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Hasbara trolls, just like the Indian RSS trolls, are pre programed bots. You cannot have a logical and meaningful debate with them. Most of them do get paid though by their "establishments". Its all part of perception war and psyop.
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Chancellor Jorge Faurie said that the Casa Rosada did not intervene in the suspension of the match between the national team and Israel.Credit: Ignacio Sanchez
Mariano Obarrio
june 6, 2018 • 15:05
After the suspension of the soccer match between the Argentine national team and his pair from Israel, the government of Mauricio Macri let it be known that the Foreign Ministry had warned the Argentine Football Association (AFA), which is headed by Claudio "Chiqui" Tapia, who the decision to change the seat of the Haifa party to Jerusalem could have a political "high sensitivity" for the historic conflict between Israel and Palestine.
"We can not take responsibility for the decisions of the AFA and the Government does not have competition in the organization or in the cancellation of the meeting, which was carried out by a decision of the players," sources from the Foreign Ministry told LA NACION. of the Casa Rosada.
Regarding the decision of the Argentine national team not to visit the Pope Francisco because of logistics problems in travel, the Casa Rosada ignored the matter and did not express any opinion. "We do not know how the invitation was created or the cancellation of the visit to the Pope, it is a matter between the Vatican and the AFA," said Baclarce 50 officials.
Instead, the officials stressed that "when they changed the headquarters of the party between Argentina and Israel from Haifa to Jerusalem, the Foreign Ministry warned them that because of the status of the latter city, under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, that decision could generate a high political sensitivity for the historical conflict that exists there and it was not convenient ".However, they emphasized that "the final decision was taken by the AFA."
This information was confirmed this morning by Foreign Minister Jorge Faurie in radio statements. "When he took the public state that went to Jerusalem, what we did was to make contact with AFA to alert them of the sensitivities and delicacy that he had, even because it could involve security aspects in this transfer from one place to another," said the minister. Foreign Relations and Cult.
"I understand that AFA had contracted commitments that made them maintain the scheme," Faurie added. "Now they themselves made this assessment for the concern of the players," he said, in relation to the decision to cancel the game.
"The Foreign Ministry did not intervene in the organization of the party, we were not the ones who set up the place or made the decision that there would be a transfer from Haifa to Jerusalem," the foreign minister said.
He also noted that "always the fact that a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity between them is not good". And he considered that "the players of the selection before a series of threats that came by way of Internet and a whole image that was created negative by the fact that they played in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they have preferred not to do this match"
Faurie said that "I also understand that the AFA board asked them to try to concentrate mainly on the preparation of the match that will begin next week".
On the other hand it seemed to throw a veiled criticism on the decision of the players of the selection when it indicated that "whenever the decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort is not good". To which he added that "it is a pity that this was complicated." The party was initially planned to take place in the port of Haifa, for some reason this was later changed to a stadium in Jerusalem and this is what it raised the restlessness ".
"The messages circulating were unfavorable," said Faurie.
He also revealed the conversation between President Macri and his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu, and confirmed that the Israeli president tried to convince Macri to convince the national team to reconsider his position. "I know that President Netanyahu called, I imagine, to make some kind of request that could be reconsidered, but this is a decision that the AFA made," Faurie said.
"Each one has to accept the responsibilities he has in the decision-making process, and the distinction between the public sector of the private sector and the AFA is an independent entity," the foreign minister said.
By: Mariano Obarrio
- Thursday, June 07, 2018
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The Argentina newspaper La Nacion has covered the story about their team planning to play in Israel and how they changed their minds - and it is pretty clear that the death threats against the players, primarily Messi, is what caused the country to cave.
A noisy but small protest outside where the players were practicing was the subject ofa story on Tuesday, before the decision. Bloody team jerseys and loud horns dominated the protest that the players could hear. The paper pointed out that some of the protesters were Muslim.
The bloody shirts were an obvious threat.
The foreign ministry came out with a statement after the Argentina Football Association made its decision, distancing itself from the decision, but mentioning the threats:
"It is always the fact that it is not good when a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity....the players of the selection faced a series of threats that came by way of Internet giving them a negative image by the fact that they were to play in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they preferred not to do this match... It is not good whenever a decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort".
An op-ed writer, Gabriel Chocron, was more explicit:
A political leader thirsty for publicity managed to turn this sports party into a victory for fear, threats and terrorism. Jibril Rajoub, current president of the Palestinian Football Federation, unscrupulously threatened Argentine players - and Lionel Messi in particular - that they would become enemies of Muslims around the world for participating in the friendly against Israel. Rajoub drove a sad campaign of intimidation and threats to the players and their families, to the point that they felt fear for their physical integrity.
