Ancient Man and His First Civilizations.Proving Aryan Invasion Theory is a myth and severe lie

[Reashot Xigwin]

Then make a separate thread.
Other people will explain it in a better way than I can ever do.

Of course, but what makes Indian exactly? Not ethnicity of course. an Aryan or Greeks descendant can be categorized as Indian, what makes Indian is the cultures they share & their geographic location.

Historical trivia: India are word coined by the Ancient Greeks for any civilizations beyond the Indus river & people since then keep calling it that.

 

[Vinod2070]

Historical trivia: India are word coined by the Ancient Greeks for any civilizations beyond the Indus river & people since then keep calling it that.

It is just a Western name. The local name is Bharat (also Aryavrata) which predates the name India by several milienia.

Just like America and Australia existed before being "discovered" by Europeans, the same is true in this case.

Different people in the world called India by different names.

 

[SrNair]

Of course, but what makes Indian exactly? Not ethnicity of course. an Aryan or Greeks descendant can be categorized as Indian, what makes Indian is the cultures they share & their geographic location.

Historical trivia: India are word coined by the Ancient Greeks for any civilizations beyond the Indus river & people since then keep calling it that.

The real name of India is Bharat.Past is past .Now we dont consider our neighbourhood is under the name India.Ours is the India.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

It is just a Western name. The local name is Bharat (also Aryavrata) which predates the name India by several milienia.

Just like America and Australia existed before being "discovered" by Europeans, the same is true in this case.

Different people in the world called India by different names.

Just a name it means nothing.

The real name of India is Bharat.Past is past .Now we dont consider our neighbourhood is under the name India.Ours is the India.

It's a name, it's just label. The guy want to ask what kind of people are Pakistan. They're "Indian" with only the difference of religion. India (country) are not the same as THE India (geography). European Union (Political Organization) are not the same as Europe (geography).

When I said Pakistani are Indian is because they're culture remain that of Indian & their geographic location with only major differences between you two is religion.

Now back on topic are you still flip-flopping on the issues of the Aryans Invasion?

 

[manlion]

Pakistani are Indian. If you want to be specific most of them are Punjabi..

you are wrong all Punjabi should be Pakistanis as 80% of Punjab is in Pakistan and India was a British creation,

The real name of India is Bharat.Past is past .Now we dont consider our neighbourhood is under the name India.Ours is the India.

That's a Hindoo myth not a historic fact .. another scam from the revisionist fan club ..

 

[SrNair]

Just a name it means nothing.



It's a name, it's just label. The guy want to ask what kind of people are Pakistan. They're "Indian" with only the difference of religion. India (country) are not the same as THE India (geography). European Union (Political Organization) are not the same as Europe (geography).

When I said Pakistani are Indian is because they're culture remain that of Indian & their geographic location with only major differences between you two is religion.

Now back on topic are you still flip-flopping on the issues of the Aryans Invasion?

You are right.Still Pakistan is heavily influenced by Indian culture.But politically they are two different nations .And Pakistanis dont like they are under Indian Culture or known as an Indian.They like to be known as Arabs.
About Aryan Invasion I already stated about it and it is proven.And Most of Indians and also world debunks AIT theory .I think we dont need further discussion about it.

you are wrong all Punjabi should be Pakistanis as 80% of Punjab is in Pakistan as India was a British creation



That's another Hindoo myth not a historic fact .. another scam from the revisionist fan club ..

Idiot.I dont oppose any other facts.May be entire subcontinent are known as India as culturally and also politically in early times.
But in present world.India is a different country,and even our neighbours dont like us.So there is a fixed definition for India and
Bharat and I only care about it.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

You are right.Still Pakistan is heavily influenced by Indian culture.But politically they are two different nations .And Pakistanis dont like they are under Indian Culture or known as an Indian.They like to be known as Arabs.
About Aryan Invasion I already stated about it and it is proven.And Most of Indians and also world debunks AIT theory .I think we dont need further discussion about it.
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Both Pakistan & India are actually the same on this regard. Pakistan are "ashamed" of their Hindu Heritage while India are also "ashamed" of their Muslim heritage. Which begs this question why are both of you ashamed of your own past? Like Denying the Aryan significance to Indian culture, history, language & religion.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Both Pakistan & India are actually the same on this regard. Pakistan are "ashamed" of their Hindu Heritage while India are also "ashamed" of their Muslim heritage. Which begs this question why are both of you ashamed of your own past? Like Denying the Aryan significance to Indian culture, history, language & religion.

