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Aslat Frigate inducted into Pak Navy fleet

Ok . That is what I meant by "It most surely will have AIP and capability to fire CM from torpedo tubes . BMs - not possible ."

In post#63 it was said that yuan will have a nuclear option . I misunderstood it as nuclear propulsion .

If india is able to develop a nuclear reactor smaller enough to be integrated into the scorpion submarine than the french scorpion submarine can very well be made SSN

same can be done with Yuan class.but i doubt they would do.
 
If india is able to develop a nuclear reactor smaller enough to be integrated into the scorpion submarine than the french scorpion submarine can very well be made SSN

same can be done with Yuan class.but i doubt they would do.

I have doubts about that . Is it that simple to convert a SSK to SSN ???
 
Oh that CHinese JF 17?!!!!!

Which is unable to perform basic maneuvers after so many years of Induction and China itself is reluctant to induct?!!!!!

You Chinese are really funny nice tiny cute guys!!!!!!!!!

Is this a serious post?


 
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Dont take it as trolling, but I have not seen JF17 performing a complete Vertical loop. It always breaks off quite before 270 degrees of vertical circle. Same is the case with J10. They never dive to the horizontal point where from they started the vertical loop.
On a serious note, here is your answer...

JF-17 is performing a Roll of the Top - ROT followed by an aileron roll followed by another ROT. Basic energy manoeuvring: any aircraft that can perform a single ROT can do a thousand loops as loop returns the aircraft to its original kinetic energy whereas in the ROT speed is converted into altitude only. Hence doing it twice requires an immense thrust to weight ratio

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/jf-17-...ole-fighter-thread-4-a-594.html#ixzz2eAvlir3F

You can post the video to prove it wrong.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BlueDot_in_Space View Post
Dont take it as trolling, but I have not seen JF17 performing a complete Vertical loop. It always breaks off quite before 270 degrees of vertical circle. Same is the case with J10. They never dive to the horizontal point where from they started the vertical loop.
On a serious note, here is your answer...

JF-17 is performing a Roll of the Top - ROT followed by an aileron roll followed by another ROT. Basic energy manoeuvring: any aircraft that can perform a single ROT can do a thousand loops as loop returns the aircraft to its original kinetic energy whereas in the ROT speed is converted into altitude only. Hence doing it twice requires an immense thrust to weight ratio

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/jf-17-...ole-fighter-thread-4-a-594.html#ixzz2eAvlir3F

You can post the video to prove it wrong.

The suppa duppa jf-17 haven't even got FOC. So we should just rest the case here.
on topic- congrats for new ship.
 
The problem is real capability is not disclosed until now .

And I was talking about the platforms on which the weapon can be mounted not it's target .

Oh that CHinese JF 17?!!!!!

Which is unable to perform basic maneuvers after so many years of Induction and China itself is reluctant to induct?!!!!!

You Chinese are really funny nice tiny cute guys!!!!!!!!!
At first JF-17 were in service from 2007.
China produced J11 from 1998,J-10 from 2003,J-11B from 2007.
China Military budget near 50 Billions in 2007,now 110 billions.
China area are too big,PLAAF need long range and weight fighter(attacker).
So PLAAF needn't JF-17 not means it not a good fighter.
 
At first JF-17 were in service from 2007.
China produced J11 from 1998,J-10 from 2003,J-11B from 2007.
China Military budget near 50 Billions in 2007,now 110 billions.
China area are too big,PLAAF need long range and weight fighter(attacker).
So PLAAF needn't JF-17 not means it not a good fighter.

What has it got to do with what I said ???
 
I read some where that Turkey is also making its own Fighter Jet. Is it true?If so,how much progress??
We have the TFX project,design fase i believe.
In the Turkish section there is a thread about it you should check it out.
 
At first JF-17 were in service from 2007.
China produced J11 from 1998,J-10 from 2003,J-11B from 2007.
China Military budget near 50 Billions in 2007,now 110 billions.
China area are too big,PLAAF need long range and weight fighter(attacker).
So PLAAF needn't JF-17 not means it not a good fighter.


None of your argument proves the quality of Chinese Stuff or its capability I questioned.
 
Pakistan inducts last of four Chinese-designed F-22P frigates:


Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad.

Last posted:
2013-09-04


The Pakistan Navy on 3 September formally inducted the last of the four F-22P frigates purchased from China in a contract worth USD700 million.

PNS Aslat was entirely built at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works (KSEW) under a technology transfer contract, according to senior Pakistani officials. The previous three ships were built either entirely or partially in China.

Pakistan's recently elected prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, who presided over a ceremony in the southern port city of Karachi to induct the frigate, described it as a landmark event.

"Construction of the F-22P frigate at Karachi Shipyard under transfer of technology is a testament of the everlasting bond of friendship that exists between China and Pakistan," said Sharif, adding: "I am confident that the defence co-operation between the two countries will grow from strength to strength in years to come and will be a source of improving peace, security, and stability in the region."

Sharif also used the event to refer to China's involvement in the development and management of a strategically vital naval port at Gwadar in the south of western Baluchistan province, overlooking the northern Arabian Sea. The location of the Gwadar port is strategically significant because it is close to the Strait of Hormuz, which is the only maritime passage through to the oil-rich Persian Gulf region.

"I would also like to acknowledge Chinese co-operation in development of Gwadar Deep Water Port, which has strengthened the maritime infrastructure in Pakistan and opened new vistas of economic growth and prosperity in Balochistan," said Sharif.

The port at Gwadar was built at a cost of about USD250 million, which included a USD200 million long-term soft loan from China. In early 2013 Pakistan cancelled a contract with PSA Singapore for management of the Gwadar port and gave its management rights to China.

Following Sharif's election in May this year, his government said it plans to build an ambitious economic corridor consisting of a six-lane highway and railway line that will eventually link Gwadar with China's predominantly Muslim western Xinjiang region.

Meanwhile, since early 2011 the Pakistan Navy has been in discussions with China over the purchase of six new submarines.

According to Western defence officials who stated , the submarine contract could become the largest single defence contract ever concluded by Pakistan. Although an exact value for the submarine contract has not been disclosed, one Western defence official said it could be worth anywhere between USD2.5 billion and USD4 billion, depending on the specification of the boats
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ANALYSIS

The Pakistan Navy's completion of plans to induct the four Chinese frigates will serve to cement the already close relationship between Pakistan and China.

Pakistan has stepped up its arms purchases from China over the past two decades since it went through a period of punitive US economic sanctions for working to produce nuclear weapons.

Indian defence officials have said that China's collaboration with Pakistan is driven by its ambition to create a string of allies around India before preparing for an eventual foray by the People's Liberation Army and Navy into the Indian Ocean region.


JDW

Honestly speaking most of the Pakistanis were considering that PN might going to produce about 3-4 of them at home in KS&EWs but I am sure due to financial issues its wasn't possible.
 
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Nawaz always has this facial expression on his face as if he has constipation problems
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Oh that CHinese JF 17?!!!!!

Which is unable to perform basic maneuvers after so many years of Induction and China itself is reluctant to induct?!!!!!

You Chinese are really funny nice tiny cute guys!!!!!!!!!


and what about 8th generation HAL TEJAS ? and indian flying coffins ? i am sure they have air superiority over f-22 raptor :omghaha:

i knew that indians are piece of shi* today you confirm this :D
 

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