ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[OIO]

Which other country in modern history needs to erase a culture to fight terrorism?
No one disputes that Xinjiang is legally Chinese territory, it is your methods are far far too extreme to deal with your problems in that territory.

Uighurs' culture is back actually. Chinese don't have extreme mind, but will be more tough after being pushed.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What "fact-finding" is required?
China has a stated policy to destroy Uighur culture and most Chinese pdf posters are no longer hiding this.
Would love for Pakistan and BD to join in talking about this criminal behaviour as well.

If you don't trust Western media as we Pakistanis, then you will need to find out the facts for yourself.

We witnessed their lies which led the world to support their illegal destruction and occupation of Afghanistan, their sham Osama hunt in Pakistan (when he died in 2002 in Tora Bora,) and their manipulative rhetoric and terrorism funding from Afghan safe houses against Pakistan for the last 20 years, which killed 75,000 of our people.

This is why what Indonesia is doing is very important, and more Muslim countries should join the cause.

Pakistan's official position right now is simply, "We don't have all the facts to make any policy decisions."

This is because we do not buy into Western scapegoating against China or any other country. We were one of the few which supported the government of Venezuela against US pressure at the UN.

We are going to need some more concrete facts and figures, Indonesia and Turkey are much more reliable for this than the biased, manipulative West.

 

[UKBengali]

If you don't trust Western media as we Pakistanis, then you will need to find out the facts for yourself.

We witnessed their lies which led the world to support their illegal destruction and occupation of Afghanistan, their shame Osama hunt in Pakistan (when he died in 2002 in Tora Bora,) and their manipulative rhetoric and terrorism funding from Afghan safe houses against Pakistan for the last 20 years, which killed 75,000 of our people.

This is why what Indonesia is doing is very important, and more Muslim countries should join the cause.

Pakistan's official position right now is simply, "We don't have all the facts to make any policy decisions."

This is because we do not buy into Western scapegoating against China or any other country. We were one of the few which supported the government of Venezuela against US pressure at the UN.

We are going to need some more concrete facts and figures, Indonesia and Turkey are much more reliable for this than the biased, manipulative West.

Ok fair enough.
Time for China to allow a Muslim delegation full access to Xinjiang to find out for real.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Taking loans and buying weapons from China is just business.

China gets richer and BD also becomes richer and deters India.

Both countries win, what is the problem?

It is business also for Pakistan, please understand.

We have the same enemies like you, which is RSS India, but we have an additional nefarious alliance against us in the shape of US-Israel and its slaves like KSA/UAE.

Pakistan has to live in this reality where we are surrounded by hostile neighbors on all sides (India, Iran, Oman, Afghanistan, now KSA/UAE) and only China is safe for us.

Alhamdulilah Afghanistan woke up and becoming our ally once more, and Turkey is always there for us.

Uyghurs are our blood relatives of our people of GB, we intermarry often with them and share the same culture. Aside from Turkey, Pakistan hosts the most Uyghurs. We are invested in finding a solution to benefit our Uygur relatives.

Arabization is destroying Uighurs' culture.

Please keep your personal opinions out of this conversation, you only do disservice to your great nation.

@mike2000 is back @ZeEa5KPul

Don't talk about matters which you do not understand. Muslims ruled from Eastern Europe to India, which was no easy feat.

So-called heroes of Uyghurs spreading your Hope's and dreams for Muslim weakness.

 

[lonelyman]

Indonesia Is Not Silent On Uighur: Foreign Minister
BY :NUR YASMIN

DECEMBER 27, 2019

Muslim protesters stage a rally to protest against alleged oppression on China's Uighur Muslim communities in front of the Central Sulawesi's legislative council building in Palu, Central Sulawesi on Dec. 13, 2019. (Antara Photo/Basri Marzuki)

Jakarta. Indonesia has been actively communicating with China on Uighur issues to raise concern about freedom of religion among the Muslim-majority ethnic group in China's westernmost Xinjiang province, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi said on Friday.

