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An interview with Hafiz Saeed - August 24, 2012

Hafiz is going to say what he is suppose to say and obvious to him :tdown:.

But the interesting thing here is that he has been given air time by this corrupt army stooge Mubashir Luqman 2-3 times on different channels in one year. He (M L) was kicked out by Duniya channel got spit on his way in maga bouts from Pakistani public but his army backing has again provided another platform to run his mouth.

Would you say the same about NDTV & Headlines Today and many others channels about the 5 so called terrorists story which came out to be fake being run by the RAW mouthpiece controlled media

India Media fake 5 Pakistani terrorists story exposed part 1.flv - YouTube - "SUSPECTED LeT terrorists"........... if that is how you get your evidence from then..........
 
People like Babar Ayaz, who say that Pakistanis are still looking for their identity are influenced by their ignorance.

Pakistanis have an identity. An identity which is imbued in the 40,000 year old history of the land they live on. We the Pakistanis are the scions of Indus Valley Civilization. We the people of this land were Hindus, were Buddhists and the current religion that people of this land follow is Islam.

From the Harappan civilization in the late fourth to mid-second millennium BC, whose language has not so far been deciphered, to Mauryan Empire to Kushan Empire whose capital once was also Peshawar, all were embodiment of Indus Civilization, which currently is Muslim. And this fact hurts the Indian Hindu zealots more than anything else, because by losing it, they lost their identity, whereas, we the Pakistanis have retained our identity as scions of Indus valley Civilization who are now Muslims.

The vision of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in the 1940s did not constitute a mere power grab at the expense of India's Hindu-dominated Congress party. There was much history and geography behind his drive to create a separate Muslim state anchored in the subcontinent's northwest, abutting southern Central Asia.

Indians and many Europeans (Lary Collins, Dominique Lapier – Freedom at Mid Night) say that Pakistan was an artificially created state. This is far from the truth. Pakistan exists along the Indus Valley, which separates it from Ganges Valley in India along Gurdaspur-Kathiawar salient, a line running from eastern Punjab southwest to the Arabian Sea in Gujarat. This is the watershed, and it matches up almost exactly with the Pakistan-India border.

The Indus, much more than the Ganges, since thousands of years has had an organic relationship with the Arab, Persian, and Turkic worlds. It is historically and geographically a fact that the Indus Valley civilization, long ago was a part of Achaemenid Persia and the forward bastion of Alexander the Great's Near Eastern empire. Therefore, its historical linkages with Arab and Turkic world did not take place after the Muslims conquered this area.

The Indians and many pseudo-intellectual Pakistanis need to understand the historical and geographical facts before they start uttering such nonsense that Pakistanis are still looking for an identity and force us to believe in something which is wrong, historically and factually.
 
People like Babar Ayaz, who say that Pakistanis are still looking for their identity are influenced by their ignorance.

Pakistanis have an identity. An identity which is imbued in the 40,000 year old history of the land they live on. We the Pakistanis are the scions of Indus Valley Civilization. We the people of this land were Hindus, were Buddhists and the current religion that people of this land follow is Islam.

From the Harappan civilization in the late fourth to mid-second millennium BC, whose language has not so far been deciphered, to Mauryan Empire to Kushan Empire whose capital once was also Peshawar, all were embodiment of Indus Civilization, which currently is Muslim. And this fact hurts the Indian Hindu zealots more than anything else, because by losing it, they lost their identity, whereas, we the Pakistanis have retained our identity as scions of Indus valley Civilization who are now Muslims.

The vision of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in the 1940s did not constitute a mere power grab at the expense of India's Hindu-dominated Congress party. There was much history and geography behind his drive to create a separate Muslim state anchored in the subcontinent's northwest, abutting southern Central Asia.

Indians and many Europeans (Lary Collins, Dominique Lapier – Freedom at Mid Night) say that Pakistan was an artificially created state. This is far from the truth. Pakistan exists along the Indus Valley, which separates it from Ganges Valley in India along Gurdaspur-Kathiawar salient, a line running from eastern Punjab southwest to the Arabian Sea in Gujarat. This is the watershed, and it matches up almost exactly with the Pakistan-India border.

The Indus, much more than the Ganges, since thousands of years has had an organic relationship with the Arab, Persian, and Turkic worlds. It is historically and geographically a fact that the Indus Valley civilization, long ago was a part of Achaemenid Persia and the forward bastion of Alexander the Great's Near Eastern empire. Therefore, its historical linkages with Arab and Turkic world did not take place after the Muslims conquered this area.

The Indians and many pseudo-intellectual Pakistanis need to understand the historical and geographical facts before they start uttering such nonsense that Pakistanis are still looking for an identity and force us to believe in something which is wrong, historically and factually.

Very good post Ticker. :tup:

I wish I could thank you more than once.
 
Yo Paks, Mauryan was an Indian as Indian could get. For a set of people who claim everything from geographical location, the capital of Mauryan empire was Pataliputra..and no it wasnt the ancient name for Peshawar.
 
Where did Israel got its nuclear weapons from. And why is America quite about it...What right does France, UK, USA, Russia, China have to be nuclear weapon powers and not others.
Go on, don't stop there. Research and answer those questions, don't settle for ignorance or insinuation. After all, doesn't your society tell you not to trust the words of a Zionist Jew?
 
Would you say the same about NDTV & Headlines Today and many others channels about the 5 so called terrorists story which came out to be fake being run by the RAW mouthpiece controlled media

India Media fake 5 Pakistani terrorists story exposed part 1.flv - YouTube - "SUSPECTED LeT terrorists"........... if that is how you get your evidence from then..........

