Atheism: Next threat to humanity

[kuge]

So in core of every religious practitioner lies a personal motive that investment in almighty will attract great rewards ..I don't see any moral high ground for a religious guy over athiest as athiest is helping themselves without depending on God ..

It is the god who initiatiated his promise & rewards to abraham not the other way around.
It is only natural to reap a reward from the almighty in this case an immortal body to be with god in his kingdom in the future on the earth.
To reap that reward however requires training in righteousness & denying self & conform to god's law.
man by natural self cannot attain the high moral ground.

It is absolutely fine atheists dont depend on god as he would not force anyone to do so.
They simply live a life, die & vanish forever.

 

[CriticalThought]

It is the god who initiatiated his promise & rewards to abraham not the other way around.
It is only natural to reap a reward from the almighty in this case an immortal body to be with god in his kingdom in the future on the earth.
To reap that reward however requires training in righteousness & denying self & conform to god's law.
man by natural self cannot attain the high moral ground.

It is absolutely fine atheists dont depend on god as he would not force anyone to do so.
They simply live a life, die & vanish forever.

They don't 'vanish forever'. All of mankind is answerable for their deeds during this life. Then the ones upon whom Allah Bestows His Mercy shall go to Heaven, and those who face His Wrath shall go to Hell. May Allah Save all muslims from Hell and Grant us lofty positions in Heaven. Aameen.

 

[zip]

People distancing themselves from Islam are inherently bad.

Don't make circular argument ..There are people in the world who do good work without any expectations but religion is using afterlife heavens and other offers to sell itself to gullible masses..

It is the god who initiatiated his promise & rewards to abraham not the other way around.
It is only natural to reap a reward from the almighty in this case an immortal body to be with god in his kingdom in the future on the earth.
To reap that reward however requires training in righteousness & denying self & conform to god's law.
man by natural self cannot attain the high moral ground.

It is absolutely fine atheists dont depend on god as he would not force anyone to do so.
They simply live a life, die & vanish forever.

If you found peace in your meaning of life then certainly I don't want to disturb it but as you have opinion about athiest and their vanishing they too laugh at your approach towards life that almighty expects this and that !!If he has expectations than he is not almighty , is he ?

 

[CriticalThought]

Don't make circular argument ..There are people in the world who do good work without any expectations but religion is using afterlife heavens and other offers to sell itself to gullible masses..

Go understand circular arguments first. Anyone who doesn't believe in the universal truth that is Islam is fundamentally bad. Such people may take good actions, for example, helping the poor and needy. But if someone is acrimonious towards his own Creator and His Religion, such a person has no claim upon goodness of heart. It takes a particularly cruel bent of character to do this.

Religion doesn't need to 'sell itself'. People can and do go against it, and they destroy their afterlife because of it. It's like a raging fire has a big board saying 'Stay away'. If you say the billboard is playing on people's fears to keep them away, you have a big problem.

 

[kuge]

They don't 'vanish forever'. All of mankind is answerable for their deeds during this life. Then the ones upon whom Allah Bestows His Mercy shall go to Heaven, and those who face His Wrath shall go to Hell. May Allah Save all muslims from Hell and Grant us lofty positions in Heaven. Aameen.

the bible says all man are like creatures ...born,live & die.
not all of mankind in all ages are subject to answering to god except those who have had knowledge of god's law.

neither the bible teaches heaven-going nor so-called "souls burn in hell forever"

 

[CriticalThought]

the bible says all man are like creatures ...born,live & die.
not all of mankind in all ages are subject to answering to god except those who have had knowledge of god's law.

neither the bible teaches heaven-going nor so-called "souls burn in hell forever"

Can you please make sure you explicitly point out that you are writing from a Christian point of view? Thank you.

 

[kuge]

If you found peace in your meaning of life then certainly I don't want to disturb it but as you have opinion about athiest and their vanishing they too laugh at your approach towards life that almighty expects this and that !!If he has expectations than he is not almighty , is he ?

God would not expect everyone to obey him even though he wishes that.
Following him is just an option. Your life you decide...He does not owe anyone.

arent atheists believed they simply live a life & die?

 

[zip]

Go understand circular arguments first. Anyone who doesn't believe in the universal truth that is Islam is fundamentally bad. Such people may take good actions, for example, helping the poor and needy. But if someone is acrimonious towards his own Creator and His Religion, such a person has no claim upon goodness of heart. It takes a particularly cruel bent of character to do this.

Religion doesn't need to 'sell itself'. People can and do go against it, and they destroy their afterlife because of it. It's like a raging fire has a big board saying 'Stay away'. If you say the billboard is playing on people's fears to keep them away, you have a big problem.

One can believe he has a palace in sky but problem is he can enjoy it in his belief only as it doesn't touch the ground ..If belief is foundation then why to stay as servant to almighty rather than becoming one ? If billboard says it's raging fire than it is pointing towards your certain experience and your billboard gets its meaning from that experience which it is telling to avoid ..Now which comes first , experience or bill board ?

 

[kuge]

Can you please make sure you explicitly point out that you are writing from a Christian point of view? Thank you.

yes...

 

[zip]

God would not expect everyone to obey him even though he wishes that.
Following him is just an option. Your life you decide...He does not owe anyone.

arent atheists believed they simply live a life & die?

Again almighty wishes !!It is not almighty but people who wishes and almighty is perfect scapegoat around which everything can be sold to gullible ..

 

[kuge]

Again almighty wishes !!It is not almighty but people who wishes and almighty is perfect scapegoat around which everything can be sold to gullible ..

it is not my wish/will but the bible says so..
anyway it is an option...

 

[zip]

it is not my wish/will but the bible says so..
anyway it is an option...

Believing in times of uncertainty is human nature , nothing wrong in it ...But believing for selfish motives and selling it as Gospel truth is not good ..

 

[GeraltofRivia]

India is a country of very religious people.

An ancient people.

One who have always guided your people spiritually.

In every way that matters, China belongs to the Dharmic sphere of influence when you look at the ancient world.

Most of the rest of Asia being Zoroastrian, all the way to Europe. Including the Abrahamic faiths it provided the base tenets and template for.

I take it that you believe that China's rise is directly linked to shedding your civilizational spirituality and culture?

Could you expand on that thought further.

India continues to grow too. Where we are in relation to you is a combination of timing and social and political structure.

That is my view.

Cheers, Doc

Let me give an attempt to your your question regarding the the linkage between China’s rise and our civilizational spirituality and culture.

The core thought in Chinese civilizational spiritual and practical world is Confucianism. Some may not consider it as a religion, it is more of a mixture of philosophy and governance theory.

Confucianism profoundly shaped China in the past and to this day in multiple aspects:

On the personal development aspect, it promoted continuous learning, being educated and knowledgeable. This is very similar with the elements of modern theory of development in developing human capital.

At institutional level, Confucianist established a merit based promotion system in governance. This system created a class of people so called scholars, who were trained from young age to become a scholar and a bureaucrat. Their training and inspiration has always been running and elevating the nation in positive ways.

So the people that directly shaped modern China (both current government and the previous nationalist government) are merely the modern version of the scholar class and they are Confucianist. One of the first thing they did was the compulsory minimum 9 year education for every child reaching school age. It means that in the 80s and 90s there is a large educated and organized work force that is ready for the new industries.

As a result, there was a strong linkage between China’s rise and its civilizational culture.

Just my2 cents.

 

[BATMAN]

Most atheists are just the ones who don't care.

It's always funny to hear an Hindu defining and claiming atheism.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

It's always funny to hear an Hindu defining and claiming atheism.

Most Hindus claim to be atheists online and worship idols and hate Muslims at home.