The Indonesian government and moderate Islamic groups like Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah have been in the spotlights in the past weeks for their perceived silence over alleged persecution against the Uighur ethnic group.

Retno said she met with her Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on Dec. 16 and Chinese Ambassador for Indonesia Xiao Qian on Monday.

“We have been communicating continuously with the Chinese government to express and request information regarding the situation,” Retno said after attending a meeting at the Coordinating Ministry for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs’ compound in Central Jakarta.

She said Indonesia is actively engaging diplomatic measures on the issue.

“We had a pretty long talk with the [Chinese] foreign minister, and we stressed about the importance of freedom of religion. So, it’s not true that we are not doing anything, check our social media record,” Retno said.


https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesia-is-not-silent-on-uighur-foreign-minister

Yeah, by mouth war like Indians? Why don’t you come fight with China?

 

[925boy]

Indonesia Is Not Silent On Uighur: Foreign Minister
BY :NUR YASMIN

DECEMBER 27, 2019

Muslim protesters stage a rally to protest against alleged oppression on China's Uighur Muslim communities in front of the Central Sulawesi's legislative council building in Palu, Central Sulawesi on Dec. 13, 2019. (Antara Photo/Basri Marzuki)

Jakarta. Indonesia has been actively communicating with China on Uighur issues to raise concern about freedom of religion among the Muslim-majority ethnic group in China's westernmost Xinjiang province, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi said on Friday.

The Indonesian government and moderate Islamic groups like Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah have been in the spotlights in the past weeks for their perceived silence over alleged persecution against the Uighur ethnic group.

Retno said she met with her Chinese counterpart Wang Yi on Dec. 16 and Chinese Ambassador for Indonesia Xiao Qian on Monday.

“We have been communicating continuously with the Chinese government to express and request information regarding the situation,” Retno said after attending a meeting at the Coordinating Ministry for Political, Legal, and Security Affairs’ compound in Central Jakarta.

She said Indonesia is actively engaging diplomatic measures on the issue.

“We had a pretty long talk with the [Chinese] foreign minister, and we stressed about the importance of freedom of religion. So, it’s not true that we are not doing anything, check our social media record,” Retno said.


https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesia-is-not-silent-on-uighur-foreign-minister

Indonesia seems to be claiming the throne for leader of Muslim South East Asian countries. Proud of this maturity and competency.

 

[Surya 1]

Hats off to Indonesia. This is the one Muslim country which is dare to question Barbaric China. Most others are busy in licking China's feet.

 

[925boy]

There is restriction but no oppression or prosecution.

Then Chinese people like you have a different understanding of the meaning of oppression and prosecution than us outside China.

 

[OBLiTeRate TrumpTurd]

Wow, there are so many GULLIBLE and BRAINWASHED Muslims and
( Undisputed Cockroaches MURICAN ) * Muslim SLAVES on PDF.

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How many people from the Muslim world are aware & recognizing that ... ...

#1) there are many, many Uyghur Chinese Female PLAN officers & many male officers too ( who usually always command very FLUENT English ) on board PLAN aircraft carriers CV-16 & CV-17.

PROOF:
There are so many CV-16 & CV-17 videos showing these fact above.


#2) being the PLAN officers working on board aircraft carriers CV-16 & CV-17
are such ... EXTREMELY PRESTIGIOUS & ADMIRABLE positions in Chinese society.

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Unfortunately Wonderful Uyghur facts above never get out to the outside world, because too many Chinese are extremely SHORT SIGHTED and extremely INFERIOR in POSITIVE public relation skills.

@UKBengali ,, @Pakhtoon yum ,, @Syed Hammad Ahmed ,, @Petrichor

@ZeEa5KPul

 

[925boy]

Which other country in modern history needs to erase a culture to fight terrorism?
No one disputes that Xinjiang is legally Chinese territory, it is your methods are far far too extreme to deal with your problems in that territory.

I agree.

IF China really feels its not doing anything wrong, then let it open the suspected facilities up to surprise and unrestricted access to international NGO personnel. If CHina has nothing to hide then why is it hiding these sites from international public????