Chocron ends off with:
Beyond the opinion that each one may have in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the cancellation of this party is a victory for hatred, fear and terrorism. The World Cup has not started yet, but the Argentine national team has already lost its first points.
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A lose is a Lose... Israel "Soft-Power" went to the drain...The Government takes distance from the decisions of the AFA
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Chancellor Jorge Faurie said that the Casa Rosada did not intervene in the suspension of the match between the national team and Israel.Credit: Ignacio Sanchez
Mariano Obarrio
june 6, 2018 • 15:05
After the suspension of the soccer match between the Argentine national team and his pair from Israel, the government of Mauricio Macri let it be known that the Foreign Ministry had warned the Argentine Football Association (AFA), which is headed by Claudio "Chiqui" Tapia, who the decision to change the seat of the Haifa party to Jerusalem could have a political "high sensitivity" for the historic conflict between Israel and Palestine.
"We can not take responsibility for the decisions of the AFA and the Government does not have competition in the organization or in the cancellation of the meeting, which was carried out by a decision of the players," sources from the Foreign Ministry told LA NACION. of the Casa Rosada.
Regarding the decision of the Argentine national team not to visit the Pope Francisco because of logistics problems in travel, the Casa Rosada ignored the matter and did not express any opinion. "We do not know how the invitation was created or the cancellation of the visit to the Pope, it is a matter between the Vatican and the AFA," said Baclarce 50 officials.
Instead, the officials stressed that "when they changed the headquarters of the party between Argentina and Israel from Haifa to Jerusalem, the Foreign Ministry warned them that because of the status of the latter city, under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, that decision could generate a high political sensitivity for the historical conflict that exists there and it was not convenient ".However, they emphasized that "the final decision was taken by the AFA."
This information was confirmed this morning by Foreign Minister Jorge Faurie in radio statements. "When he took the public state that went to Jerusalem, what we did was to make contact with AFA to alert them of the sensitivities and delicacy that he had, even because it could involve security aspects in this transfer from one place to another," said the minister. Foreign Relations and Cult.
"I understand that AFA had contracted commitments that made them maintain the scheme," Faurie added. "Now they themselves made this assessment for the concern of the players," he said, in relation to the decision to cancel the game.
"The Foreign Ministry did not intervene in the organization of the party, we were not the ones who set up the place or made the decision that there would be a transfer from Haifa to Jerusalem," the foreign minister said.
He also noted that "always the fact that a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity between them is not good". And he considered that "the players of the selection before a series of threats that came by way of Internet and a whole image that was created negative by the fact that they played in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they have preferred not to do this match"
Faurie said that "I also understand that the AFA board asked them to try to concentrate mainly on the preparation of the match that will begin next week".
On the other hand it seemed to throw a veiled criticism on the decision of the players of the selection when it indicated that "whenever the decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort is not good". To which he added that "it is a pity that this was complicated." The party was initially planned to take place in the port of Haifa, for some reason this was later changed to a stadium in Jerusalem and this is what it raised the restlessness ".
"The messages circulating were unfavorable," said Faurie.
He also revealed the conversation between President Macri and his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu, and confirmed that the Israeli president tried to convince Macri to convince the national team to reconsider his position. "I know that President Netanyahu called, I imagine, to make some kind of request that could be reconsidered, but this is a decision that the AFA made," Faurie said.
"Each one has to accept the responsibilities he has in the decision-making process, and the distinction between the public sector of the private sector and the AFA is an independent entity," the foreign minister said.
By: Mariano Obarrio
Argentina pretty much admits that death threats against players prompted quitting Israel match
- Thursday, June 07, 2018
The Argentina newspaper La Nacion has covered the story about their team planning to play in Israel and how they changed their minds - and it is pretty clear that the death threats against the players, primarily Messi, is what caused the country to cave.
A noisy but small protest outside where the players were practicing was the subject ofa story on Tuesday, before the decision. Bloody team jerseys and loud horns dominated the protest that the players could hear. The paper pointed out that some of the protesters were Muslim.
The bloody shirts were an obvious threat.
The foreign ministry came out with a statement after the Argentina Football Association made its decision, distancing itself from the decision, but mentioning the threats:
"It is always the fact that it is not good when a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity....the players of the selection faced a series of threats that came by way of Internet giving them a negative image by the fact that they were to play in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they preferred not to do this match... It is not good whenever a decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort".
An op-ed writer, Gabriel Chocron, was more explicit:
A political leader thirsty for publicity managed to turn this sports party into a victory for fear, threats and terrorism. Jibril Rajoub, current president of the Palestinian Football Federation, unscrupulously threatened Argentine players - and Lionel Messi in particular - that they would become enemies of Muslims around the world for participating in the friendly against Israel. Rajoub drove a sad campaign of intimidation and threats to the players and their families, to the point that they felt fear for their physical integrity.
