Are all Sayyid (Syed in South Asia) Shia's or former Shia's?

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No, never touched alcohol in my life. I tried qat once though. But it is harmless if you don't chew it each day for years or in large amounts.

Qat? i bet even chars/hash grown in afghanistan n FATA gets u more high than tht..

Is alcohol not banned in Pakistan?

Only if u dnt have money or most important "contacts"..

old pic ... ps the coke aint mind:

Iraqi style 3 kings? Do you mean Arak?

Na capt Said.. or Saïd Taghmaoui...

 

[KingMamba]

BUTTstrong, I command you (LOL) to post a picture of a beautiful Kashmiri Muslim girl to make me forget your earlier mistake by posting that monster I was forced to look at.

NO such thing bro @Armstrong

 

[al-Hasani]

Qat? i bet even chars/hash grown in afghanistan n FATA gets u more high than tht..



Only if u dnt have money or most important "contacts"..

old pic ... ps the coke aint mind:

Na capt Said.. or Saïd Taghmaoui...

7abibi stay away from alcohol and weapons at the same time. We don't want anything bad to happen.

Qat is a very mild stimulant ("drug"). Harmless overall if not used in big quantities each single day for years. It is nearly not addictive at all. Less than alcohol and tobacco.

It is just green leafs that you chew. It is basically like drinking a Red Bull, LOL. The main problem is if it is used in each social gathering as in some places in Yemen and if it is cultivated instead of actual food such as vegetables, fruits, coffee, tea or rice. That is the main problem in Yemen. Some cultivate it instead of the above things which harms the communities.

I hear that the problem is even bigger in Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Eritrea and Kenya.

 

[KingMamba]

@DESERT FIGHTER do all you Baluchi walk around with aks just like our Pathan friends?

IL be honest kashmiri gals are awesome.....but kashmir men are passive.. (no offence)


No offence... im drunk...

That is why they are looking so good to you right now bro. When you are twisted a 5 becomes a 9 and a 10 becomes a goddess.

 

[al-Hasani]

@DESERT FIGHTER do all you Baluchi walk around with aks just like our Pathan friends?

Well, I should not talk as a Saudi Arabian and Yemeni.

Number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of the qat fields I was talking about. This one below is located in the lowlands of Yemen:

All that land could be used for vegetables, fruits, coffee, tea, rice etc.

 

[KingMamba]

Well, I should not talk as a Saudi Arabian and Yemeni.

Number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well in Pakistan most guns are undocumented. They did a whole vice episode on Pakistani gun markets.

 

[al-Hasani]

Well in Pakistan most guns are undocumented. They did a whole vice episode on Pakistani gun markets.

Same in KSA and Yemen. Maybe not as much in KSA now a few years after the gun laws have become significantly stricter - before they barely existed. Yemen though is another story altogether, LOL.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

7abibi stay away from alcohol and weapons at the same time. We don't want anything bad to happen.

Qat is a very mild stimulant ("drug"). Harmless overall if not used in big quantities each single day for years. It is nearly not addictive at all. Less than alcohol and tobacco.

It is just green leafs that you chew. It is basically like drinking a Red Bull, LOL. The main problem is if it is used in each social gathering as in some places in Yemen and if it is cultivated instead of actual food such as vegetables, fruits, coffee, tea or rice. That is the main problem in Yemen. Some cultivate it instead of the above things which harms the communities.

I hear that the problem is even bigger in Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Eritrea and Kenya.

In our society ... its a mans "jewellery"...







Although "educated" people wont agree with me...

Well, I should not talk as a Saudi Arabian and Yemeni.

Number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lol.. do you think thts impressive... try stingers n APCs in the inventory of civilians or the millions of unlicensed weapons in circulation... hell even i have like 20 + weapons although they are licensed..? also its somewhat of a curse in our case aswell...

But back home... who gives a sh!t.

@DESERT FIGHTER do all you Baluchi walk around with aks just like our Pathan friends?



That is why they are looking so good to you right now bro. When you are twisted a 5 becomes a 9 and a 10 becomes a goddess.

Go to interior sindh n u will also find em armed with RPGs...

As for 5= 9 or 10 no lalay... i say it coz they really are ..

@Armstrong u men should grow some ... though ... my grandpa fought in 47 and he saw kashmiris being massacred by indians... and in a really bad way...

 

[Last Hope]

No they aren't.

Infact, someone I know from family terms, his dad (over 80 years old) turned into a Shia after he was lured by some other Shia retired friends who he spent time with. Immediately, he was made as some kind of local leader of Shia, and was granted with name of Syed. From the same family, another young man joined Shiaism and took up the Syed title, but left it soon after and dropped the title.

Cast is just a bunch of bull in my opinion. What matters is a person's personality and actions.

 

[Armstrong]

@Armstrong u men should grow some ... though ... my grandpa fought in 47 and he saw kashmiris being massacred by indians... and in a really bad way...

I already have the size of Kettlebells !

Meet Don Juan & Casanova :

 

[al-Hasani]

@DESERT FIGHTER

I once posted some of my personal weapons on this forum too, in fact I recall us having a similar discussion but that was when I was back home. I am in Europe now (Denmark) and I don't think that me posting weapons over the internet would do me any good, LOL. As a foreign student too. Belief me the intelligence services watch over such things and probably already surveil me since I am an Arab and moreover an Saudi Arabian to make matters worse. Thankfully they don't know that my mother is Yemeni otherwise hell would break loose.

