Amar Jawan memorial vandalism

[angeldust]

You may be surprised to learn that MJ is a member of the AIMPLB. That is not a body of moderates.

Thanks, I did not know that.

 

[Black Widow]

It makes a difference if you are yourself committed to the rule of law. If not, you will advocate a counter-riot.

I don't know whom you are referring to as Mother India. It is tasteless and crude, and doesn't add to the value of the views that you are trying to convey.

Rules of law is not applicable on Vote bank, and Muslim make 25% vote bank for Kongress, Mulla-yam, Lallo and others...


Terrorists like Abu-Jundal rest at Kongress beautiful politicians. Guru is not hanged to death coz it will cost Muslim votes for kongress. NE brothers are migrating from Maharastra, Karnataka, and AP. Imagine if Muslims would have migrating from these states, how big news that could be..


Non Muslims are treated like second class citizen by Indian Media, politicians and seculars... In India Hindu life is cheapest...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Rules of law is not applicable on Vote bank, and Muslim make 25% vote bank for Kongress, Mulla-yam, Lallo and others...

Please stop muttering under your breath. It is the voter that brings in these law-breakers. It is democracy that empowers the voters. What do you want instead? Rule by self-appointed sarsanghchalak?

Why don't you suggest what you want to see done, instead of what is going on? If you have positive ideas, contribute them.

 

[KRAIT]

Please stop muttering under your breath. It is the voter that brings in these law-breakers. It is democracy that empowers the voters. What do you want instead? Rule by self-appointed sarsanghchalak?

Why don't you suggest what you want to see done, instead of what is going on? If you have positive ideas, contribute them.

I just want one change...I would like to know every party's PM candidate before the elections...

 

[Joe Shearer]

Rules of law is not applicable on Vote bank, and Muslim make 25% vote bank for Kongress, Mulla-yam, Lallo and others...

Terrorists like Abu-Jundal rest at Kongress beautiful politicians.

The Congress is loathsome, agreed. Where did you find a connection between that party and Abu Jundal? What does your sentence mean, actually? What kind of rest? And why do you spell the party name with a K? Is it supposed to stand for something?

Guru is not hanged to death coz it will cost Muslim votes for kongress.

Since the BJP and the NDA are supposed to be coming to power, we need to wait only a few days more, right? Why worry? It is a question of a few more months before the matter is decided.

NE brothers are migrating from Maharastra, Karnataka, and AP. Imagine if Muslims would have migrating from these states, how big news that could be..

While we do that, what about ensuring that citizens of India can work anywhere in India? Does that come first or does rocking back and forth and lamenting how it would have been different otherwise come first?

Non Muslims are treated like second class citizen by Indian Media, politicians and seculars... In India Hindu life is cheapest...
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The Indian Express is right wing. The Times of India is centrist. The Hindu is leftist. If we go through the entire list one by one, there is no preponderance of one section over the other.

Could it be that there is no unequal treatment of anyone at all?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Are people aware of the fact that there is no law in the books actually covering acts of vandalism against a national monument like the Amar Jawan monument?

Doesn't that need action?

 

[scorpionx]

Are people aware of the fact that there is no law in the books actually covering acts of vandalism against a national monument like the Amar Jawan monument?

Doesn't that need action?

IPC 124A needs modification?

 

[Joe Shearer]

IPC 124A needs modification?

Sedition? Those two bastards didn't say anything, they destroyed a monument

I would treat it differently, under the section governing disrespect to religious monuments, graves or sepulchres (I think I reproduced it somewhere).

I'm not sure. A trained lawyer would be able to tell us.

 

[ironman1]

Are people aware of the fact that there is no law in the books actually covering acts of vandalism against a national monument like the Amar Jawan monument?

Doesn't that need action?

mate let us accept one truth , if you were in a muslim country , moderates like you would never have survived a day. and everybody should know one thing , there are two broad factions in muslims (apart from sunni/shia) - one is modern,educated and wants to do nothing with the other faction (which comprises of radicals and fools) . moderate faction follows progressive Islam (discarding the primitive ideology and progressing with society ), and the radicals mistakenly think they are muslims following islam . the truth is if you follow honestly, there may be only a thousand muslims in the world, and not more.

 

[Joe Shearer]

mate let us accept one truth , if you were in a muslim country , moderates like you would never have survived a day. and everybody should know one thing , there are two broad factions in muslims (apart from sunni/shia) - one is modern,educated and wants to do nothing with the other faction (which comprises of radicals and fools) . moderate faction follows progressive Islam (discarding the primitive ideology and progressing with society ), and the radicals mistakenly think they are muslims following islam . the truth is if you follow honestly, there may be only a thousand muslims in the world, and not more.

Are we in a Muslim country?