It has nothing to do with this terrorist given air time by terrorist sympathiser Pakistani media who pretend quite legitimate suit wearing scoundrels.

The flute all you Pakistani play on above news has been already done with and answered by higher authorities. It was a false tip off, leaked to Police from IB or RAW, it is better to be alarmed than sorry and especially dealing with Pakistanis.

26/11 terrorist were Pakistanis. Now go and beat the bush without understanding how things work.
 
People like Babar Ayaz, who say that Pakistanis are still looking for their identity are influenced by their ignorance.

Pakistanis have an identity. An identity which is imbued in the 40,000 year old history of the land they live on. We the Pakistanis are the scions of Indus Valley Civilization. We the people of this land were Hindus, were Buddhists and the current religion that people of this land follow is Islam.

From the Harappan civilization in the late fourth to mid-second millennium BC, whose language has not so far been deciphered, to Mauryan Empire to Kushan Empire whose capital once was also Peshawar, all were embodiment of Indus Civilization, which currently is Muslim. And this fact hurts the Indian Hindu zealots more than anything else, because by losing it, they lost their identity, whereas, we the Pakistanis have retained our identity as scions of Indus valley Civilization who are now Muslims.

The vision of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in the 1940s did not constitute a mere power grab at the expense of India's Hindu-dominated Congress party. There was much history and geography behind his drive to create a separate Muslim state anchored in the subcontinent's northwest, abutting southern Central Asia.

Indians and many Europeans (Lary Collins, Dominique Lapier – Freedom at Mid Night) say that Pakistan was an artificially created state. This is far from the truth. Pakistan exists along the Indus Valley, which separates it from Ganges Valley in India along Gurdaspur-Kathiawar salient, a line running from eastern Punjab southwest to the Arabian Sea in Gujarat. This is the watershed, and it matches up almost exactly with the Pakistan-India border.

The Indus, much more than the Ganges, since thousands of years has had an organic relationship with the Arab, Persian, and Turkic worlds. It is historically and geographically a fact that the Indus Valley civilization, long ago was a part of Achaemenid Persia and the forward bastion of Alexander the Great's Near Eastern empire. Therefore, its historical linkages with Arab and Turkic world did not take place after the Muslims conquered this area.

The Indians and many pseudo-intellectual Pakistanis need to understand the historical and geographical facts before they start uttering such nonsense that Pakistanis are still looking for an identity and force us to believe in something which is wrong, historically and factually.

So as per your logic..if the greeks and persians and Arabs ask their land back will you give it Back.....I am just trying to relate this with the Palestinian problem....I am not trolling..Just want to hear some views from Non-Hipocritic members.
 
People like Babar Ayaz, who say that Pakistanis are still looking for their identity are influenced by their ignorance.

Pakistanis have an identity. An identity which is imbued in the 40,000 year old history of the land they live on. We the Pakistanis are the scions of Indus Valley Civilization. We the people of this land were Hindus, were Buddhists and the current religion that people of this land follow is Islam.

From the Harappan civilization in the late fourth to mid-second millennium BC, whose language has not so far been deciphered, to Mauryan Empire to Kushan Empire whose capital once was also Peshawar, all were embodiment of Indus Civilization, which currently is Muslim. And this fact hurts the Indian Hindu zealots more than anything else, because by losing it, they lost their identity, whereas, we the Pakistanis have retained our identity as scions of Indus valley Civilization who are now Muslims.

The vision of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, in the 1940s did not constitute a mere power grab at the expense of India's Hindu-dominated Congress party. There was much history and geography behind his drive to create a separate Muslim state anchored in the subcontinent's northwest, abutting southern Central Asia.

Indians and many Europeans (Lary Collins, Dominique Lapier – Freedom at Mid Night) say that Pakistan was an artificially created state. This is far from the truth. Pakistan exists along the Indus Valley, which separates it from Ganges Valley in India along Gurdaspur-Kathiawar salient, a line running from eastern Punjab southwest to the Arabian Sea in Gujarat. This is the watershed, and it matches up almost exactly with the Pakistan-India border.

The Indus, much more than the Ganges, since thousands of years has had an organic relationship with the Arab, Persian, and Turkic worlds. It is historically and geographically a fact that the Indus Valley civilization, long ago was a part of Achaemenid Persia and the forward bastion of Alexander the Great's Near Eastern empire. Therefore, its historical linkages with Arab and Turkic world did not take place after the Muslims conquered this area.

The Indians and many pseudo-intellectual Pakistanis need to understand the historical and geographical facts before they start uttering such nonsense that Pakistanis are still looking for an identity and force us to believe in something which is wrong, historically and factually.

Seem you are another delusional brain washed Pakistani

Is this what your history books teach you?

40,000 year old history of the land?

By the way what is this Ganges Valley civilization. I haven't heard about it.

Whatever you say Indus valley civilization is Indian civilization.

Lecture Notes: Early Indian and Chinese Civilizations

Show one credible sources that there is some thing called Pakistani Civilization, I will leave the forum.
 
mene to phele he guess kar liya tha ...u r the best :)

Apa Jaan ! Aaap ne 'choota bhai' change kar liyeee.....? Mujhe thuudd kara dei ? :cry:

Manaa ke meine aaap ki mooooch ka mazaaak uraiyaaa thaaa par eik paaal mein hiii pariyaa kar diyaaa ? :cry:
 
Rafi has the biggest evidence to prove Pakistan is millions of years old. A dinosaur species whose fossil has been in Pakistan has been named Pakisaurous. So Pakistan is as old as the dinosaur. :lol:
 

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