Chocron ends off with:
Beyond the opinion that each one may have in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the cancellation of this party is a victory for hatred, fear and terrorism. The World Cup has not started yet, but the Argentine national team has already lost its first points.
Accept it...no need to "search" for "appeasing conditions"...
Ps: Please keep the Gov out of the Equation... No one said "Argentina Gov refused to..."
We all know it's a Fed/Players decision...
Play it fair... at least once in your life... I understand it's sometimes difficult... but you gonna get used to it...
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Israel will be looking forward to easy qualification in future World Cups.
- Home Games played in Jerusalem.
- Opponents do not turn up.
- Israel wins half their qualification games by 3-0.
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Who lost here? As pointed out, Jibroub "won" by crossing an important line, openly threatening non-Zionist Westerners with bloody violence in support of the "Palestinian" cause. Do you know what happened to all the other terror leaders and groups who did that, from the 1970s to the 2003 invasion of Iraq?
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The same old... "Terror card"...
The thing that got this match stopped is the Twitter/Social media backlash that fell under every Argentinian player... and with such pressure, they choose to let down...Simple as that...
Israeli are not that into Football... At least compared to the other side...
So yeah... It's always better to put the blame on others... don't you think... That make you feel more "Victimized"...
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Isreal needs to stop the violence against unarmed Palestinian and apologize to them , and give them their land back .. learn from your own history Jews it won't be late when yahwe will drive you out in the wilderness as punishment .
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oh well if the elders if zion said it, it's a neutral source.The Government takes distance from the decisions of the AFA
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Chancellor Jorge Faurie said that the Casa Rosada did not intervene in the suspension of the match between the national team and Israel.Credit: Ignacio Sanchez
Mariano Obarrio
june 6, 2018 • 15:05
After the suspension of the soccer match between the Argentine national team and his pair from Israel, the government of Mauricio Macri let it be known that the Foreign Ministry had warned the Argentine Football Association (AFA), which is headed by Claudio "Chiqui" Tapia, who the decision to change the seat of the Haifa party to Jerusalem could have a political "high sensitivity" for the historic conflict between Israel and Palestine.
"We can not take responsibility for the decisions of the AFA and the Government does not have competition in the organization or in the cancellation of the meeting, which was carried out by a decision of the players," sources from the Foreign Ministry told LA NACION. of the Casa Rosada.
Regarding the decision of the Argentine national team not to visit the Pope Francisco because of logistics problems in travel, the Casa Rosada ignored the matter and did not express any opinion. "We do not know how the invitation was created or the cancellation of the visit to the Pope, it is a matter between the Vatican and the AFA," said Baclarce 50 officials.
Instead, the officials stressed that "when they changed the headquarters of the party between Argentina and Israel from Haifa to Jerusalem, the Foreign Ministry warned them that because of the status of the latter city, under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, that decision could generate a high political sensitivity for the historical conflict that exists there and it was not convenient ".However, they emphasized that "the final decision was taken by the AFA."
This information was confirmed this morning by Foreign Minister Jorge Faurie in radio statements. "When he took the public state that went to Jerusalem, what we did was to make contact with AFA to alert them of the sensitivities and delicacy that he had, even because it could involve security aspects in this transfer from one place to another," said the minister. Foreign Relations and Cult.
"I understand that AFA had contracted commitments that made them maintain the scheme," Faurie added. "Now they themselves made this assessment for the concern of the players," he said, in relation to the decision to cancel the game.
"The Foreign Ministry did not intervene in the organization of the party, we were not the ones who set up the place or made the decision that there would be a transfer from Haifa to Jerusalem," the foreign minister said.
He also noted that "always the fact that a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity between them is not good". And he considered that "the players of the selection before a series of threats that came by way of Internet and a whole image that was created negative by the fact that they played in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they have preferred not to do this match"
Faurie said that "I also understand that the AFA board asked them to try to concentrate mainly on the preparation of the match that will begin next week".
On the other hand it seemed to throw a veiled criticism on the decision of the players of the selection when it indicated that "whenever the decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort is not good". To which he added that "it is a pity that this was complicated." The party was initially planned to take place in the port of Haifa, for some reason this was later changed to a stadium in Jerusalem and this is what it raised the restlessness ".
"The messages circulating were unfavorable," said Faurie.
He also revealed the conversation between President Macri and his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu, and confirmed that the Israeli president tried to convince Macri to convince the national team to reconsider his position. "I know that President Netanyahu called, I imagine, to make some kind of request that could be reconsidered, but this is a decision that the AFA made," Faurie said.
"Each one has to accept the responsibilities he has in the decision-making process, and the distinction between the public sector of the private sector and the AFA is an independent entity," the foreign minister said.