Besides of weapons then I have some really OLD and rare Yemeni daggers (Janbiyah), Scimitar swords and local Hijazi swords and other Arab swords.

Some of them were used by various Sharifs of Makkah. Others from my mothers side and some bought down the years (not by me obviously). I have promised myself to protect it and try to collect old artifacts myself.

I really like antiquities of all kinds. If I was a millionaire I would be buying old swords, art, etc. left and right and maybe open a museum if I had collected enough. As a personal interest obviously. Rather that then buying luxurious cars (never said anything to me).

Well we all can dream, I guess?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No they aren't.

Infact, someone I know from family terms, his dad (over 80 years old) turned into a Shia after he was lured by some other Shia retired friends who he spent time with. Immediately, he was made as some kind of local leader of Shia, and was granted with name of Syed. From the same family, another young man joined Shiaism and took up the Syed title, but left it soon after and dropped the title.

Cast is just a bunch of bull in my opinion. What matters is a person's personality and actions.

Syed is not a title u get after becoming shia.. if tht was the case id be a "syed" aswell ...


Also i believe genetics play an important role in a mans personality n actions aswell.

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

Anyway can somebody explain to me where the caste system comes from? Do the remains of this culture/tradition exist in Pakistan despite it being 97% Muslim today? I hear complains about certain landlord classes etc. that use lesser fortunate people/classes as semi-slaves?

Pakistan was majority Hindu before Islam (am I right?) but it seems that certain "traditions" have sticked.

Please elaborate.

In the Arab world between Arabs there was no lower/worse class in terms of tribes. I find it very strange that millions of Indians who happen to be born into low castes are condemned to cleaning toilets and marrying likewise people.

And then the Hindus here meddle in Arab matters and condemn us for taking pride in our ancestry, tribes, history, etc. while all this is harmless.

The caste system is a bit difficult to explain and I doubt my answer is a 100% accurate either. Some believe that the caste system was originally based on racial divisions, but that no longer holds true today. I don't think it was true in the past either or the only mixture that would have occurred would have been through rape. Mixture in the north western regions of the sub-continent has occurred but it still hasn't reached the point that an ethnic group or its ethnic appearance has been wiped off the earth, & hopefully it never will reach that point & the majority of those claims are exaggerated anyway. The claims of descent from Arabs for instance also exist because of the converts desire for closer affinity to their new religion. Personally, I find that odd because islam is a universal religion, but that's probably not how those making the claims felt before coming up with them. It's also claimed that the caste system existed before the arrival of the Vedic people from Andronovo. Personally, I think this explanation is accurate because none of the other ancient Indo-European people in Europe or Persia ever had such a practice.

The Greeks, Romans and Persians did have elites in their societies but it wasn't really comparable to the social classification that existed in the Sub-Continent in the era of antiquity. What's more likely to have occurred is that the conquerors, in this case the Indo-Aryans adopted this system upon arrival and gave themselves the positions of the higher castes due to their technological and military superiority over the natives in the regions they conquered & lived on, not the entire Sub-Continent. Later on the castes were divided on the basis of occupation, the highest caste was involved in rule, priesthood et cetera while the second caste was for warriors & military elites. The third was for merchants and I think the 4th was for agriculturalists. From my mom's side, my ancestors were Kashmiri Brahmins & that is the highest caste. From my father's side, based on my research & from what I have heard from some people, my ancestors were Kshatriyas which is the second caste or as I explained earlier; the warriors, rulers and military elites. Depending on which region of the Sub-Continent you travelled to, each kingdom had its own on sort of social order. Feudalism is kind off different, that does exist in Pakistan today, mostly in rural areas. It's generally landlords who in order to retain their strength prevent their subjects from getting any sort of education or in some cases bind them through threats, etc.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I already have the size of Kettlebells !

Meet Don Juan & Casanova :

Im serious man.. i heard the dogra used to line up kashmiris and shoot them ... and they wouldnt even move.. or try readin Shahabnama... abt kashmiris being harrassed by dogras before 47....

@DESERT FIGHTER

I once posted some of my personal weapons on this forum too, in fact I recall us having a similar discussion but that was when I was back home. I am in Europe now (Denmark) and I don't think that me posting weapons over the internet would do me any good, LOL. As a foreign student too.

Besides of weapons then I have some really OLD and rare Yemeni daggers (Janbiyah), Scimitar swords and local Hijazi sword and other Arab swords.

Some of them were used by various Sharifs of Makkah. Others from my mothers side and some bought. I have promised myself to protect it and try to collect old artifacts.

I really like antiquities of all kinds. If I was a millionaire I would be buying old swords, art, etc. left and right.

So did i... AKs,M-4,M-16s,S&Q,Glock,makarov,repeaters,double barrels,winchester 70... etc etc ... as for antiques... my Great granfather had 5 sons ... everything got divided.. and i got his sword which he used in 47 killing sikhs n his revolver (which an relative of mine lost... hate tht fool)..but im more into automatic weapons..

 

[KingMamba]

Syed is not a title u get after becoming shia.. if tht was the case id be a "syed" aswell ...


Also i believe genetics play an important role in a mans personality n actions aswell.

Maybe you forgot to don the black turban yaar.