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What does real islam has to say about it not this messed up 100 sects that there are, nowadays

I don't know what is real Islam to you.

1.Hanafi Sunnis inspired by Sufis
2.Hanafi Sunnis Inspired by Salafi Wahhabis.

These are 2 "real Islam" practice by almost 90% Pakistanis.

You chose your real Islam and then come again to me.
 
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I don't know what is real Islam to you.

1.Hanafi Sunnis inspired by Sufis
2.Hanafi Sunnis Inspired by Salafi Wahhabis.

These are 2 "real Islam" practice by almost 90% Pakistanis.

You chose your real Islam and then come again to me.
Islam that our prophet(peace be upon him) taught not the mockery that is today. With shias, Sunnis, wahabies and whatnot.
 
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Islam that our prophet(peace be upon him) taught not the mockery that is today. With shias, Sunnis, wahabies and whatnot.


I posted the link which mentioned Tafsir of ayat and comments from Sahaba (ra), read it.

2nd, my post got nothing to do with 100 sects, I only talked about Sunnis, all Sunni claim to follow the path of Prophet (saww). I cannot answer about Shia but as far as I know they also consider music Haram.

point is Insisting on Haram deed by calling it halal is bigger sin. It's probably bigger sin then hearing Haram. (Allah knows best) but you should read what Ulema says about declearing Haram as Halal.
 
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Proove to me those are real Islams?

You should prove otherwise.
Well, all Sunni claim to follow the path of Prophet (saww) i.e Quran and Sunnah.

The real Islam is in inverted comma bcoz he @Pakhtoon yum said he want real Islam not 100 sects.
 
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Gents, think about the weight of your words. When you label one thing real Islam, you inadvertently declare the rest fake.
 
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Can we have more than ONE Ultimate Truth?
Is there only 1 path to Allah? If you pray asar at the shafi time rather than the hanafi time will it be accepted? If you perform 8 tarawi rather than 20 will they be accepted?

Both examples are considered valid by all sunni scholars. I have only used sunni because I don't have knowledge of shia fiqh. Islam has multiple accepted paths. The differences are not matters that impact whether someone is Muslim or not.
 
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Nope. There is only one. The one I say. Rest have strayed.
Couscous with fish or... Couscous with Merguez?

Is there only 1 path to Allah? If you pray asar at the shafi time rather than the hanafi time will it be accepted? If you perform 8 tarawi rather than 20 will they be accepted?

Both examples are considered valid by all sunni scholars. I have only used sunni because I don't have knowledge of shia fiqh. Islam has multiple accepted paths. The differences are not matters that impact whether someone is Muslim or not.

Truth isn't about Fiqh in Sunni... Since everyone of them belong to a common understandable category...
But mostly in "Sunni vs others..."

Musulman (-isation) isn't based on Fiqh... Therefore there is no need to find the Ultimate Truth in that specific department.
 
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Gents, think about the weight of your words. When you label one thing real Islam, you inadvertently declare the rest fake.
Yes and I meant it like that. These sects are a mockery of the original religion. I'm sunni but I follow what the messenger taught. This goes for others too like shias and wahhabis.
 
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It's best to ask qualified Islamic scholars on Music and other matters. The reason is if they on purpose misguide you then they will be held accountable. Do not make innocent PDF members accountable please.

From listening to different scholars, I heard different opinions. Some are very strict against all musical instruments because people misuse the gatherings and others consider daff, qawali, nasheed as fine, they say that these days Haram music is everywhere and people are moving away from Islam so they say Nasheeds, Qawalli, Daff poetry is fine as long as you dont do Haram acts.
Keep in mind, the daff is a musical instrument and it was used by small girls in front of Prophet peace be upon him.

Also as some brother mentioned, Islamic history had certain extent of light music. The Ottomans invented the Musical Band, these days every single muslim nation uses Army Band, Guard of honour band, National Anthem etc.

Lastly I hear many brothers mention things like. I dont follow any group, I dont follow any Fiqh, I dont follow any scholars, I only follow the way of Prophet peace be upon him. This sounds very attractive but this not the correct way. The Quran and Hadith that came to us was collected and compiled in to books by the great Islamic scholars, they decided which hadith is fine and which is weak, they translated the Quran, they are the ones who made the 4 fiqhs because Prophet peace be upon him at times did different things, these things are proven through hadith. This is how all the fitna and challenges were sorted and Islam became strong because millions of new muslims converted to Islam and they didnt need to start from the scratch. All the different hadith and opinions were already separated in to 4 different fiqhs until the 21st century.

The sad situation of the 21st century is people are moving away from the classical scholars and are claiming we follow directly Prophet peace be upon him but in reality we are only follow the texts which are translated by 21st century Facebook scholars. I know in the 21st century it is very confusing but the Islam that was here for 1400years is the correct Islam. We dont need any new modern Islam. We just need some brain cells, be humans and educate ourselves. The Ummah will grow again. Instead Ummah is chasing the dunya and then some dare to claim we need new modern Islam.

Imagine every new Pakistani child is born and he/she starts to learn science and technology from scratch and does not learn anything from our current scientific research. He/she will die before they even have any break through and so will the next generation. The same goes with any other subject. It's like throwing all the research PAF has done in the bin every 10 years and start again from the beginning, just because we think we are better than the old PAF people or we have more money.
 
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If music is there and the words involve shirk or romantic poetry than they are not allowed.
 
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