By: Mariano Obarrio
Argentina pretty much admits that death threats against players prompted quitting Israel match
- Thursday, June 07, 2018
The Argentina newspaper La Nacion has covered the story about their team planning to play in Israel and how they changed their minds - and it is pretty clear that the death threats against the players, primarily Messi, is what caused the country to cave.
A noisy but small protest outside where the players were practicing was the subject ofa story on Tuesday, before the decision. Bloody team jerseys and loud horns dominated the protest that the players could hear. The paper pointed out that some of the protesters were Muslim.
The bloody shirts were an obvious threat.
The foreign ministry came out with a statement after the Argentina Football Association made its decision, distancing itself from the decision, but mentioning the threats:
"It is always the fact that it is not good when a sporting event awakens a situation of animosity....the players of the selection faced a series of threats that came by way of Internet giving them a negative image by the fact that they were to play in Israel, they have felt restless and therefore they preferred not to do this match... It is not good whenever a decision arises from threats or a situation of discomfort".
An op-ed writer, Gabriel Chocron, was more explicit:
A political leader thirsty for publicity managed to turn this sports party into a victory for fear, threats and terrorism. Jibril Rajoub, current president of the Palestinian Football Federation, unscrupulously threatened Argentine players - and Lionel Messi in particular - that they would become enemies of Muslims around the world for participating in the friendly against Israel. Rajoub drove a sad campaign of intimidation and threats to the players and their families, to the point that they felt fear for their physical integrity.
Chocron ends off with:
Beyond the opinion that each one may have in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the cancellation of this party is a victory for hatred, fear and terrorism. The World Cup has not started yet, but the Argentine national team has already lost its first points.
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Face saving won't help israel...
They didn't turn up because Netanyahu politicised the game by trying to shift it to Jerusalem and slaughter of unarmed Palestinians by an apartheid israel
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Except that Lionel Messi never said that...
https://www.afp.com/fr/infos/327/fa...ens-innocents-il-na-jamais-dit-ca-doc-15p1r51
Google Translate:
Fact-checking - Messi says he does not want to "play against people who kill innocent Palestinian children"?
He never said that Lionel Messi reportedly told Argentine TV channel TyC Sports that he "can not play against people who are killing innocent Palestinian children" following the cancellation of the friendly match between Argentina and Israel, scheduled for Saturday in Jerusalem ?
This is false, the player did not give any interview to this media.
WHAT DOES IT CHECK?
The star of the Argentine team reportedly told TyC Sports: "As a UNICEF ambassador, I can not play against people who kill innocent Palestinian children, we had to cancel the match because we are human beings before being football players ". This sentence has been published, extensively commented and shared several thousand times on Facebook.
WHAT DO KNOW?
Tyco Sports' special envoy to the Argentina team currently preparing for the World Cup in Russia in Barcelona, reporter Martin Arevalo denied on Wednesday night on Twitter that the player had made such comments. "What you are writing is wrong, Messi has not spoken to any media and not with TyC Sports about it."
"In this preparation, Messi does not speak to the press," the journalist wrote in response. to a highly relayed tweet having spread the quote.
Moreover, Leo Messi, fivefold Ballon d'Or and already long considered one of the best players in history, is not customary political statements or phrases shock. Like many world stars, his communication is extremely framed and careful. And his extracurricular engagements - he is a traveling ambassador of Unicef - are on consensual ground, a thousand miles from a subject as abrasive as the Israeli-Palestinian question.
Palestinian President Jibril Rajoub had urged Messi not to play Saturday in Jerusalem, halling on the Palestinians to "burn" his jersey if he did. Following the cancellation of the match, however, he held a press conference Wednesday in front of a photo where he poses with Lionel Messi with the words "Since Palestine, thank you Messi".
WHAT CAN BE CONCLUDED?
This statement never existed.
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- Thursday, June 07, 2018
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As I was looking at articles in Argentina about the soccer controversy, I came across a pithy anecdote mentioned by a writer for La Nacion, Andrés Malamud:
"The problem in the Middle East is that Israel is a racist state." With the theater full, the phrase is received without ovations or whistles. After all, Portugal is "a country of gentle customs". Here they never shout much, neither in favor nor against. Ilan Pappé, an Israeli historian who is self-exiled in England for being a critic of his country, finishes the speech and begins the round of questions. I raise my hand before anyone else and inquire if there is any state in the Middle East that is not racist. His response deafened an audience that was already silent: "that's not the problem".
The problem is not racism. The problem is Israel. It is understood.
There you have the entire arena of double standards, delegitimization and demonization against Israel in a single sentence.
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i cant belive pepole belive he said that
the reason argentina schdule to israel is one money second messi wish.
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i cant belive pepole belive he said that
the reason argentina schdule to israel is one money second messi wish.
3rd the players didn't want to play in a evil brutal apartheid state
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