ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[beijingwalker]

Oh don't worry, it's not me making the claims. It's uighurs who've made many of these claims and also a few kazakh workers who got caught up in the whole thing in east turkestan.

It doesn't matter, everyone can make a claim, but we won't change a bit, it's a highly successful policy, just like the west always wants to change China into their likes, they never succeed over 70 years and now it seems that they are going to lose their global dominanence very soon.

 

[Numerous]

It doesn't matter, everyone can make a claim, but we won't change a bit, it's a highly successful policy, just like the west always wants to change China into their likes, they never succeed over 70 years and now it seems that they are going to lose their global dominanence very soon.

Don't worry, the west hate Islam as much as you guys do. Secretly they're probably jealous that they can't openly do the same oppression to Muslims lol.

 

[beijingwalker]

Don't worry, the west hate Islam as much as you guys do. Secretly they're probably jealous that they can't openly do the same oppression to Muslims lol.

OK, whatever, they are on their way out after squeezing China for so many decades. We are up and coming.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Not only the US, Russia and China but now even the UN hates Islamism. Your days of hiding behind moderate Muslims are over. Get ready to be re-educated!

From pakistani friend to this kind of behavior? Topics like religion are very sensitive topics.you can do whatever you want in your country but please don't mock Muslims.

 

[Itachi]

No terrorism in China just like there's no terrorism in Pakistan! Islamist extremists are actually Chinese communists with long beards!

Terrorism in Pakistan is different than the one in China, just like it's different in India vs. Pakistan.

One is a foreign funded movement while the Uighur is a home grown movement. You can't deny it. What you can do is open threads on PDF and troll those that put forth the truth.


On topic:

Some mod has deleted two of my posts on this thread.

When have I trolled and insulted someone? Look at these Chinese trolls and propagandists...they open 10 threads on PDF each day to showcase Uyghurs living a good and happy life.....and when someone says otherwise, they start trolling that person, his country of origin and the country he's currently living in.

Looks like the mods are taking sides too rather than accept the truth and the reality.

 

[Itachi]

They accuse China of persecuting Christians, Muslima, Buddists, Falungong practitioners...but the truth is what the government tries to do is to keep the harmonious and peaceful coexistance of all cultures and religions so they don't come to each other's throats, no radicalism is allowed to all religions and atheism.

After hundreds of Han people were massacred in 2009's Urumqi riot, tens of thousands young Han people went out to the street armed with iron sticks and machetes asking for Uighur blood, the government quickly sent in police force and dispersed them and there were almost no Uighur casualties incurred, Urumqi is a heavily Han dominated city, they will kill all Uighurs if the government didn't step in and stop them, you are going to see another Rohingya in Xinjiang.

lol such lies...

The 2009 Urumqi Riots started after the killing of 2 Uyghurs (more killed according to independent media) in the Shaoguan incident where a group of Han Chinese killed Uyghurs working in a toy factory. A Han Chinese worker at the factory even claimed to have killed 5-8 Uyghurs (very proudly; disgusting creatures).

So, after these incidents, the Urumqi protests started in the Xinjiang region to protest the killings of their fellow ethnic members. Rioting began after police confronted the peaceful march and started using excessive force. Han Chinese were killed after they confronted the protestors too.

Urumqi is a heavily Han dominated city

That is because the Chinese government re-settled whole Xinjiang region with Han Chinese people from outside the region so as to dilute the population of the Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities.

You can stop spreading half truths and lies on PDF. We all can use the internet to find and spread the truth.

 

[Rasengan]

I don't believe in western propaganda. Things are difficult between the Uighur and Han. But the state isn't prosecuting the Uighur's based upon religion.

 

[Itachi]

I don't believe in western propaganda. Things are difficult between the Uighur and Han. But the state isn't prosecuting the Uighur's based upon religion.

This seem like "Western propaganda" too?

Uyghurs have come out with thousands of stories of their torture within these "reeducation camps".....also, a thing to note, Hitler also called his gas camps "reeducation camps".

And you think Erdogan and the whole of Turkey are liars too??

Wake up from your dream bro......Chinese gang members have been caught in illegal prostitution....and still you think everything against China is "Western Propaganda"....they're also teaching Chinese to Baluchis...(guess why?) but not to the Punjabis/Sindhis cuz they don't matter...only the resource rich province does.

