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ISLAMABAD - The worst law and order situation in the country Monday forced even the parliamentarians to demand the army deployment to maintain peace in Karachi and Quetta at least for the first 10-day of Muharrum, besides apprehending that the overall security situation could adversely impact the upcoming general elections.

The third sitting of the 87th Senate session witnessed not only a walkout by Awami National Party (ANP) senators over ever-increasing incidents of targeted killings in Karachi but also hue and cry by legislators over the issue, irrespective of their party affiliations.

Terming it the worst security scenario than restive Waziristan and FATA, legislators called for across the board action to disarm Karachi otherwise, they said, the day was not far when the masses would demand another army intervention.

Besides strongly criticising the government over the situation, senators also called for ban on the militant wings of all the political parties and religious groups having representation in Karachi.

Unfortunately, all these reservations and suggestions came in the absence of the interior minister and the minister of state for interior. In addition, no high official of the Ministry of Interior was present there.

Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed of PML-Q, speaking on a point of order, categorically stated that the security situation was tantamount to the government’s failure and it could harm democracy in the country. “If the security situation in the country remains unchanged, it will adversely impact democracy and the upcoming general elections,” he said.

He said the time had come for political forces to develop a broad-based consensus through a platform also having representation of the judiciary and the army, before the general elections. He called for an effective anti-terrorism strategy.
He said a Ranger's official had told him that the law-enforcement agencies had apprehended some 8,500 people in Karachi for carrying illicit weapons but they were let free following politicians’ intervention.

Senator Kalsoom Perveen of BNP-Awami said no body was paying heed towards migration of Liyari residents to other areas while there was no one in the government to inform the countrymen about the reasons of unrest in the country. “If the government is not able to control the situation, the army should be called in Karachi and Quetta during Muharrum,” she suggested.

Senator Shahi Syed of ANP lamented that his party did not want to invite the army, but the government was doing nothing in this regard. “The masses are not ready to accept a democracy that cannot ensure protection of their lives and property. Indeed for the general public, particularly of Karachi, democracy is on way to revenge,” he lameted.

Senator Zahid Khan called upon the Sindh government to take bold steps, setting aside all the pressures. "Across the board action to deweaponise the city is inevitable because if weapons are there, nobody can restore peace to Karachi,” Zahid said. He said some quarters were deliberately trying to spoil security situation in the country ahead of Muharrum.

Senator Abdul Ghafoor Haidery of JUI-F condemned the killings of religious seminary students in Karachi. “Situation is forcing the peace-loving citizens to raise arms,” he lamented.

Senator Babar Awan of PPP said uttering mere condemnation words in the House could not solve the problem. He strongly criticised the ministry of interior that, according to him, was just relying on written directions and warnings instead of some concrete action. “Today, it is proved that the state has failed to fulfil its primary obligation of protecting lives of its citizens,” he said. “We are fast losing grip on Karachi, while Balochistan is fast becoming a stateless society. It seems Balochistan is no more a part of Pakistan,” he said. He flayed the government for a cold-shoulder response it extended to the top Baloch leader who recently visited Pakistan after ending his self- exile.
 
I watched Najem Sethi interview last night , he is off the opinion this Karachi unrest situation is created to call the army in Karachi so that North Waziristan operation can be halted.
 
I watched Najem Sethi interview last night , he is off the opinion this Karachi unrest situation is created to call the army in Karachi so that North Waziristan operation can be halted.
Well ! Yup, It would be better if army don't interfere in Karachi's matters anymore as they let thousands people dead, Let Karachi burn for few more decades, until the half of its population migrates to other areas, Nice approach of MQM followers.
 
yeah right every one is a traitor when it comes to Taliban sympathizers and supporters
Most of Incidents are happening in Nazimabad, ancholi, Hyderi, University road ,Gulshan-Iqbal and Disco more areas, Only A one nice raid in these areas would be enough to end Killers, It would be better to stablize Karachi (Economical Hub) first, after all its your own actual internal matter. Right?
 
It's best the Army stays out of this mess. Our nation and their new found obsession with conspiracy theories will just cook up a new crackpot version of the events and post it on Facebook where thousands of pseudo-intellectuals will jerk off to the notion that the Army was deployed to Karachi to aid in American Naval Landings or some other bullshit like that.

In a nutshell, the Army should very politely turn this demand down and let the Police deal with it. No need risking men and material for a cause that will just earn them more critics.
 
