. Commander Pakistan Fleet, Vice Admiral Zakaullah, in his welcome address, recounted the operational achievements of PN Fleet during the year 2012. In the end, the Chief Guest Admiral Mohammad Asif Sandila gave away the shields and congratulated all the efficiency winners.


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I heard, the ATR-72 are meant for replacing those two P-3C orions destroyed in 2011. I guess I heard wrong.

 

[Bamboo Castle]

only one ? why not 3

Budget crisis... One as trainer at the moment, and when the budget constrain refrains then two more with ASW kit.

 

[fatman17]

and the ASW kit is rumoured to be the turkish Meltam-III.

 

[Inception-06]

Cant the F-27 be upgraded and use for SSG or NSSG air borne Troops ?

 

[Jango]

and the ASW kit is rumoured to be the turkish Meltam-III.

Any idea when it would be fitted? And the aircraft will go to Turkey I assume?

 

[khanasifm]

https://twitter.com/warnesyworld

Per Alan Warnes April 3, PN getting 4 ATR-72 to replace F27s.

 

[fatman17]

Any idea when it would be fitted? And the aircraft will go to Turkey I assume?

most likely.....

https://twitter.com/warnesyworld

Per Alan Warnes April 3, PN getting 4 ATR-72 to replace F27s.

thats the plan. now it depends on our govt. to allocate funds for these capital expenditures...

 

[monitor]

Alenia Aeronautica has used its engineering and consolidated integration capabilities to design the ATR72 ASW. Based on the ATR72-500 aircraft, the ATR72 ASW is a new solution for a medium range anti-submarine warfare aircraft at affordable cost. The ATR72 ASW integrates the Maritime Patrol Mission System with the additional capabilities required for ASW missions including acoustic system with sonobuoy launcher, MAD, self protection and antisurface and antisubmarine armament.The ATR72 ASW has been recently selected as the winner of the MELTEM-3 Program issued by the Turkish Government for the supply of ten aircraft to the Turkish Navy.Alenia Aeronautica also realizes the ATR42 MP Surveyor, the maritime patrol version of the ATR commuter aircraft, already in service with the Italian Customs Police and Coast Guard.


The Meltem III program, the contract of which was signed with Alenia Aeronautica S.p.A. in December 2005, became effective in April 2006. Under the program, the modification, regarding the transformation of a total of 10 ATR72-500 aircraft into ATR72-500ASW Maritime Patrol (MPA) aircraft will be realized by TAI.

TAI’s work load, which is increased proportionally when compared to Meltem II program, comprises; design of system installation and structural integration, Kit-A and tools manufacturing, procurement of material and support equipment, structural modification, assembly, ground-flight support and integrated logistics support (ILS) activities for a total of 42 work packages.

 

[Nishan_101]

So what are the alternative aircraft of such categories like of:
ATR-72/Saab-2000

ATR-42/Saab-340

Please members upload complete date about them along with pictures.

 

[Nishan_101]

I think if PN and PAF has decided at earlier stages like in 2000 along with PIA(under confidence from GoP in terms of Finance like always) then it wouldn't be a bad idea at all for PAC to license produce:

For PN:(with weapons carriage two under each wing and two under fuselage)
11 ATR-42s MPA
11 ATR-72s MPA

For PAF:(with weapons carriage two under each wing and two under fuselage)
11 ATR-42s AEW&Cs
11 ATR-72s Surveillance and Reconnaissance

May be some:
11 ATR-42s Military Transport
11 ATR-72s Military Transport

That will be used by All of the Military and Govt. branches to travel on.

For PIA(GoP Finance)
7 ATR-42s Transport
7 ATR-72s Transport

So about 30 of both Aircraft would be produced under license at PAC that will going to give jobs to many people and the money would be then returned in the form of Knowledge as well. And we can also have export potential due to lower price as well as future partnership as well.

I have a relative in PIA who always says that PIA earns a lot for these Cheap Turbo Props and PIA had made a decent amount of money from F-27 Foker which requires less maintenance and fuel as well.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Can this carry harpoon missiles?

I think if PN and PAF has decided at earlier stages like in 2000 along with PIA(under confidence from GoP in terms of Finance like always) then it wouldn't be a bad idea at all for PAC to license produce:

For PN:(with weapons carriage two under each wing and two under fuselage)
11 ATR-42s MPA
11 ATR-72s MPA

For PAF:(with weapons carriage two under each wing and two under fuselage)
11 ATR-42s AEW&Cs
11 ATR-72s Surveillance and Reconnaissance

For PIA(GoP Finance)
7 ATR-42s AEW&Cs
7 ATR-72s Surveillance and Reconnaissance

So about 30 of both Aircraft would be produced under license at PAC that will going to give jobs to many people and the money would be then returned in the form of Knowledge as well. And we can also have export potential due to lower price as well as future partnership as well.

I have a relative in PIA who always says that PIA earns a lot for these Cheap Turbo Props and PIA had made a decent amount of money from F-27 Foker which requires less maintenance and fuel as well.

Turboprops are good for maritime patrol,unless u have opposition carrier battle group in area,in that case u need fighter escorts.Otherwise they are cheap and slow enough to track and kills subs with efficiency.Against surface battle group they need escort and long range standoff weapons as with big RCS ships radar will pick them up very early.

 

[fatman17]

Thales Displays Full-Up Maritime Patrol System AIN Defense Perspective

» June 21, 2013 by Chris Pocock


An operator views screens that form part of the Thales Amascos system.

On show for the first time at the Paris Air Show this week was a complete Thales Amascos system, the French company’s contender in the booming maritime surveillance market.


The integrated system weighs less and requires less power than older systems, Thales claims. It ties together radar, Elint, electronic warfare, optronic and acoustic sensors, as well as communications systems and tactical datalinks. It has a modular architecture that enables it to be adapted to smaller aircraft performing surveillance from a single console only, to large aircraft for the anti-surface and anti-submarine missions, which will have four or five consoles. Each console position has two screens that are redundant and interchangeable. The system can be reconfigured during a mission, if the tactical coordinator desires, and this means the aircraft can stay airborne for longer, resulting in a potentially smaller fleet.

“We are masters of most sensors, and we are also strong in maritime C2 architecture, where 50 navies already use our Tacticos system,” Pierre Eric Pommelet, Thales executive vice president, defense mission systems, told AIN. But Thales will adapt Amascos to work with any sensor that a customer specifies, which is more likely to be in the communications and Elint domain, he added.

The company is also platform-agnostic. To date, Amascos has been integrated on Airbus Military CN-235s (Indonesia and Turkey); Alenia ATR 72s (Turkey); Beechcraft King Airs (Malaysia); Bombardier Dash 8s (UAE Air Force); Dassault Falcon 900s (Japan); and Gulfstream IVs (Turkey). The Turkish ATR 72 contract is currently under way, having recently been adjusted from 10 ATR 72-500s to the latest glass-cockpit and more powerful ATR 72-600 version, two of which will be basic utility aircraft followed by six multi-role, torpedo-armed aircraft. They are being modified by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in a program called KMeltem 3. Sensors include Thales’ own Ocean Master radar and optronics from local company Aselsan.

Dassault is currently marketing the Falcon 2000 as a maritime recon aircraft–an example was on display at Le Bourget–with the Amascos system. The two French companies are also working together on a further upgrade of the French Navy’s ATL2 that was previewed in the recent French defense white paper. “We expect to get the work,” said Pommelet.

most likely system for PN MPA requirements.