Are Sikhs Hindus or Muslims?

[asad71]

Of course Sikhs are Sikhs. But the wily Nehru has, on the quiet, made the Sikhs as well as Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos, etc Hindus in the Constitution of India. If we accept Zakir Nair's arguments, then in the literal sense, the original concept of Sikhism is nearer to Islam than to Hinduism.

 

[he-man]

Guru nanak was a born hindu..........his father was a hindu.
There is no point of this discussion but debate is good.

 

[ebrahym]

Of course Sikhs are Sikhs. But the wily Nehru has, on the quiet, made the Sikhs as well as Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos, etc Hindus in the Constitution of India. If we accept Zakir Nair's arguments, then in the literal sense, the original concept of Sikhism is nearer to Islam than to Hinduism.

@waz i dont think we should let this thread continue

 

[nik141993]

Sikh are dharmic people,they believe in concept of reincarnation & dharma,do you beileve in reincarnation @asad71

Of course Sikhs are Sikhs. But the wily Nehru has, on the quiet, made the Sikhs as well as Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos, etc Hindus in the Constitution of India. If we accept Zakir Nair's arguments, then in the literal sense, the original concept of Sikhism is nearer to Islam than to Hinduism.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@asad71

In the GURU GRANTH SAHIB the word HARI and RAM appears thousands of times

Read this

http://www.gobindsadan.org/institut...hibs-universal-community-seminar.html?start=1

Many Holy Names for God, from many different traditions, are used in Sri Guru Granth Sahib.
The Name Hari appears 8344 times, Ram 2533 times, Gopal (Sustainer of the Earth = Krishna) 491 times, Gobind (The One Who takes care of the Earth = Krishna) 475 times, Prabhu 1371 times,

Murari (Enemy of Mur Raksh = Vishnu, Krishna) 97 times, Narayan (The One who prevails in water) 85 times,

Allah 46 times, Bhagwan 30 times, Madhav 27 times, Krishna 22 times, Rab 17 times,

Narsingh (Incarnation of Vishnu with head of tiger and body of man) 16 times, Damodar (Krishna) 15 times, Banwari (Forest One = Krishna) 15 times,

Wahi Guru 13 times, and Madhu Sudan (Krishna) 9 times.

 

[Zibago]

A mixture of both

 

[dray]

Of course Sikhs are Sikhs. But the wily Nehru has, on the quiet, made the Sikhs as well as Buddhists, Jains, Brahmos, etc Hindus in the Constitution of India. If we accept Zakir Nair's arguments, then in the literal sense, the original concept of Sikhism is nearer to Islam than to Hinduism.

The question is if you should accept Zakir Nayek's arguments or not. How many of these arguments below you accept?

https://defence.pk/threads/10-times...d-that-he-promoted-anything-but-peace.441566/

 

[Parul]

Neither Hindus Nor Muslims. Sikhism is an Independent religion Period.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

A mixture of both

98 PERCENT Hindu and TWO percent Muslim

That is why they choose INDIA at the time of partition and left everything behind

They call their most important place of worship as GOLDEN TEMPLE

They wear SAFFRON TURBANS

Neither Hindus Nor Muslims. Sikhism is an Independent Region. Period.

We Hindus dont think so ; For us Sikhs are Hindus

Many Hindus visit Gurudwaras NEAR their houses -- I also do so

Any Hindu who goes to Punjab ; goes to Golden Temple

 

[Parul]

We Hindus dont think so ; For us Sikhs are Hindus

Many Hindus visit Gurudwaras NEAR their houses -- I also do so

Any Hindu who goes to Punjab ; goes to Golden Temple

What you as a Hindu or any other Hindus things doesn't matter to us.

@WAJsal @waz can you please close this thread? Religious discussions are not allowed here.

 

[ito]

Neither Hindus Nor Muslims. Sikhism is an Independent Region. Period.

I mean you want to say religion. Yes. Sikhism is a different religion.

We Hindus dont think so ; For us Sikhs are Hindus

Many Hindus visit Gurudwaras NEAR their houses -- I also do so

Any Hindu who goes to Punjab ; goes to Golden Temple

They are not Hindus. But yes, I have seen many Sikhs have Hindu gods in their homes, and Hindus go to golden temples.

 

[Parul]

I mean you want to say religion. Yes. Sikhism is a different religion.

Thanks for correcting the Typo.

 

[Al-zakir]

Not Muslim but they like to hang out with Muslim.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

What you as a Hindu or any other Hindus things doesn't matter to us.

Believe me IT DOES

It is a Matter of national Security

Do you think that India would have had Sikh PM and TWO Army CHIEFS
IF there was No affinity between Hindus and Sikhs

And also there must be at least 2 lakh Sikhs in Indian Army

Punjab Separatist movement died down ONLY because the Sikhs realised
how foolish The Khalistan demand was and also because they knew that SIKHISM
is FAR FAR closer to Hinduism than any other religion

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What you as a Hindu or any other Hindus things doesn't matter to us.

@WAJsal @waz can you please close this thread? Religious discussions are not allowed here.

I agree. Although you can debate that Sikhism was informed by Hinduism and Islam or it is synthesis of both (the percentage argument is subjective) it does not detract from the fact that Sikhs are Sikhs. They are a organic people and have unique identity as any othew religion.

The dharmic this and that is just plain "grab" by Hindus like they normally do with most things within the borders of British Raj. Judaism, Christianity and Islam share some aspects but noboy says they are same.

And the fact that they went the India had more do with politics and power play rather than their feeling buddies with Hindus. That also could be applied to Parsi and Christians who mostly went with India.