Altay Comparison to Competitors

[xxxKULxxx]

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The T-14 turret is obviously smaller, It's also more narrow, and even if it was bigger (which it is not) it would not matter since no one sits inside of it.

Half of it, i mean front side of T-14 is so big... And when you look at back of T-14 it looks small but for what ? If a missile enters there(emptiness under turret) it's smallness makes no sense at all... Sorry but that turret is so big including that empty area... That emptiness is not big enough to survive... When a missile enters there it will throw that turret into air... It will not enter there and exit from other side...

And yes as Cabatli said animation video is so different then this real T-14...

 

[cabatli_53]

@ptldM3

Mate, You should respect to the members of this nation who created such a beauty. Take a look the tanks developed by superpowers. They are breaking down during first official passages.

 

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The T-14 turret is obviously smaller, It's also more narrow, and even if it was bigger (which it is not) it would not matter since no one sits inside of it.

That's why posted 2 of the with Humans near so that you could take reference... I would stop struggling if i were in your place.

 

[ptldM3]

Dude, I just asked you that Did you find What you told us about T-14 ? because The tank you described to us in a few days ago, not have any connection with the one introduced by your officials.



You were clearly trolling with your use of "OMG" and "WTF" statements, you now are acting in a passive aggressive manner. As for you last statement, i have no idea what you are trying to say, improve your English.





Then coming here and claiming that It is half of What Altay has in terms of size. Do you really believe on What you are claiming ?

This is funny. You are one of the people that started mentioning the T-14 in this thread not me. Let me repeat that, it is you Turks that keep talking about the T-14 and chest thumping. In terms of size, once again, the T-14 turret is smaller.

Half of it, i mean front side of T-14 is so big... And when you look at back of T-14 it looks small but for what ? If a missile enters there(emptiness under turret) it's smallness makes no sense at all... Sorry but that turret is so big including that empty area... That emptiness is not big enough to survive... When a missile enters there it will throw that turret into air... It will not enter there and exit from other side...

And yes as Cabatli said animation video is so different then this real T-14...

One again, the T-14's turret is smaller, it may appear larger then it actually is because it is narrow, this is nothing more then depth perception. As for the T-14's turret, even if it is blown off there is no one in the turret, and the crew is sealed away in a separate compartment. If the Altay's turret is penetrated the entire crew will die or sustain heavy injuries where as with the T-14 they will not.

 

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WTF. T-14 broken down during parade passage ? OMG...

Some years ago they had a BMD catch on fire on the red square, nazar degmis

 

[ptldM3]

That's why posted 2 of the with Humans near so that you could take reference... I would stop struggling if i were in your place.

You need glasses.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Yes, you Turks have been trolling none stop, as for the T-14's turret, it is clearly smaller then the Altay's turret. More narrow, shorter and tapered off at the end.










At least Russia is not using a bunch of foreign parts and assistance in the T-14.







Look again, the turret is clearly half the size of the Atlay's.






What is there to comment on? You Turks clearly have an inferiority complex with constant chest thumping.

Relax... have a deep breath! there you go...
Bro,

Yes, you Turks have been trolling none stop, as for the T-14's turret, it is clearly smaller then the Altay's turret. More narrow, shorter and tapered off at the end.










At least Russia is not using a bunch of foreign parts and assistance in the T-14.







Look again, the turret is clearly half the size of the Atlay's.






What is there to comment on? You Turks clearly have an inferiority complex with constant chest thumping.

You dont even see the reality. look, how nice we Turks are to you! we try to explain you instead of humilating.. I wonder what comments would you have if you were in CHinese or other sections...
You cant call the white color black.... i think Russia should focus on its Universities.. stop corruption, pay higher salary to professors and so on.. there is no other way to turn the country back to its superity..

 

[cabatli_53]

This is funny. You are one of the people that started mentioning the T-14 in this thread not me. Let me repeat that, it is you Turks that keep talking about the T-14 and chest thumping. In terms of size, once again, the T-14 turret is smaller.

Nothing wrong to talk about two rivalary tanks that is commenced development in similar times. If you ask me, The funny thing is to describe a tank a few days ago which was supposed to be one of the best and unbeatable slopped turret (even better than Merkava) and much smaller-lower thanks to being unmanned When compared with western tanks operated by 4 crew but What We saw is; Put slopped armour shape aside, T-14 is like a big chassis which is putted a big barrel on and moving like that. Isn't it not funny to you ?


Honestly, WTF is that t?

 

[xxxKULxxx]

Guys what are these side by side ?..

 

[ptldM3]

Relax... have a deep breath! there you go...
Bro,




You dont even see the reality. look, how nice we Turks are to you! we try to explain you instead of humilating.. I wonder

Turks in this thread nice? Yea right, more like trolling and chest thumping in every post.

what comments would you have if you were in CHinese or other sections...

