Army orders ALCOTAN Shoulder Fired Anti Tank Weapon System

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

In every deal someone is making BIG money. Why can't these systems be developed locally. It is far more simpler than SLCMs and ALCMs. Or at least get the latest one on ToT basis.

It's not just the design part, but the production side as well. Someone would need to ask for funding to upgrade POF's facilities (or raise a new factory) to manufacture these one-shot MANPADs efficiently. If the Army decides to opt for the Alcotan in mass, then it better get Instalaz to issue a production license and the requisite hardware and machinery to Metal Engineering Works. If anything, Pakistan will at least get some substantive private sector activity.

 

[CHACHA"G"]

Great system for our LCBs , This will help them on LOC and COIN war , much better then RPGs and easier and lighter and even cheaper then Bakter-Shikan........
Its not a replacement for RPG(7) for that C-90 Reusable is good with better rocket and improve Range .
Check the video on link page.
C90 Reusable
The reloadable weapon system of the C90 Family

90 mm caliber Weapon System for infantry composed of:

• Reusable launcher Tube with optical sight and firing mechanism
• A variety of ammunition types (anti-tank, dual purpose, anti-bunker, smoke-incendiary, enhanced blast) The system has an, integrated, 2,5X optical sight.

A night vision device called VN38-C can be used, it does not require boresighting and can be attached and removed in the battlefield within seconds. VN38-C includes interchangeable optics in order to be used also for surveillance purposes with 3.3X magnification. Also a laser rangefinder can be mounted for precise target distance measurement.



http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-reutilizable/?lang=en

 

[pzfz]

Great system for our LCBs , This will help them on LOC and COIN war , much better then RPGs and easier and lighter and even cheaper then Bakter-Shikan........
Its not a replacement for RPG(7) for that C-90 Reusable is good with better rocket and improve Range .
Check the video on link page.
C90 Reusable
The reloadable weapon system of the C90 Family

90 mm caliber Weapon System for infantry composed of:

• Reusable launcher Tube with optical sight and firing mechanism
• A variety of ammunition types (anti-tank, dual purpose, anti-bunker, smoke-incendiary, enhanced blast) The system has an, integrated, 2,5X optical sight.

A night vision device called VN38-C can be used, it does not require boresighting and can be attached and removed in the battlefield within seconds. VN38-C includes interchangeable optics in order to be used also for surveillance purposes with 3.3X magnification. Also a laser rangefinder can be mounted for precise target distance measurement.



http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-reutilizable/?lang=en

Except Pak isn't getting the reusable C90. Don't think any (if all) countries currently using C90 have switched to the reusable one.

 

[war&peace]

It's not just the design part, but the production side as well. Someone would need to ask for funding to upgrade POF's facilities (or raise a new factory) to manufacture these one-shot MANPADs efficiently. If the Army decides to opt for the Alcotan in mass, then it better get Instalaz to issue a production license and the requisite hardware and machinery to Metal Engineering Works. If anything, Pakistan will at least get some substantive private sector activity.

I think TOT will be a better option since such small arms are always required in large numbers and also have the export potential thus producing locally even a modified version customed to PA's particular needs will be a good decision.



Though we should start focussing on the future battlefields. Pay more attention to the new technologies that can be integrated in tactical and strategic commands.

 

[Arsalan]

mian ji, I have only the official website to go by! Baki Allah behter jane.

http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-reutilizable/?lang=en

Different sources (authentic) have different views. Just google C90 rocket system and you will see what i am saying. Most of the links you will see mention C90 as a single use system janab.

You know the reason???

C 90 is a decades old system, originally came as a single shot disposable system. The targeting mechanism would be kept while the launch tube will be discarded after the shot is fired. The tube came fitted with the munition and could not be reloaded.

From the same site of this company:
http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-cr-m3/?lang=en

http://instalaza.com/producto/c90-cs/?lang=en
(but i guess you have already seen these products )

Now the company have worked and have developed/are developing a new reusable tube version, called C90 Reusable, this is the ONLY variant of family of other wise disposable rocket launcher systems.

Khair, Pakistan is going for ALCOTAN anyway so C-90 is not related to us. ALCOTAN, currently, comes as a single shot system. Only in future we may see some work done to make that tube reusable.

