April 10, 2013-Pakistan test-fires Hatf-4 Shaheen-I

[Bratva]

No it didn't struck any physical target. It was either a simple splash down or an airburst.

The flight profile does looks like a depressed one, but we can't expect any maneuvers (like in QBMs). So what we're seeing here is a change from the usual ballistic trajectory, which might create problems for the ABMs.

How? If maneuvering is done in terminal stage than I can understand it is dodging the ABM but trajectory change right after launch, how it gonna deceive ABM

 

[EagleEyes]

Thanks to @Windjammer for the pic.

 

[The Deterrent]

How? If maneuvering is done in terminal stage than I can understand it is dodging the ABM but trajectory change right after launch, how it gonna deceive ABM

It won't, but I read about the US SLBM Trident...they have depressed trajectories to minimize detection and hence reaction time.
But here we are looking at launch points and radars in close proximity, so there is no way the Indian radars are going to be late about this.

Another thing to notice is the relatively greater thrust-to-weight ratio. The Shaheen-IA does not needs that much time to build up momentum and start turning towards the target (as compared to Shaheen-I). Now if it follows a depressed trajectory, it has to have higher acceleration and velocity to keep up. Which also means higher re-entry velocities.

So simply put, it may (not for sure) have much higher re-entry velocity that may overcome the ABMs that are meant to target the missiles of its class.

 

[Haji.shabib baig]

AS SLAMO ALEKUM WA REHMATULLAH
First of all MY faith full congratulation to OUR PAKISTAN ARMY GREAT ENGINEERS on HISTORICAL Ballistic Missile Hatf IV
SHAHEEN 1 also pray in future our army achieve more big target for the SAFETY OF PAKISTAN.My pray in future our PAK ARMY
perform for deceive 18teen billion public who are deliberately ignored by UNKIND AND CORRUPT RULERS.TOO.
REGARD A LOVER OF PAK ARMY PAKISTAN
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD PAK AFWAJ PAINDABAD. HAJI SHABIB BAIG

 

[Mitro]

Absolutely this missile test is against the sea base target and they have used some kind of Seeker may be modified version of 400AKG. or may be from chinese DF series .
These missile is good for EMP type weapon system if not accurate also but very close to the target so EMP makes the Aircraft Carrier Sitting Duck

Well, lots of pro or anti...

Testing is normal. And you do not see from the outside what is tested, nor would someone tell you what he did improve. So foreigners claiming that there was nothing to be tested. Sure. Every missile is a copy of each other and they all have the same parameters. And only Indians claim crashed tests as partially success...

The major lesson from this test is that is is launched at a sea target. So here we see probably a follow up of the carrier killer 400AKG. We see on both sides major improvements on protecting sea routes (or denying the opposite side). This is one of the few next to the 400AKG and sea launched Babur that means that we might not need to buy dozens of ships but do you wanna risk being hit in the middle of the sea? So yes we continue on asymmetric warfare.

Since 400AKG id full TOT (which was a full secret till now) we all can see what it will mean to our smart usage of technology!

 

[moor]

AS SLAMO ALEKUM WA REHMATULLAH
First of all MY faith full congratulation to OUR PAKISTAN ARMY GREAT ENGINEERS on HISTORICAL Ballistic Missile Hatf IV
SHAHEEN 1 also pray in future our army achieve more big target for the SAFETY OF PAKISTAN.My pray in future our PAK ARMY
perform for deceive 18teen billion public who are deliberately ignored by UNKIND AND CORRUPT RULERS.TOO.
REGARD A LOVER OF PAK ARMY PAKISTAN
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD PAK AFWAJ PAINDABAD. HAJI SHABIB BAIG

ALLAH-O-AKBAR.......................PAKISTAN & ARMEDFORCES ZINDABAD......MAY ALLAH BLESS OUR PAKISTAN.....

 

[air marshal]

Congrats!!!

 

[qinglong-china]

Absolutely this missile test is against the sea base target and they have used some kind of Seeker may be modified version of 400AKG. or may be from chinese DF series .
These missile is good for EMP type weapon system if not accurate also but very close to the target so EMP makes the Aircraft Carrier Sitting Duck

From chinese DF series? Evidence?
This is the achievements of Pakistani efforts.

come on, Pakistan

 

[Ammyy]

I have made up a little map,covering 900KMs being fired from Gwadar in a mobile launcher or an underground silo.

If it is meant to be,what you said its meant to be than it is a bad news for the Indian navy and its planned carriers...very bad news.

[/MENTION]

There is nothing special.

To test a 900 km range missile you have only one option and that is target it at sea.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Just need one clarification, was this Shaheen-1 or Shaheen-1A, cause as per my understanding Shaheen-1A already had a range of more than 1000 km, where as shaheen-1 had a range of 700km, which now appears to be improved to 900km.

Second observation in this regard, Shaheen-1A is much faster than the currently tested missile, which strengthens my believe that this was an improved Shaheen-1.

 

[Jango]

Come on folks, no need to ruin this thread.

Do not reply to a troll, keep calm and press the report button.

 

[Kompromat]

This mentions a "sea target"...can it be just poor reporting?

 

[The Deterrent]

Just need one clarification, was this Shaheen-1 or Shaheen-1A, cause as per my understanding Shaheen-1A already had a range of more than 1000 km, where as shaheen-1 had a range of 700km, which now appears to be improved to 900km.

Second observation in this regard, Shaheen-1A is much faster than the currently tested missile, which strengthens my believe that this was an improved Shaheen-1.

It is indeed Shaheen-IA. We didn't know for sure about its range earlier, now we do.
The best we can do with older Shaheen-Is is to upgrade their ReVs, nothing more.

This mentions a "sea target"...can it be just poor reporting?

Yes, that is extremely poor reporting.
The press release in English has mentioned either "aimed at sea" or "impact point at sea", none of which means that it hit a physical target at sea.
We do not possess the technology to develop ASBMs for now. We are not even close.

 

[liontk]

This mentions a "sea target"...can it be just poor reporting?

Sorry to take your time, what does tajurba mean in english(missile?) , nice article probably will take me a hour to get through, fun activity to get my reading good

Sorry to take your time, what does tajurba mean in english(missile?) , nice article probably will take me a hour to get through, fun activity to get my reading good

Edit: In case i did not write properly in roman urdu, it is the second last word and another word in second sentence is 'Matabik'

 

[A.Rafay]

Sorry to take your time, what does tajurba mean in english(missile?) , nice article probably will take me a hour to get through, fun activity to get my reading good



Edit: In case i did not write properly in roman urdu, it is the second last word and another word in second sentence is 'Matabik'

Mutabik= according (to)
Tajurba = experiment.