America will Collapse

[gambit]

You do know China's sales to the rest of the world would continue and perhaps to a lesser degree, Americans would still be dependent upon Chinese products even with their crashing economy.

Real economists, not the fake ones here, agreed that the yuan will rise in value, making Chinese exports more expensive. The Chinese already have a taste of 'the good life'. If we go down, so will many Chinese out the windows of those tall buildings in Shanghai and Beijing.

 

[Night_Raven]

No country is fully insulated from the US in this globalised economy .... so don't count for US's fall in the future ... degradation maybe but collapse ..NO.

 

[Foreigntrademan]

A certain subset of Indian-Americans are a funny lot.

When you point out the wrongs of India, they come in as "Unbiased, neutral 100% purebred Americans with absolutely no relationship to India"
When you point out the wrongs of the US, they come in as "A concerned yet totally unbiased, neutral Indian with absolutely no personal interest in the US"

When mouse meets bad things, the bat will pretend to be a bird.
When bird meets bad things, the bat will pretend to be a mouse.
It is a good way to gain all honor meanwhile elude all dirt.
They are legends!!!

 

[NiceGuy]

Real economists, not the fake ones here, agreed that the yuan will rise in value, making Chinese exports more expensive. The Chinese already have a taste of 'the good life'. If we go down, so will many Chinese out the windows of those tall buildings in Shanghai and Beijing.

Don't forget CHina have 1,3 bil people, CHina only can be collapsed bcz of short of foods and resouces, and will never collapsed just bcz of reducing population

 

[T90TankGuy]

do members here really think the US will collapse? i mean do you think the most powerful economy will go down the toilet ? guys they will do everything in their power to survive , they did not become no 1 without stepping on some dead bodies . if need be they will do so again .

 

[Foreigntrademan]

China will collapse as well. China cannot force others to buy her exports. She can entice the purchases with lowered prices, but how low can she goes? Talk about a loaded question, eh? So without buyers for durable goods, the Chinese people will be without jobs. The most calamitous will be the coastal region where most of the wealth is concentrated. Who were once wealthy and powerful Chinese businessmen will fling themselves out of those beautiful buildings because now their wealth is nothing.

I agree with this point. maybe this is the reason why Chinese govenment try so hard to accelerates demestic consumption but absolutely it is not that easy. Chinese people have a inherent habit for saving. When we earn money, we mostly save it instead of buying something to have fun, or use it to enjoy life. nevertheless, the demestic market is still very huge, now our demestic income is becoming higher and higher, I am doing foreign trade, and recently, I can feel that the globe economy is in troble. Less order than before. But give us 2 years or 3, we will can mostly rely on demestic market when foreign trade come to the end.

 

[below_freezing]

USD reserves are actually harmful to China. Exporting to the US is worse than making products, dumping them into the ocean and paying people to dredge them back out. We had no choice 30 years ago, it was the mafia's protection fee to be admitted to the club. Now the momentum of Taiwanese export lobby has kept it going. Once those traitors get kicked out and China actually starts looking out for all of China's interests instead of Taiwan's interests alone the US will get whats coming to it.

The collapse of the US has no negative consequences for any countries other than white nations without resources that have a median age over 40.

 

[below_freezing]

Wow great theory! China is safe,workers lose job and they go back to farms...each worker in China owns a farm! And in US people are insecure,unlike Chinese!
No wonder China is already a moved with the change in US policy.
China state paper says U.S. debt downgrade a warning bell | Reuters
Come on be realistic,US runs the world right now and China will suffer heavily.
BTW,i am still ROFL@ "Exports worldwide collapsed in the 2008 Credit Crunch, and you guys were all saying that China would collapse. Unforunately for you, there is a neat "social safety net" in China... workers who lose their jobs in factories, can always go back to their family farms in the countryside.
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Unlike in certain parts of India, in China being born on a farm isn't a death sentence for 6000 people per day, nor is it a condemnation to illiteracy, poverty and starvation.

The average Chinese farmer still lives longer and is more educated than the typical Indian.

 

[Foreigntrademan]

I've said time and time again, that I do not believe America will collapse.

On the other thread, I talked about the USA, the Eurozone and Japan as the three main places where countries entrust their currency reserves. And I said that out of the three, US government bonds are still the safest and the most liquid asset available.

Only God knows why Indians have to get so excited in the hope that a collapsing America will bring down China too.

Leave them along. They are idots.

 

[gambit]

I agree with this point. maybe this is the reason why Chinese govenment try so hard to accelerates demestic consumption but absolutely it is not that easy. Chinese people have a inherent habit for saving. When we earn money, we mostly save it instead of buying something to have fun, or use it to enjoy life. nevertheless, the demestic market is still very huge, now our demestic income is becoming higher and higher, I am doing foreign trade, and recently, I can feel that the globe economy is in troble. Less order than before. But give us 2 years or 3, we will can mostly rely on demestic market when foreign trade come to the end.

Foreign trade will never end as long as you allow the people the freedom to exercise their earned wealth. Not everyone must or will focus on the domestic market opportunities alone. Many will seek other avenues to wealth and if foreigners are willing to buy, entrepreneurs will sell. Depending on the specific sector, may be the foreign market have the greater demand, so why should I restrict myself to the lower domestic demand?

 

[gambit]

USD reserves are actually harmful to China. Exporting to the US is worse than making products, dumping them into the ocean and paying people to dredge them back out. We had no choice 30 years ago, it was the mafia's protection fee to be admitted to the club. Now the momentum of Taiwanese export lobby has kept it going. Once those traitors get kicked out and China actually starts looking out for all of China's interests instead of Taiwan's interests alone the US will get whats coming to it.

The collapse of the US has no negative consequences for any countries other than white nations without resources that have a median age over 40.

What a good laugh it is. You talk as if China had no choice. Wrong...China had a choice. Either remain a backward country or reform and join the club. No one held a gun to China's head.

 

[Tshering22]

This is not going to happen the way it is said. Simple as that. US will not ebb away like Soviets but may not have the same military capability to push for their laws around the world. In short, the coming future is going to be multi-polar world with more than one centers of global power.

 

[below_freezing]

This is not going to happen the way it is said. Simple as that. US will not ebb away like Soviets but may not have the same military capability to push for their laws around the world. In short, the coming future is going to be multi-polar world with more than one centers of global power.

The US is a multiracial, militaristic society like the Soviet Union. It will end the same way: breaking up on racial and political lines.

Long live the Republic of California, Republic of Texas, Republic of Vermont, Kingdom of Hawaii and the Confederate States of America!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

This is not going to happen the way it is said. Simple as that. US will not ebb away like Soviets but may not have the same military capability to push for their laws around the world. In short, the coming future is going to be multi-polar world with more than one centers of global power.

This seems to be the most likely outcome.

 

[Omar1984]

The US is a multiracial, militaristic society like the Soviet Union. It will end the same way: breaking up on racial and political lines.

Long live the Republic of California, Republic of Texas, Republic of Vermont, Kingdom of Hawaii and the Confederate States of America!

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