None, i only posted once in the Chinese tank section and i was courteous, not rude like like most of you.

You cant call the white color black.... i think Russia should focus on its Universities.. stop corruption, pay higher salary to professors and so on.. there is no other way to turn the country back to its superity..

Another passive attempt to troll.





@Oscar @Horus i am sick of being quoted and tagged in this thread. The Turks hear are trolling and acting childish. If they want to discuss the T-14 make them go to the T-14 thread. The derailing of threads, trolling and chest thumping is getting out of hand.


@cabatli_53 @Kamil_baku like i said, if you want to talk smack about the t-14 at least go do it in the T-14 thread where the playing field is more even. But in reality i have seen members get warnings and temporary bans for what you are doing.

 

[billiejean]

So according to the pic the front side of turret won't be inclined right?

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[Kamil_baku]

This is funny. You are one of the people that started mentioning the T-14 in this thread not me. Let me repeat that, it is you Turks that keep talking about the T-14 and chest thumping. In terms of size, once again, the T-14 turret is smaller.










One again, the T-14's turret is smaller, it may appear larger then it actually is because it is narrow, this is nothing more then depth perception. As for the T-14's turret, even if it is blown off there is no one in the turret, and the crew is sealed away in a separate compartment. If the Altay's turret is penetrated the entire crew will die or sustain heavy injuries where as with the T-14 they will not.

In todays warfare, it doesnt that much matter how small your turret. Altay got modern FCS(fire control system) and also all those new IFV and so on.. got guided missiles.. basically, you cant run away by just having smaller turret. i feel like you have no technology education other than Russian sources..
the main objective of the tank, is not to have unmanned Turret. it doesnt make the tank superier.. the things matter is the engine(mobility), maneuvers.., protection(soft, hard- show me your hard kill..), electronics and so on... Russia cant even build its modern thermal cameras.. You bought previous ones from France..
i hope you can hear me.. since i know you, you always talk about unmanned turret, but dont event understand the whole concept..

Turks in this thread nice? Yea right, more like trolling and chest thumping in every post.







None, i only posted once in the Chinese tank section and i was courteous, not rude like like most of you.







Another passive attempt to troll.





@Oscar i am sick of being quoted and tagged in this thread. The Turks hear are trolling and acting like kids. If they want to discuss the T-14 make them go to the T-14 thread.


@cabatli_53 @Kamil_baku like i told Oscar, if you want to talk smack about the t-14 at least go do it in the T-14 thread where the playing field is more even. But in reality i have seen members get warnings and temporary bans for what you are doing.

If Oscar checks the previous posts, he can see that you actually bringed your T-14 photo, spesification and "Superity" into this post. I feel sorry for you dude. go to have a Russian sauna..

 

[xxxKULxxx]

So according to the pic the front side of turret won't be inclined right?

Yes...

 

[ptldM3]

In todays warfare, it doesnt that much matter how small your turret. Altay got

If Oscar checks the previous posts, he can see that you actually bringed your T-14 photo, spesification and "Superity" into this post. I feel sorry for you dude. go to have a Russian sauna..

Go back in the thread, and see who mentioned the T-14 first. As for the T-14 picture, that was the only T-14 picture i posted in this thread and was only after you Turks kept posting T-14 pictures and comparing it to the Altay.

In todays warfare, it doesnt that much matter how small your turret. Altay got modern FCS(fire control system) and also all those new IFV and so on.. got guided missiles..

Wow fire control system, omg i can't believe the Atlay has a FCS, tanks from the 1950s have had those, what else does the Altay have? Wheels?

the main objective of the tank, is not to have unmanned Turret. it doesnt make the tank superier.. the things matter is the engine(mobility), maneuvers.., protection(soft, hard- show me your hard kill..), electronics and so on...

This is silly, with an unmanned turret the chances of survivability increases drastically. It's simple Atlay turret gets penetrated, the crew dies. T-14's turret gets penetrated the crew lives, i'm not sure why you can not grasp this idea. As for mobility the Altay is one of the heavier tanks today, i would not brag about mobility. The T-14's "hard kill" system is also the Afganit.

Russia cant even build its modern thermal cameras.. You bought previous ones from France..

Another troll attempt Russia can built thermals and it has built them, just because some T-90 varients used a French thermal does not mean it can not built them. By your logic Turkey can not built anything on it's own.

 

[cabatli_53]

T-14 can compete with our Korkut in terms of size.

Korkut

Another troll attempt Russia can built thermals and it has built them, just because some T-90 varients used a French thermal does not mean it can not built them. By your logic Turkey can not built anything on it's own.

Don't forget your attack helicopters using French Sagem optic solutions.