 

[Jackdaws]

Sedition? Those two bastards didn't say anything, they destroyed a monument

I would treat it differently, under the section governing disrespect to religious monuments, graves or sepulchres (I think I reproduced it somewhere).

I'm not sure. A trained lawyer would be able to tell us.

I agree with you. Destruction of public property. What sedition? The only people who should be tried for sedition are the MPs in LS and RS.

 

[ironman1]

Are we in a Muslim country?

mate that's exactly what i am trying to say ! (i think you are taking it in other way ).

 

[Joe Shearer]

I agree with you. Destruction of public property. What sedition? The only people who should be tried for sedition are the MPs in LS and RS.

YES, YES, YES!!

But not destruction of public property. They've defined that around essential supplies; monuments and public memorials aren't covered. It's weird.

 

[westtowel]

NDTV at its BEST.(Minority appeasement)

Mumbai: Three survivors of police firing on Saturday's riot were not even part of the Raza Academy meeting held in the Azad Maidan grounds. All three victims said they had come to the area for their own work and were caught in the middle.

The youngest victim, 22-year-old Junaid Shaikh, who repairs mobile phones at Manish Market and had gone there on Saturday afternoon for some work at his uncle's shop. Accompanying him was a friend, Ashiq Ali.

Shaikh said, "We were there for about 5 to 10 minutes before we left. We climbed on to the JJ Flyover ramp when we saw the traffic jam on the southbound lane. Our lane was clear. We halted the bike on the side of the road on top of the flyover to see what had happened."


Looking behind, Shaikh and Ali noticed a massive mob of people destroying buses and cars outside the CST exit. The mob was being pursued by hundreds of policemen.

Shaikh added, "I heard loud popping noises, like firecrackers. I didn't realise police were shooting at the mob. In the melee, I recognised two kids from our area running towards our bike, along with the mob.

They asked me to save them. I had one kid sit on the motorcycle tank and placed the other between Ali and myself. I then started the bike and sped off."

Shaikh had ridden the bike only a few meters ahead when he realized he'd hurt his right leg. "It didn't occur to me that I was shot. We'd gone about half a kilometre ahead and I tried to slow down by braking and my foot slipped off the foot peg when I tried to brake.

I then realized I was seriously hurt. I lowered the bike's side stand while in motion and squeezed the front brake to stop. Ali and I swapped places and he rushed all of us to JJ hospital."

According to his doctors, the bullet entered his ankle and missed his bone by just half an inch before exiting. "I feel extremely lucky. If the bullet had hit my left leg, I wouldn't have been able to drive the bike away," he added.

Akbar Mohammed Ali Khan, 27, works as a maintenance manager for a travel agency. His grandmother was admitted in Nair Hospital for amputation of her arm owing to diabetes complications.

On Saturday, Khan had gone to purchase new clothes for his grandmother at Fashion Street, when he found himself caught in the riot.
"I'd left my car at the hospital so my relatives could use it and came to Fashion Street by taxi at about 3.00 pm. I was outside the CST bus depot when I saw the rioters.

In the crowd I noticed a boy writhing in pain at the depot and went to help him. I don't know where the bullet came from but it hit me in my left upper thigh. By this time, the boy had died." The boy Khan tried to rescue was later identified as Altaf Shaikh. Both the men were brought to St George Hospital, where Altaf was declared dead.

Khan was shifted to JJ Hospital. "The bullet broke into two as it hit me and exited from the front," he added. Though Khan was aware of the Azad Maidan gathering owing to the SMSes circulating in the days leading up to the riot, he insisted he had nothing to do with the meeting.

Nazar Mohammed Siddique, 36, a truck driver based in Kurla had gone to Masjid Bundar for bank work. Like Junaid, he was on his way back via the JJ flyover along with a friend when a bullet hit him in his buttocks.

"I was riding my bike and had no idea where the bullet came from. I put my hand on the wound and realised I was bleeding and I'd been shot. I stopped about half a kilometre ahead. My friend, who was also riding his bike then took me to JJ Hospital." Siddique claims the bullet destroyed his motorcycle's seat.

The three men have now filed a writ petition in the Bombay High Court through their advocate Ejaz Naqvi, demanding action against police and state authorities.

Mumbai riots: Three survivors of shooting on what they saw | NDTV.com

 

[Joe Shearer]

mate that's exactly what i am trying to say ! (i think you are taking it in other way ).

If we aren't, what's the point of bringing it up? Not for us to behave like fundamentalists, right?

And don't you want to know more about me before you call me mate? I can give you a list of references. After speaking to them, all arch-patriots, ready to fight to the last Indian jawan, you won't want to have anything to do with me again.

@westtowel

Are these stories untrue? What is the point that you want to make? No stories about Muslims which don't show them as murderous rioters?