It's best the Army stays out of this mess. Our nation and their new found obsession with conspiracy theories will just cook up a new crackpot version of the events and post it on Facebook where thousands of pseudo-intellectuals will jerk off to the notion that the Army was deployed to Karachi to aid in American Naval Landings or some other bullshit like that.

In a nutshell, the Army should very politely turn this demand down and let the Police deal with it. No need risking men and material for a cause that will just earn them more critics.
So Army do scares from critics? :what:
 
It's best the Army stays out of this mess. Our nation and their new found obsession with conspiracy theories will just cook up a new crackpot version of the events and post it on Facebook where thousands of pseudo-intellectuals will jerk off to the notion that the Army was deployed to Karachi to aid in American Naval Landings or some other bullshit like that.

In a nutshell, the Army should very politely turn this demand down and let the Police deal with it. No need risking men and material for a cause that will just earn them more critics.

But is police able to deal with it?

I mean, for all these days they've been unable to do anything.

Do you guys have something like our CRPF? A unit between Army and police?

Why not deploy them?
 
But is police able to deal with it?

I mean, for all these days they've been unable to do anything.

Do you guys have something like our CRPF? A unit between Army and police?
Why not deploy them?

RANGERS
already deployed.


Army should stay out of it.
 
Its job of civilian administeration NOT army. Law and order does not come under its domain neither responsibility. We should be thankful to them for doing job of the incompetent govt and civilian admins in some areas.
and Wat If Para-military(Rangers) ,Police and Civil administration failed to control it? Yup U.S orders are required for that? Right?
 
It's best the Army stays out of this mess. Our nation and their new found obsession with conspiracy theories will just cook up a new crackpot version of the events and post it on Facebook where thousands of pseudo-intellectuals will jerk off to the notion that the Army was deployed to Karachi to aid in American Naval Landings or some other bullshit like that.

In a nutshell, the Army should very politely turn this demand down and let the Police deal with it. No need risking men and material for a cause that will just earn them more critics.

Karachi is a living hell with people being terrorized by political parties. It's all politics that has ruined Karachi, once a peaceful and prospering city of lights. Quetta however, needs military action. The militants in Balochistan need to be taken care of, I get to see video footage and pictures daily of those men (BLA-BRA) killing innocent civilians (and military personnel) cold-blooded. When they kill the civilians, the video emerges as Pakistan Army killing innocent Balochis, but when they kill Army-men, the video emerges as freedom fighters or unknown people killing the Army-men.

Both Quetta's and Karachi's miscreants need to be engaged; however Quetta has no choice but Military operation and control (for while) while Karachi yet can be solved by Political negotiations. If the latter doesn't work, then operation is crucial. (However, don't forget here that the Political Militants are totally prepared for engaging on with Army, their arms include 14.5mm AA guns, armor-piercing bullets and over 50,000 RPG-7s. I would not be surprised to see any sort of Anti-Tank weapon.)
 
So Army do scares from critics? :what:

It's my personal view, It's not endorsed by the Military.

That is so because I feel our people are becoming more and more hostile towards the military to express their new found "Freedom of Thought" if nothing else. Yesterday I was disgusted to read comments by a guy on a Shaheed Captain's Facebook Page that he did not deserve to be remembered because he got paid to die by the GoP and instead people should pay attention to the civilians killed in Terrorism incidents.
Whereas my deepest sympathies lie with the Civilians killed in this conflict, I was disgusted to read that somebody can actually think that a 24 year old's life is worth 32,000 rupees a month. Do these people think that Soldiers do their job for measly pay and a nomadic lifestyle? Do they do it because they don't love their parents and would like to leave them without any security for their old age if he gets killed? Does he feel no affection for his wife and kids who he leaves for years? Does he not care for the joys of life as he spends his in isolated places where a man would wish for his enemy to go?
Anybody who joins the services, does it out of his commitment to the nation and respect, if his own nation disowns him and refuses to grant him an ounce of respect, it would only take a fool to still risk his life on a daily basis for the same thankless lot.

But is police able to deal with it?

I mean, for all these days they've been unable to do anything.

Do you guys have something like our CRPF? A unit between Army and police?

Why not deploy them?


The Rangers have deployed to Karachi but these guys were never trained for policing duties, they get harsh and people cry foul, they don't get harsh and people cry of complacency.
 

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