ATR-72 for Pakistan Navy

[Nishan_101]

Thales Displays Full-Up Maritime Patrol System AIN Defense Perspective

» June 21, 2013 by Chris Pocock


An operator views screens that form part of the Thales Amascos system.

On show for the first time at the Paris Air Show this week was a complete Thales Amascos system, the French company’s contender in the booming maritime surveillance market.


The integrated system weighs less and requires less power than older systems, Thales claims. It ties together radar, Elint, electronic warfare, optronic and acoustic sensors, as well as communications systems and tactical datalinks. It has a modular architecture that enables it to be adapted to smaller aircraft performing surveillance from a single console only, to large aircraft for the anti-surface and anti-submarine missions, which will have four or five consoles. Each console position has two screens that are redundant and interchangeable. The system can be reconfigured during a mission, if the tactical coordinator desires, and this means the aircraft can stay airborne for longer, resulting in a potentially smaller fleet.

“We are masters of most sensors, and we are also strong in maritime C2 architecture, where 50 navies already use our Tacticos system,” Pierre Eric Pommelet, Thales executive vice president, defense mission systems, told AIN. But Thales will adapt Amascos to work with any sensor that a customer specifies, which is more likely to be in the communications and Elint domain, he added.

The company is also platform-agnostic. To date, Amascos has been integrated on Airbus Military CN-235s (Indonesia and Turkey); Alenia ATR 72s (Turkey); Beechcraft King Airs (Malaysia); Bombardier Dash 8s (UAE Air Force); Dassault Falcon 900s (Japan); and Gulfstream IVs (Turkey). The Turkish ATR 72 contract is currently under way, having recently been adjusted from 10 ATR 72-500s to the latest glass-cockpit and more powerful ATR 72-600 version, two of which will be basic utility aircraft followed by six multi-role, torpedo-armed aircraft. They are being modified by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) in a program called KMeltem 3. Sensors include Thales’ own Ocean Master radar and optronics from local company Aselsan.

Dassault is currently marketing the Falcon 2000 as a maritime recon aircraft–an example was on display at Le Bourget–with the Amascos system. The two French companies are also working together on a further upgrade of the French Navy’s ATL2 that was previewed in the recent French defense white paper. “We expect to get the work,” said Pommelet.

most likely system for PN MPA requirements.

I think better for PAFAEW&Cs, Recon and transport , PN MPA and AEW&Cs and PIA transport, To go for license production of ATR-42&72-600/700 or do a similar JV with China...

 

[nomi007]

when will atr-72 touches ppakistani soil

 

[fatman17]

Second ATR72-500 Delivered to Pakistan Navy


Posted on: July 9th, 2013



New Pakistan Navy ATR72-212A A2-ABS (c/n 788), a former Air Botswana aircraft, arriving on its delivery flight at Palma de Mallorca, Spain, yesterday from Las Palmas-Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands, where it had been refurbished. The aircraft is destined for PNS Mehran, where it will join another of the type that was delivered earlier this year. Javier Rodriguez

A SECOND ATR72-500 has been delivered to the Pakistan Navy. The former Air Botswana aircraft, ATR72-212A A2-ABS (c/n 788), was refurbished at Las Palmas-Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands. It departed from there yesterday, July 8, on its delivery flight, initially routing via Palma de Mallorca, Spain.

Although repainted in new grey military colours, it only wore a Pakistan Navy emblem on the forward fuselage and was otherwise unmarked, apart from the Botswana registration, which was temporarily taped back on.

As reported previously on AFD, another ATR-212A, EC-JAH (c/n 712), was delivered to the Pakistan Navy earlier this year. That too was refurbished at Las Palmas, from where it left on delivery on March 2 and arrived at Pakistan Naval Base Mehran two days later.

AFD-Dave Allport

 

[Jango]

@fatman17, what's the latest on the MPA retrofit? Are plans on hold right now?

And any news about the serial number given to them?

 

[fatman17]

@fatman17, what's the latest on the MPA retrofit? Are plans on hold right now?

And any news about the serial number given to them?

the retrofit could be in 1-2 years time. first there is the asimillation of the crews, then they have 2 options.
1. install the MPA equipment from F-27's to ATR's. if that is not possible then
2. MELTEM-II or III

 

[Windjammer]

Pakistan Navy's second ATR-72

 

[Windjammer]

 

[nomi007]

what are specifications of atr-72 mpa
can we compare it with p-3c Orion?

 

[XYON]

PN at this time lacks funds for the conversion of the ATR72 in MPA platforms. It will be around 3-4 years before they can even think of a full conversion project by any vendor.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

cant both are different type of aircrafts

p-3c was specially designed for maritime petrol
while atr-72 is an airliner

 

[Neptune]

what are specifications of atr-72 mpa
can we compare it with p-3c Orion?

as PN's gonna operate ATR-72/212:

Well Orion comes with a larger payload (but most of the designated armaments are retired from the service), better range, better climbing rate than ATR.

While ATR's payload is smaller than the Orion. But has more modern armament. Parly equal in systems when compared to the most advanced P-3 that the US has. But it uses European systems such as Thales. It has a better engine when compared the aircraft body.

And here's my question everybody, the military variant is based on ATR-72/500 but why PN went with ATR-72/212 instead of going with 500MP like Italy, Turkey did. Thx.

 

[XYON]

as PN's gonna operate ATR-72/212:

And here's my question everybody, the military variant is based on ATR-72/500 but why PN went with ATR-72/212 instead of going with 500MP like Italy, Turkey did. Thx.

BECAUSE, a user ATR72/500 is more expensive then a used ATR72/212 not to even think about buying new ones!!

 

[nomi007]

what is basic purpose of purchasing ATR-72

 

[Neptune]

what is basic purpose of purchasing ATR-72

to enlarge/upgrade the aerial ASW capabilities of PN.

 

[Windjammer]