 

[Rasengan]

This seem like "Western propaganda" too?

Uyghurs have come out with thousands of stories of their torture within these "reeducation camps".....also, a thing to note, Hitler also called his gas camps "reeducation camps".

And you think Erdogan and the whole of Turkey are liars too??

Wake up from your dream bro......Chinese gang members have been caught in illegal prostitution....and still you think everything against China is "Western Propaganda"....they're also teaching Chinese to Baluchis...(guess why?) but not to the Punjabis/Sindhis cuz they don't matter...only the resource rich province does.

Have you been to China? I have several times, so I don't need to read a report from a western source like the rest the sheep who are fooled by them. Hitler never called his gas chambers as reeducation camps. The gas chambers only came into existence after the Wannsee Conference in 1942 and even that was kept secret until the Americans found a document detailing its existence.

What does Chinese gangs have to do with the Chinese state? I can give you a dozen examples where Pakistani citizens have broken the law outside of Pakistan. Their actions don't represent the state. They are teaching Chinese across Pakistan. In fact, under Zardari's Govt they introduced it first in Sindh. I have great respect for Turkey but that doesn't mean I believe everything coming from their mouth. Things aren't great, there is definitely some social tension between the Uighur and the Han. However, it has nothing to do with religion. The Chinese state like the Pakistani state has every right to stop rebels who demand independence.

 

[beijingwalker]

lol such lies...

The 2009 Urumqi Riots started after the killing of 2 Uyghurs (more killed according to independent media) in the Shaoguan incident where a group of Han Chinese killed Uyghurs working in a toy factory.

Did Chinese government kill the two Uighurs? It's a factory brawl which happens all the time, a Chinese worker was killed in Bangladesh recently in such a brawl, does China have to attack all Bangladeshis because of it? The killers were arrested and executed, justice was done.

You can stop spreading half truths and lies on PDF. We all can use the internet to find and spread the truth.

So you have to deal with it, all my resources are also from the internet.

Do you suggest that Chinese government shouldn't do anything and let communal violence go on , wait it out to see who wins in the end? Han will definitely win with a vast superior number.

 

[TheTruth]

This seem like "Western propaganda" too?

Uyghurs have come out with thousands of stories of their torture within these "reeducation camps".....also, a thing to note, Hitler also called his gas camps "reeducation camps".

And you think Erdogan and the whole of Turkey are liars too??

Wake up from your dream bro......Chinese gang members have been caught in illegal prostitution....and still you think everything against China is "Western Propaganda"....they're also teaching Chinese to Baluchis...(guess why?) but not to the Punjabis/Sindhis cuz they don't matter...only the resource rich province does.

All fake news from Ameribitches. lol, Vox.

 

[beijingwalker]

Indonesian Islamic Leader supports China over Xinjiang
Government and independent officials in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Islamic country, have dismissed assertions by the United States and human rights group that China is abusing millions of predominantly Uighur Muslims in internment camps as “American propaganda,” a report by an Indonesian think-tank revealed this week.
Echoing the Indonesian government’s position, Agung Danarto, a top official from one of largest Islamic organizations in Indonesia — Muhammadiyah — praised China's vocational centers aiming at combating separatism, religious extremism, and terrorism.

“The camps are great, there [the students] are given life-skills training, and so forth. They get lessons in agriculture, restaurant operation, cooking, and automotive repair,” Danarto declared after visiting Xinjiang, according to the report issued Thursday by the Institute for Policy Analysis of Conflict (IPAC).

Face of Indonesian Islam: NU, Muhammadiyah nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/06/21/face-of-indonesian-islam-nu-muhammadiyah-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize.html

 

[Brainsucker]

Indonesian Islamic Leader supports China over Xinjiang
Government and independent officials in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Islamic country, have dismissed assertions by the United States and human rights group that China is abusing millions of predominantly Uighur Muslims in internment camps as “American propaganda,” a report by an Indonesian think-tank revealed this week.
Echoing the Indonesian government’s position, Agung Danarto, a top official from one of largest Islamic organizations in Indonesia — Muhammadiyah — praised China's vocational centers aiming at combating separatism, religious extremism, and terrorism.

