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Architecture of Zia's Islamization

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General Zia accomplished a lot; and for someone who does not understand that, it is all futile.

Can we name a few leaders after his death who could do as much as Gen Zia did ?

First of all tell what Zia did?
 
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We need Kamal Ataturk :coffee:
We need George Bush! He invaded afghanistan when 3 thousand Americans got killed, but more than 60 thousands Pakistanis have been killed and what have we done?
 
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I don't want to offend you, But I don't think Saudi style administration is good for India Because the nation is heterodox, Ethnic, religious differences.
IMO, the best guy would be a no nonsense guy/gal who is irreligious and focuses on the basics of governance.
Not sure about Pakistan

This is what I meant that we need many more things than just administrative ability in our politicians. Wrong decisions can be just as easily enforced by good administrators.
 
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Do anyone interested in placing the Pakistan at the base of the shit-hole; then he is free to pray for another 'ZIA'?
 
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We need George Bush! He invaded afghanistan when 3 thousand Americans got killed, but more than 60 thousands Pakistanis have been killed and what have we done?

60K have been killed by internal enemy, and Attaturk is role modal for dealing with rabid radicals.
 
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ZIA polarized the social fabric of pakistani nation.... we the pakistanis were moderate muslims.... he tried to shift pakistan from the indian plateau to the arabian plateau...we are still suffering from the polarities created during his era... taliban, jehadists, mqm, sharifs, mulahs....
i think pakistanis like being conservative.

We need Kamal Ataturk :coffee:
so he can change urdu into latin letters?
force women to uncover their heads?
force us wear western clothing?
 
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so he can change urdu into latin letters?
force women to uncover their heads?
force us wear western clothing?

So, What should be done?

Arabic to replace Urdu?
Everybody should go to mullahs to get certificate of being Muslim and annually renew it?
Force women to become ninga turtle and confined to homes, lash in public if they don't conform?
Men to wear robes and 1 foot beard and lash if they don't conform?
Force people to go for religious education than scientific education?
Ban female education and blow up their schools?

Idea here is to eliminate radicals & extremists and their literature and make religion the personal matter and sane laws for social administration.
 
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So, What should be done?

Arabic to replace Urdu?
Everybody should go to mullahs to get certificate of being Muslim and annually renew it?
Force women to become ninga turtle and confined to homes, lash in public if they don't conform?
Men to wear robes and 1 foot beard and lash if they don't conform?
Force people to go for religious education than scientific education?
Ban female education and blow up their schools?

Idea here is to eliminate radicals & extremists and their literature and make religion the personal matter and sane laws for social administration.

stay the same maybe? just improve law and order.
everything you stated above is complete bs btw
 
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So, What should be done?

Arabic to replace Urdu?
Everybody should go to mullahs to get certificate of being Muslim and annually renew it?
Force women to become ninga turtle and confined to homes, lash in public if they don't conform?
Men to wear robes and 1 foot beard and lash if they don't conform?
Force people to go for religious education than scientific education?
Ban female education and blow up their schools?

Idea here is to eliminate radicals & extremists and their literature and make religion the personal matter and sane laws for social administration.

What current Pakistan is doing to undo the effect of Zia's wrong policies and misdeed? Is any conscious effort going on in Pakistan?
 
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So, What should be done?

Arabic to replace Urdu?
Everybody should go to mullahs to get certificate of being Muslim and annually renew it?
Force women to become ninga turtle and confined to homes, lash in public if they don't conform?
Men to wear robes and 1 foot beard and lash if they don't conform?
Force people to go for religious education than scientific education?
Ban female education and blow up their schools?

Idea here is to eliminate radicals & extremists and their literature and make religion the personal matter and sane laws for social administration.

1) Why not, it's always very hard to understand Quran while reading.. Unless you don't read is different thing
2) Sure, if you believe Mullah's give one.. But for us, it's "Aqeedah" which implies you are muslim or something else
3) Sure, its better then putting naked women on the posters, at the beach, or in text books.
4) Why not, beard is sunnah and Our prophet had one. Whats wrong with beard?
5) yeah, sure religious education is necessary and can live without writing some dumb thesis, around 99.9% people in the world are not scientists anyways (Ps I belong to .01% people :().
6) no, without schools how point number 5 will be possible?

Idea here is just, to show you there are two extremes, following Islam doesn't always implies TTP extreme. And Zia didn't gave birth to them.

Lastly Islam is complete social system, which include social laws as well as personal laws And no, lash people for not having beard or not covering up or blowing up the school are not belong of these laws.
 
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