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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

  • Total voters
    119
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I have been to Xinjiang. Most of the bureaucracy and police force is Uighur. I have never been to a camp but I also don't believe a million people have been locked up inside a camp. That would be a logistical nightmare. Besides officials from 10 different countries have visited these camps and they gave the green signal. I'm not denying there's no social tension between the Uighur and Han, but it's not sanctioned by the state.
Those overseas Pakistanis on the order of their adopted master try desperate to stir trouble for Pakistan. Do they really care about Pakistan? They care more about their adopted countries. They dont care about right or wrong. They only meant to serve their own agenda.
 
I will do that later ....unless some other mod does it


Kindly don't troll...civilised people don't talk like that...

If you dont like something keep your opinion to yourself and stop spreading hatred it is reason enough to get you banned
Kindly mind it
Not trolling. I am a Christian but I give two fucks to religion. I believe Jesus was just a man and not a God. We've been fooled for too long into believe someone who fooled us. Today's magician will make Jesus look like an ordinary man.
My reply above @Pakhtoon yum
 
How come? China maybe wronged some countries in the past but China has never wronged Pakistan during the whole course of the history.
Some Pakistanis are radical islamist. They are born with religion inbred in them and are extremist. They place religion even before their family let alone their country. They should just go join the ISIS. Yes, that's the correct way to describe them.
 
Not trolling. I am a Christian but I give two fucks to religion. I believe Jesus was just a man and not a God. We've been fooled for too long into believe someone who fooled us. Today's magician will make Jesus look like an ordinary man.
My reply above @Pakhtoon yum
Good for you....Now, like you dont care about religion, who should bother abt what you care for?
 
Fake Pakistanis. What Pakistan do doesn't concern you. You have no right to speak for Pakistan. Go speak for your Canada.
I'm a Pakistani citizen, I have full right to speak and do. This also gives me full rights to voting again and alien concept to you.
@OsmanAli98 @Nilgiri @Well.wisher @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan
Apprently, according to him I'm fake

Not trolling. I am a Christian but I give two fucks to religion. I believe Jesus was just a man and not a God. We've been fooled for too long into believe someone who fooled us. Today's magician will make Jesus look like an ordinary man.
My reply above @Pakhtoon yum
I didnt ask for you background story, that your opinion and it's just that. Why do Chinese find the concept of others culture so hard to digest? There is a thing called respect. Learn it
 
I'm a Pakistani citizen, I have full right to speak and do. This also gives me full rights to voting again and alien concept to you.
@OsmanAli98 @Nilgiri @Well.wisher @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan
Apprently, according to him I'm fake


I didnt ask for you background story, that your opinion and it's just that. Why do Chinese find the concept of others culture so hard to digest? There is a thing called respect. Learn it
Are we talking about culture? Look, you're getting yourself confused. I hope you know the difference between culture and religion.
I first responded to you about religion and you're talking about culture. Wow.. Just wow...

Good for you....Now, like you dont care about religion, who should bother abt what you care for?
Then why bother to even reply? I thought you didn't care.
 
Hello, ignorant person
Northern Pakistan has been the most peaceful region in all of south Asia. This just shows your knowledge about the whole situation


You should Stop breathing while your at it. @WebMaster @waz


Oh plz. A Pakistani questioning what's going on doesnt make him an idiot, brainwashed by the west. I know it's hard for you to grasp the idea of free thought, knowing the situation of the country you live in.


Why so lenient, huh?

Lmao what a joke, I know the situation better than you ever will and I know that Northern Pakistan is one of the center of terrorism.
 
You should Stop breathing while your at it.
Mind your language child! Irrespective of what and how people approach a problem...I want YOU in your best behaviour!

Then why bother to even reply? I thought you didn't care
I do care about the direction this thread is going due to your insecurities :coffee:

Why so lenient, huh?
Because you people are just fighting like idiots on nothing! And being an idiot is not a punishable crime [unfortunately]
 
Are we talking about culture? Look, you're getting yourself confused. I hope you know the difference between culture and religion.
I first responded to you about religion and you're talking about culture. Wow.. Just wow...


Then why bother to even reply? I thought you didn't care.
Concept of religion and culture falls on the same moral principles
 
lol, what footage? It's just satellite pictures of buildings.

Guess you didn't even watch the whole video, what can I expect from a troll?

Have you?

I asked the question first, have you?

Why the news from Jakarta Post, about Muhammadiyah (Indonesian Islamic Organization) officials fact finder in Xinjiang is vanish from this thread? Does the witness from Indonesian respected Islamic Organization is not worthed to be mentioned in this Xinjiang issue?

