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It's best to ask qualified Islamic scholars on Music and other matters. The reason is if they on purpose misguide you then they will be held accountable. Do not make innocent PDF members accountable please.

From listening to different scholars, I heard different opinions. Some are very strict against all musical instruments because people misuse the gatherings and others consider daff, qawali, nasheed as fine, they say that these days Haram music is everywhere and people are moving away from Islam so they say Nasheeds, Qawalli, Daff poetry is fine as long as you dont do Haram acts.
Keep in mind, the daff is a musical instrument and it was used by small girls in front of Prophet peace be upon him.

Also as some brother mentioned, Islamic history had certain extent of light music. The Ottomans invented the Musical Band, these days every single muslim nation uses Army Band, Guard of honour band, National Anthem etc.

Lastly I hear many brothers mention things like. I dont follow any group, I dont follow any Fiqh, I dont follow any scholars, I only follow the way of Prophet peace be upon him. This sounds very attractive but this not the correct way. The Quran and Hadith that came to us was collected and compiled in to books by the great Islamic scholars, they decided which hadith is fine and which is weak, they translated the Quran, they are the ones who made the 4 fiqhs because Prophet peace be upon him at times did different things, these things are proven through hadith. This is how all the fitna and challenges were sorted and Islam became strong because millions of new muslims converted to Islam and they didnt need to start from the scratch. All the different hadith and opinions were already separated in to 4 different fiqhs until the 21st century.

The sad situation of the 21st century is people are moving away from the classical scholars and are claiming we follow directly Prophet peace be upon him but in reality we are only follow the texts which are translated by 21st century Facebook scholars. I know in the 21st century it is very confusing but the Islam that was here for 1400years is the correct Islam. We dont need any new modern Islam. We just need some brain cells, be humans and educate ourselves. The Ummah will grow again. Instead Ummah is chasing the dunya and then some dare to claim we need new modern Islam.

Imagine every new Pakistani child is born and he/she starts to learn science and technology from scratch and does not learn anything from our current scientific research. He/she will die before they even have any break through and so will the next generation. The same goes with any other subject. It's like throwing all the research PAF has done in the bin every 10 years and start again from the beginning, just because we think we are better than the old PAF people or we have more money.

You are right, I will refrain from making these type of posts, it seems some members here got into unnecessary arguments. I did get my answer though, although next time I will ask a scholar or the imam at the masjid.

Rest assured brother, Allah has perfected this faith, and it will be successful in the end regardless of the minor disagreements.
 
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Is there only 1 path to Allah? If you pray asar at the shafi time rather than the hanafi time will it be accepted? If you perform 8 tarawi rather than 20 will they be accepted?

Both examples are considered valid by all sunni scholars. I have only used sunni because I don't have knowledge of shia fiqh. Islam has multiple accepted paths. The differences are not matters that impact whether someone is Muslim or not.

I agree with you brother. Sunni Muslims accept all 4 fiqhs because our great classical Islamic scholars compiled all different hadiths with different opinions in to different fiqhs. So in reality the fiqhs are based on the difference of opinions within the hadiths. They have done great favour upon us thank to Allah almighty.

One thing to beware of is that these days certain Muslims and scholars twist the hadith meanings and then claim this is a valid different opinion in Islam. But in reality they are just making things up. This is a big fitna because normal public do not understand this situation.
 
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What is the opinion on Nasheeds if any brother here has knowledge, I tried searching the web but came short.

I know the Prophet didn't like poets and poetry, but at the same time he allowed the poets in medina to poeticize Islam as a counter towards those who were demonising it through poetry. So I am thinking that Nasheeds are ok, because it praises Islam, but at the same time I am not too sure.

Poetry is haram if it is " Thori phis gai hai tori paat gai hai meri vaal di kameez thori paat gai hai."

Poetry is ok if it is "Chashme naam, jaan i shorida kafi nahi, tuhmaat i ishaq poshida kaafi nahi>"

Your intentions are the main thing.

In Nasheeds you glorify Allah's Prophet SAW. I think there is nothing wrong in them.
 
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Yes and I meant it like that. These sects are a mockery of the original religion. I'm sunni but I follow what the messenger taught. This goes for others too like shias and wahhabis.

Brother, are you declaring takfir on people who are not like you based on their aqeedah i assume?
 
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`Umar came to the Mosque while Hassan was reciting a poem. (`Umar disapproved of that). On that Hassan said, "I used to recite poetry in this very Mosque in the presence of one (i.e. the Prophet (ﷺ) ) who was better than you." Then he turned towards Abu Huraira and said (to him), "I ask you by Allah, did you hear Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying (to me), "Retort on my behalf. O Allah! Support him (i.e. Hassan) with the Holy Spirit?" Abu Huraira said, "Yes."


حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، حَدَّثَنَا الزُّهْرِيُّ، عَنْ سَعِيدِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، قَالَ مَرَّ عُمَرُ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ وَحَسَّانُ يُنْشِدُ، فَقَالَ كُنْتُ أُنْشِدُ فِيهِ، وَفِيهِ مَنْ هُوَ خَيْرٌ مِنْكَ، ثُمَّ الْتَفَتَ إِلَى أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، فَقَالَ أَنْشُدُكَ بِاللَّهِ، أَسَمِعْتَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ ‏ "‏ أَجِبْ عَنِّي، اللَّهُمَّ أَيِّدْهُ بِرُوحِ الْقُدُسِ ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ نَعَمْ‏.‏
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3212
In-book reference : Book 59, Hadith 23
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 434
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Poetry in general is discouraged in Islam and music is banned. Naats and Hamd should be without music and should not include shirk.
 
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Brother, are you declaring takfir on people who are not like you based on their aqeedah i assume?
I merely saying people should drop this sect thing and go back to being Muslim not sunni, Shia, Sufi, and whatnot.
 
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What is the opinion on Nasheeds if any brother here has knowledge, I tried searching the web but came short.

I know the Prophet didn't like poets and poetry, but at the same time he allowed the poets in medina to poeticize Islam as a counter towards those who were demonising it through poetry. So I am thinking that Nasheeds are ok, because it praises Islam, but at the same time I am not too sure.

Why should a brother be worried about what others may or may not listen to?
 
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What is the difference between a sunni and a muslim?
The difference could be marginal, I'm still studying but what I mean ie why does it exist in the first place, if there is no difference? Why create divisions?
 
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The difference could be marginal, I'm still studying but what I mean ie why does it exist in the first place, if there is no difference? Why create divisions?

Brother, please continue to study. You will find these labels are identity, not division. Division is the work of those with ill intention.
 
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Why should a brother be worried about what others may or may not listen to?
Will you advise your Brother/ Sister/Mother / Father... on something that you may feel inappropriate/wrong according to your common belief?
 
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Will you advise your Brother/ Sister/Mother / Father... on something that you may feel inappropriate/wrong according to your common belief?

Beliefs are personal and should remain so. I would trust others to make the same decisions for themselves as I do for myself, since forcing one's own beliefs on others is wrong.
 
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What is the opinion on Nasheeds if any brother here has knowledge, I tried searching the web but came short.

I know the Prophet didn't like poets and poetry, but at the same time he allowed the poets in medina to poeticize Islam as a counter towards those who were demonising it through poetry. So I am thinking that Nasheeds are ok, because it praises Islam, but at the same time I am not too sure.

Religious discussion/debate is not allowed.
 
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