Because we are idiots?
I would not place my bets on AIT though. Genetics cannot be trumped by linguistic evidence. People inhabiting the subcontinent have been here since milinia, they did not come from anywhere except africa or the near east.

 

[manlion]

You are right.Still Pakistan is heavily influenced by Indian culture

lol its the reverse, don't you agree Taj Mahal is part of Islamic heritage ?

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But in present world.India is a different country,and even our neighbours dont like us.So there is a fixed definition for India and
Bharat and I only care about it.

India is derived from Hindu , another identity given to you by the Muslims,

 

[SrNair]

Both Pakistan & India are actually the same on this regard. Pakistan are "ashamed" of their Hindu Heritage while India are also "ashamed" of their Muslim heritage. Which begs this question why are both of you ashamed of your own past? Like Denying the Aryan significance to Indian culture, history, language & religion.

We dont ashame about Muslim heritage.Islam gave India a lot good values and (some are bad values).
But there is a fundamental problem here.India dont have any Muslim Heritage like India influence or (Hindu heritage) in Pakistani society.Because Hinduism is created in India .Our heritage is completely confined to Hinduism.Islam entered in to India through Muslim invaders.Otherwise Islam is an outside religion and Heritage to us.Pakistan created due to this Mughal rule.

lol its the reverse, don't you agree Taj Mahal is part of Islamic heritage ?

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India is derived from Hindu , another identity given to you by the Muslims,

Then what about ancient temples and structures in India .Indians worship and care temple and other structures thousands of years before Mughal rule.Pakistan is created due to rule of Mughal Emperors.
Mughal Rulers are either may Persians or Central Asian Kings and Taj Mahal is builded by them.Not Paksitanis.Pakistan itself is created just after 1947 under new indentity.
And this is my last explanation .Dont go offtopic here.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Because we are idiots?
I would not place my bets on AIT though. Genetics cannot be trumped by linguistic evidence. People inhabiting the subcontinent have been here since milinia, they did not come from anywhere except africa or the near east.

There's also Archaeological evidence you want to trump them too? From Horse to Iron based weapons to Chariots. All of those are not native to India.

 

[manlion]

Then what about ancient temples and structures in India .Indians worship and care temple and other structures thousands of years before Mughal rule.Pakistan is created due to rule of Mughal Emperors.
Mughal Rulers are either may Persians or Central Asian Kings and Taj Mahal is builded by them.Not Paksitanis.Pakistan itself is created just after 1947 under new indentity.
And this is my last explanation .Dont go offtopic here.

I a not referring to dead monuments but the living culture, language, cuisine, dressing etc. e.g Hindustani music try deny the Islamic influence ?

Classical Indian music-

Classical Indian music - Hindustani (of North India) and Carnatic (of South India) - has one point of origin, but while Hindustani music came under Islamic influence from the eleventh century onwards, Carnatic music has retained a relative purity

 

[Butchcassidy]

There's also Archaeological evidence you want to trump them too? From Horse to Iron based weapons to Chariots. All of those are not native to India.

Where did they find those things??

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

We dont ashame about Muslim heritage.Islam gave India a lot good values and (some are bad values).
But there is a fundamental problem here.India dont have any Muslim Heritage like India influence or (Hindu heritage) in Pakistani society.Because Hinduism is created in India .Our heritage is completely confined to Hinduism.Islam entered in to India through Muslim invaders.Otherwise Islam is an outside religion and Heritage to us.Pakistan created due to this Mughal rule.

So does Hinduism came from the outside, but you don't like them so you reject that Hinduism were partly created because of them. Whether you like it or not they are your History. Be they came from Invaders or other wise you must accept the truths

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Where did they find those things??

Archaeological site around the Ganges river valley to the Indus valley. About Genetics that's pretty much tells you about the brutal efficient of the Caste System or Varna.