 

[ghazi768]

Another short-sighted procurement. Guessing it happened only because a relative of a general started his own "company" and "local partnership" of an old throw-away system. A system that's already a generation old is being billed as something that it's not.

one firing system and 8 rounds for combined price of 32Mn. khula khaoo te...

 

[CHACHA"G"]

C-90 Reusable is the only variant which can be used again and again just like any RPG system and "This system (C-90 reusable)" is relatively new system.
All other are one time use (rocket tube) systems only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And C-90 (not C-90 reusable) is the oldest one .
Please get this simple thing
And the one we bought (ALCOTAN) have 600 meters effective range against all targets and almost 1000 meters area target range.
This system is easy to use and easy to handle very user friendly , and cheaper the BS and TOW systems . Not only cheaper but lighter too.

 

[Readerdefence]

Might be using at LOC. Who knows!!!

I think may be to give more firepower towards Afghanistan border

A delivery was made earlier this month.

http://pak.eximtradeinfo.com/items/alcotan

That's why the big bird of paf was recently been seen in Europe

That means it wasn't fully destroyed in the first place and fake news was spread.

Or she'll I mean plane been given to us free of cost by someone from middleast
Just a thought

 

[Areesh]

I think may be to give more firepower towards Afghanistan border

I don't think it is needed on Afghan border. EVen RPG 7 are enough for Afghan border.

Anyways it is a decent system and is a good addition.

 

[Army research]

Even if this ain't some full scale replacement for all infantry, if Loc units commando platoons, lcb get it this is the best weapon of its category on the market for them, Carl Gustav fires cannon rounds like tanks, this fires missiles and missiles have more variety say bunker busting , which is very very much needed on LOC as there are no tanks up there longest range weapons are AA cannons and infantry combat range is 400 metres, there this baby would blow bunkers to pieces

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[Arsalan]

Sorry but than this is totally crap thing better get RPG 32 or some other system instead of this

Why so?

C-90 is old system Alotcan 100 is new system which in Spain in replacing C-90

Yes!!
That is what I told you mate. Whats the confusion now?

See:

It says it is "single use" and disposable system. Comes factory fitted with one rocket and the system can be discarded after one shot. Plus we opted not for C90 but Alcotan 100. (BTW, both Alcotan and C90 are single use)


Alcotan is what is actually REPLACING C90 with Spanish military.

This was posted in response to below post made by you sir:

Pakistan should produce C90 in Pakistan and replace RPG 7 with it. For Anti Tank HJ 12 and some thing from Turkey is way forward

Discarded what is meant by that. Can't it be used like RPG 7 ? Just keep putting rockets in launcher and firing it ??

nops

 

[Zarvan]

Why so?


Yes!!
That is what I told you mate. Whats the confusion now?

See:



This was posted in response to below post made by you sir:



nops

First I was confused because I thought C-90 was new system and Alotcan was old. But now I know Alotcan is new but still I don't want it this because sorry I am finding it hard to digest how on earth you can buy a weapon which is basically fires only one rocket from its tube than you have to change it. It's like a Gun fires only one bullet and than you have to change the barrel. It would be dam costly Sir

 

[Gryphon]

What to make of this? 108 units could be for say LCB?

No. ordered is mentioned in post #1.

 

[monitor]

Alcotan is maxican equivalent of karlov Gustav of Sweden . As a cheap weapons it can replace RPG-7 .

 

[Path-Finder]

First I was confused because I thought C-90 was new system and Alotcan was old. But now I know Alotcan is new but still I don't want it this because sorry I am finding it hard to digest how on earth you can buy a weapon which is basically fires only one rocket from its tube than you have to change it. It's like a Gun fires only one bullet and than you have to change the barrel. It would be dam costly Sir

That bold part is an understatement Hazrat! Why a sudden dislike? has this rocket insulted you Hazrat? Hazrat if you had bothered to visit the website it shows the various ammo it fires, I am talking about the C90 reusable system. So you were liking it before but not anymore!! Hmmn

Alcotan is maxican equivalent of karlov Gustav of Sweden . As a cheap weapons it can replace RPG-7 .

Its Spanish not Mexican.