al-Hasani
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I don't know how the situation is in South Asia but in the Arab world we call it Sadah (plural of Sayyid) families or more precisely as we Sunni Arabs (80% of all Arabs) call it ASHRAF families for the descendants of Hasan ibn Ali (RA). They were usually Sunni from the very beginning while from my research, personal experience etc. most people in the Arab world that trace their ancestry from Hussein ibn Ali (RA) are Shia's although that is not entirely true either because many of his prodigy were Sunni from the beginning when they moved to Yemen, Syria, Egypt and elsewhere in the Arab world.
As MuslimConscript said then most of the SADAH in Indonesia are nearly 99,9% Sunni of the Shafi'i figh because they are either descendants of Hijazi or Yemeni (Hadrami) Arab Sadah families. After all between 5-10 million Indonesians of Arab ancestry live in Indonesia. A significant portion belong to those Sadah families from Yemen and Hijaz.
When I look at the link from that Joshua project below:
Joshua Project - Sayyid Ethnic People in all Countries
Then I can't wonder how come there are supposedly as many as 14 million Sadah in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. I would just say that I do obviously believe that are genuine Sadah among them but I have my big doubts on whether even more than half of them are genuine as the user Sur explained. But again we can never know and I won't make any judgements. All I am saying is that 14 million is a huge number.
Personally I am a Makkawi (Meccan) Hashemite (Sharif of Makkah line) from my father's side and I never heard about us being Shia before but at the same time I have heard some Shias claim it. At the end it does not really matter. Likewise my Yemeni mother's Sadah family (hence my username) has ties to both Tarim and Sana'a - the former is famous for having many genuine Sadah families and apparently a great concentration. All are Sunnis and have strong Sufi connections.
Anyway the Quraish tribe and Banu Hashim are very big clans/tribes/families in their native Hijaz region let alone the Arab world or the Muslim world. I know several people from my childhood in Makkah that are both Sadah, descendants of various Caliphs, Sahabah etc.
Besides being a Ashraf (Sayyid) or not is not important among us Sunnis. Respect is given, people are aware of it due to our Arab culture of tracing our ancestry, people usually had high positions, served as clerics, rulers etc. and were not allowed to receive Zakat. Ironically many were also persecuted at some point in Islamic history and far from all were all wealthy contrary to popular belief. I do however believe that Sadah enjoy "bigger benefits" in Shia communities for obvious reasons.
As MuslimConscript said then most of the SADAH in Indonesia are nearly 99,9% Sunni of the Shafi'i figh because they are either descendants of Hijazi or Yemeni (Hadrami) Arab Sadah families. After all between 5-10 million Indonesians of Arab ancestry live in Indonesia. A significant portion belong to those Sadah families from Yemen and Hijaz.
When I look at the link from that Joshua project below:
Joshua Project - Sayyid Ethnic People in all Countries
Then I can't wonder how come there are supposedly as many as 14 million Sadah in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. I would just say that I do obviously believe that are genuine Sadah among them but I have my big doubts on whether even more than half of them are genuine as the user Sur explained. But again we can never know and I won't make any judgements. All I am saying is that 14 million is a huge number.
Personally I am a Makkawi (Meccan) Hashemite (Sharif of Makkah line) from my father's side and I never heard about us being Shia before but at the same time I have heard some Shias claim it. At the end it does not really matter. Likewise my Yemeni mother's Sadah family (hence my username) has ties to both Tarim and Sana'a - the former is famous for having many genuine Sadah families and apparently a great concentration. All are Sunnis and have strong Sufi connections.
Anyway the Quraish tribe and Banu Hashim are very big clans/tribes/families in their native Hijaz region let alone the Arab world or the Muslim world. I know several people from my childhood in Makkah that are both Sadah, descendants of various Caliphs, Sahabah etc.
Besides being a Ashraf (Sayyid) or not is not important among us Sunnis. Respect is given, people are aware of it due to our Arab culture of tracing our ancestry, people usually had high positions, served as clerics, rulers etc. and were not allowed to receive Zakat. Ironically many were also persecuted at some point in Islamic history and far from all were all wealthy contrary to popular belief. I do however believe that Sadah enjoy "bigger benefits" in Shia communities for obvious reasons.