“The camps are great, there [the students] are given life-skills training, and so forth. They get lessons in agriculture, restaurant operation, cooking, and automotive repair,” Danarto declared after visiting Xinjiang, according to the report issued Thursday by the Institute for Policy Analysis of Conflict (IPAC).

Face of Indonesian Islam: NU, Muhammadiyah nominated for Nobel Peace Prize
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2019/06/21/face-of-indonesian-islam-nu-muhammadiyah-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize.html

@Dubious bro,

Actually, Our religion organizations have sent our delegations to Xinjiang, China to seek the truth from the ground zero. And I'm sure Pakistan has also do the same. So what's Pakistan delegation said about Xinjiang?

So why use Unknown resource from the western and Turkey propaganda while Pakistan government can send their official delegation to China? Should I believe in random youtube posters that claim about re-education camp, or should I believe in my own prestigious Islamic Organization that sent their delegation to Xinjiang?

What about Pakistani posters in here? Which source that they can trust? Don't Pakistan send their own fact seeker delegation to Xinjiang? What about our Muslim Organization officials; can they trust ours or prefer to believe in Western-Propaganda?

I don't think that Turkey source can be trusted in term of Uyghur Xinjiang matter. Because they're not neutral. They have political agenda that aim to Xinjiang; that's why they call Xinjiang as East Turkistan. The matter of Uyghur should be seen from the eyes of Islamic neutral parties. Like Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, and others. So their seek finding won't have any political agenda behind them.

Have you been to China? I have several times, so I don't need to read a report from a western source like the rest the sheep who are fooled by them. Hitler never called his gas chambers as reeducation camps. The gas chambers only came into existence after the Wannsee Conference in 1942 and even that was kept secret until the Americans found a document detailing its existence.

What does Chinese gangs have to do with the Chinese state? I can give you a dozen examples where Pakistani citizens have broken the law outside of Pakistan. Their actions don't represent the state. They are teaching Chinese across Pakistan. In fact, under Zardari's Govt they introduced it first in Sindh. I have great respect for Turkey but that doesn't mean I believe everything coming from their mouth. Things aren't great, there is definitely some social tension between the Uighur and the Han. However, it has nothing to do with religion. The Chinese state like the Pakistani state has every right to stop rebels who demand independence.

Edit : Ups, sorry @Rasengan, I wanted to quote Itachi, but wrongfully quote you instead.

This seem like "Western propaganda" too?

Uyghurs have come out with thousands of stories of their torture within these "reeducation camps".....also, a thing to note, Hitler also called his gas camps "reeducation camps".

And you think Erdogan and the whole of Turkey are liars too??

Wake up from your dream bro......Chinese gang members have been caught in illegal prostitution....and still you think everything against China is "Western Propaganda"....they're also teaching Chinese to Baluchis...(guess why?) but not to the Punjabis/Sindhis cuz they don't matter...only the resource rich province does.

What about you? Do you believe Indonesian Muslim Organization fact finder who go to Xinjiang themselves or American Propaganda? Do you believe a prestigious Muslim Organization official from Indonesia or Muslim Killer Country Propaganda? That's up to you.

 

[Itachi]

Have you been to China?

Have you been to Xinjiang? Have you seen those internment and "reeducation camps"??

All fake news from Ameribitches. lol, Vox.

Right....I guess the footage is "fake" also. You seem to be high or something.

Actually, Our religion organizations have sent our delegations to Xinjiang, China to seek the truth from the ground zero. And I'm sure Pakistan has also do the same. So what's Pakistan delegation said about Xinjiang?

lol they show you want they want you to see, not what's actually there. There are thousands of Uyghurs outside China that have detailed stories of persecution and the World Uyghur Congress was made by Uyghurs to combat such treatment by China.

All those that think there are no "internment camps", watch the whole video I posted above (Post #20) and read this article too:

PROMINENT UYGHUR WRITER DIES AFTER BEING DEPRIVED TREATMENT IN XINJIANG INTERNMENT CAMP

https://www.uyghurcongress.org/en/p...prived-treatment-in-xinjiang-internment-camp/

 

[TheTruth]

Have you been to Xinjiang? Have you seen those internment and "reeducation camps"??

lol, what footage? It's just satellite pictures of buildings.