Atheism: Next threat to humanity

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Aoa



Explain what exactly you mean by something logical.





What do you think my holy book says about the earth's shape?




I don't really follow any Turkish philosophers. So I cannot much say anything about this.

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google definition of 'logic'

u asked me a question, i have answered u n its my turn to ask u one. Why the kid's play here?

 

[kuge]

im not interested in what these people belive.

im asking u to show proof that god exists.

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla, circles n circles n circles, yet ultimately, u still cant address my question head on directly- that's what theists do when confronted with the single question they can NEVER answer

i repeat:

show proof god exists.

hi,
i m not asking you to accept my answer just something i think the god does exist...
historically & prophetically the return of the nation of israel after their wipe out by romans in AD70

the complexity & harmonious of nature (e.g human biology, universe)

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

You have no argument! Basically you are saying that the universe and all in it came into existence from nothing. That life came out of nothing.

= strawman

Now move along.

Also, y should i? the thread title is bold enough to render my participation here valid.

 

[kankan326]

im not interested in what these people belive.

im asking u to show proof that god exists.

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla, circles n circles n circles, yet ultimately, u still cant address my question head on directly- that's what theists do when confronted with the single question they can NEVER answer

i repeat:

show proof god exists.

I think I can answer your question for Muslims.
------"If God doesn't exist, why there are so many people who believe God does exist?" Group psychology plays a cruicial role among the religion believers.

 

[Mage]

A speech by God in the UN General Assembly would be a good start.

Infidel.

God has so many galaxies to look after. He has no time to interfere in a little planet's affairs.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Aoa

google definition of 'logic'

u asked me a question, i have answered u n its my turn to ask u one. Why the kid's play here?

I know what logic is. There are logical arguments you have to present - simply saying it is logical does not make it so.

You are making a claim that God cannot exist because you think it is illogical. You have not provided any objective scientific proof for your position. Yet you continue to ask me for proof?

If I say that God must exist because I think it is illogical for God to not exist, would you accept that as a valid argument?


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[kankan326]

Infidel.

God has so many galaxies to look after. He has no time to interfere in a little planet's affairs.

Then why he cares the tiny creatures living on the little planet? What he would gain if you believe him and what he would lose if you don't?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Well what about Joseph Stalin who blew up churches in USSR and Communist China destroying Churches?

There are several different things going on.

1. People of power, getting rid of any possible opposition (Stalin/China fits here)
2. Young people that simply enjoy destruction of the properties of others
3. Religious people/Atheists that attack people because of their (non) faith.
4. People of a certain religion is attacked because that religion invokes hatred through it behaviour, not because it is a religion.

There are very few atheists that fit category 3 and violently attack anyone religious regardless of religion. There are certainly Muslims that are are prepared to kill anyone that does not fit their particular. The Catholic Church used to persecute non Catholics.
Many wars are fought for religious reasons, including all wars between India and Pakistan.

 

[nature is]

India existed as much as China existed.

India has recorded history and texts that go back thousands of years.

As well.as universities that were the centers of learning to the ancient world.

I'm not negating Taoism or Confucianism at all.

But Buddhism is a Dharmic faith.

And no Indians at any time in thousands of years have been Taoists or Confucian.

Cheers, Doc

No quite. India never had recorded history before Islamic era. There exists no Indian historian.

Buddhist monastery is not university.

Buddhism isn't a religion strictly speaking. Much less dharmic religion, a modern day Hindu nationalist invented term.

Chinese civilization didn't born out of religious tradition, we don't preach faith. Chinese are pragmatic: rather trade than preach, rather gain wealth than ask for alms.

Indians needn't be Confucian or Taoist to study ancient Chinese text, to learn Indian history from thousand years ago.

 

[Mage]

Then why he cares the tiny creatures living on the little planet? What he would gain if you believe him and what he would lose if you don't?

Learn to take a joke sometimes?

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

I think I can answer your question for Muslims.
------"If God doesn't exist, why there are so many people who believe God does exist?" Group psychology plays a cruicial role among the religion believers.

Assumptions! There is one fate that all will endure "Death" just like Stephen Hawkings statement of no god and no fate guess what he died fate accompli! And he wished there is nothing just like you all that this IS be all and end all! No, you hope it and you wish because for all that matters you are the ones asking if ye had known.

Qur'an says "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe"
because guess what if you had seen would be fate accompli ain't it?

And, again, Qur'an [2:255]
"Allah! There is no deity save Him, the Alive, the Eternal.
Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him.
Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth.
Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave?
He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them,
while they encompass nothing of His knowledge save what He will.
His throne includeth the heavens and the earth,
and He is never weary of preserving them.
He is the Sublime, the Tremendous."

There is yet another argument as it says in Qur'an of a person who has been Blessed with a lot of wealth because of his fruit orchards and his argument is there is no god and if there was one then he would bless him after his death just like he did here. That has been narrated in chaper 18 The Cave.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Aoa

im not the 1 claiming god exists.

the burden of proof is on you.

thanks.

I have yet not made a claim about God's existence. I merely asked a question about the possibility of it. You said it is not possible because it is illogical.

So let's simplify.

Given that science has no definitive answer to how the Universe came about, do you think it is possible that the Universe was created by God?

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[danger007]

When we mix personal agenda with religion, every religion is a threat to humanity...

 

[Mage]

I think it is hard to say that no higher power might exist with complete certainty. But if a higher power like that exist we still don't know what it is and what it might want from us. So it is pointless to ponder about it. Just do whatever brings peace to your heart without harming anything in anyway.

 

[Verve]

im not the 1 claiming god exists.

the burden of proof is on you.

thanks.

The challenge is in The Holy Quran for you already. Reproduce just ONE Ayat like the ones in The Quran. No human has been able to reproduce one in last 1400+ years.

The Holy Quran is a proof as no human can produce such a Book, not even one new line.