I give the benefit of the doubt to the mods in this matter. Because I trust them. Because, maybe it is unintentional act.

Because we don't follow paid actors or back bending servants.

If Catholicism, Protestantism and Judaism are not the tags for extremism. "Islamism" should NOT be the tag for extremism. I guess it was invented by Zionist.

Please stop using Islamism. Seriously.

Right, finally a Chinese poster that knows what he's talking about and makes sense...

There is no such thing as "Islamism" or "Islamic Terrorism"....terrorism is terrorism...it has no religion....anyone saying otherwise is trying to paint a group.

Plus, the Uyghurs have the right to self-defense, their ancestral region is under scrutiny from PRC and thousands are in detention camps just because they follow a particular religion.

PRC have also been importing Han Chinese into Xinjiang for decades, trying to dilute the population and representation of the Uyghurs.

I recommend all pakistani members to stop targeting Chinese on this Muslim issue.china has Muslim population even in Beijing.remember they are our friends and not our enemies.they helped us so many times and Muslim issue in China is Chinese internal matter.china is not a nation who can kill it's own citizens and who are we to criticize? We should look at our own country first.unity between China and Pakistan is necessary.whatever Chinese are doing in camps is their own internal matter.pakistan is not master of entire Muslim world.you guys are following this Muslim issue like it's our own issue.why you guys don't work hard like Chinese and follow their footsteps so that we can also make our country prosperous? I urge every Chinese and pakistani friend to stop arguing with each other.i respect China as a nation and China also respects us.

lol keep bending the knee...

While you brothers and sisters are being forced to eat pork, shave their beards, not wear hijab, their mosques get demolished and they're put in detention camps just because they follow Islam much better than you or me.

It's people like you who don't act at the proper time that leads to the persecution of Muslims, may those be Palestinians, Kashmiris, Rohingya or Uyghurs.

Acting innocent? I can bet your post delete are fill with personal insult and generalise whole Chinese, full with vulgarity.

Post any posts of mine that have any insult against anyone....I'm not a troll. I'm just demolishing the half-truths and lies spread on PDF.

I have never been to a camp but I also don't believe a million people have been locked up inside a camp. That would be a logistical nightmare.

I guess locking up Jews was also a logistical nightmare...

It has been done and is being done...thousands of Uyghurs have come out and talked about it. They have even setup their own Congress outside of China to spread the news about their persecution.

Here, there are multiple articles on their site: https://www.uyghurcongress.org/en/

And this:

PROMINENT UYGHUR WRITER DIES AFTER BEING DEPRIVED TREATMENT IN XINJIANG INTERNMENT CAMP

https://www.uyghurcongress.org/en/p...prived-treatment-in-xinjiang-internment-camp/

Besides officials from 10 different countries have visited these camps and they gave the green signal.

If you can backup this claim with a link, that would be appreciated.

'm not denying there's no social tension between the Uighur and Han, but it's not sanctioned by the state.

Right....I guess the PRC didn't move millions of Han Chinese to Xinjiang over the last decade so that they could dilute the Uyghur pop. right?

It must be for nicer reasons? :D

Just like the British moving their people to the Americas to outsettle the Native Americans. :rolleyes:

Oh and did you also know that most Uyghur in Xinjiang and the rest of China occupy low/mid paying jobs while the Han occupy mid/high paying ones? Even in their own region!

Did you see that too in your visit or not? Maybe the Han Chinese tourist guide only showed you the "good parts" of the region/city. :D
 
Some Pakistanis are radical islamist. They are born with religion inbred in them and are extremist. They place religion even before their family let alone their country. They should just go join the ISIS. Yes, that's the correct way to describe them.

Kindly, mind your own business.

If you do not understand or believe Islam, don’t speak about our faith.

This is why Pakistanis are skeptical, when Chinese abuse Islam it confirms Western propaganda that you are anti-Islam.
 
Fake Pakistanis. What Pakistan do doesn't concern you. You have no right to speak for Pakistan. Go speak for your Canada.

Our Pukhtoon brothers are part and parcel of this country since the beginning of Pakistan, and fought with us in every war against our enemies.

Don’t insult our patriotic brother. We Pakistanis are one and the same.

We may have different opinions about China, but you are not the one to decide who is a real Pakistani.
 
Our Pukhtoon brothers are part and parcel of this country since the beginning of Pakistan, and fought with us in every war against our enemies.

Don’t insult our patriotic brother. We Pakistanis are one and the same.

We may have different opinions about China, but you are not the one to decide who is a real Pakistani.

Different individuals have differing opinions on countries fo example I despise Saudi Arabia(leadership some of its people)and UAE tho lot of my countrymen lie them opinions vary at end of the its a fourm
 
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