Ok fair enough.
Time for China to allow a Muslim delegation full access to Xinjiang to find out for real.

if they have nothing to hide, and these are known friendly/not enemy nations to China, i dont see why China will decline this offer..

 

[FedererExpress]

There is absolutely nothing to clarify. The totalitarian Communist dictatorship is running concentration camps. This is what the Nazis did in the 1930’s and 1940’s.

Here is video evidence of Communist China’s concentration camps. This is in Korla city. We are dealing with pure evil folks. Pure evil. These are human beings they are doing this to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176352558534799360

I just see overly riled up Chinese kids trolling on Turkey and Pakistan, nothing else. It is not like this is the policy of CCP or China.

If you think this is just the behaviour of bunch of Chinese kids you really haven’t been around Han Chinese people. If you did, you would quickly realise Han Chinese are the most racist group of people you will ever come across. There is a reason Vietnamese, Japanese, Koreans all hate the Han Chinese with a burning passion. It’s due to the grotesque racism spewed by the Han Chinese. Han Chinese are racist to any non-Han Chinese especially people of brown and black skin colour and other Asians. Get to know a few of them and it will hit you like a bolt of lightning. There are racists, and then there are the Han Chinese racists. I’m speaking from experience of talking to Han Chinese at University and at work.

 

[thewayoftheworld]

There is absolutely nothing to clarify. The totalitarian Communist dictatorship is running concentration camps. This is what the Nazis did in the 1930’s and 1940’s.

Here is video evidence of Communist China’s concentration camps. This is in Korla city. We are dealing with pure evil folks. Pure evil. These are human beings they are doing this to.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1176352558534799360

If you think this is just the behaviour of bunch of Chinese kids you really haven’t been around Han Chinese people. If you did, you would quickly realise Han Chinese are the most racist group of people you will ever come across. There is a reason Vietnamese, Japanese, Koreans all hate the Han Chinese with a burning passion. It’s due to the grotesque racism spewed by the Han Chinese. Han Chinese are racist to any non-Han Chinese especially people of brown and black skin colour and other Asians. Get to know a few of them and it will hit you like a bolt of lightning. There are racists, and then there are the Han Chinese racists. I’m speaking from experience of talking to Han Chinese at University and at work.

I disagree. I think AngloAmerican are the most racist. They have a superiority complex and think everyone is beneath them. They are also very violent. Anglo American society justified genocide through white supremacy. They have racist names for all nonwhite races. Very dehumanizing names. Chinese are so much tamer. Chinese doesn’t go around the world and promote their supremacy but Anglo white supremacy permeates through all their media.

 

[FedererExpress]

I disagree. I think AngloAmerican are the most racist. They have a superiority complex and think everyone is beneath them. They are also very violent. Anglo American society justified genocide through white supremacy. They have racist names for all nonwhite races. Very dehumanizing names. Chinese are so much tamer. Chinese doesn’t go around the world and promote their supremacy but Anglo white supremacy permeates through all their media.

Anglosphere are the least racist nations on earth. We allow immigrants to come to our countries, allow them to be citizens, allow them to vote, allow them to practice their religion, allow them to build religious places of worship, allow them to dress however they like.

We don’t believe in racial supremacy like the Han Chinese do. We are multicultural countries that have people of many ethnicities in many important positions in society. We believe in the supremacy of universal values such as Democracy, rule of law, independent judiciary, right to a lawyer, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to assemble, etc. These universal values have nothing to do with race. These universal values are supported by immigrants in our countries and many countries all around the world.

What exactly do we do that are racist?

 

[艹艹艹]

Yeah and that is why even Pakistan rejected Chinese attack helicopter and brought Turkish instead.
BD has also placed an order for 18 Turkish T-300B MLRS units with range of 120km and considering the 300km range T-300A.

In 10 years Turkey will be able to supply the Muslim world with virtually all civilian and military tech. China will be out of business in those two areas for lots of Muslim countries.




BD is growing 8% a year and expected to stay at least 7% till 2030. Do the math at how quickly BD is progressing just like China managed from 2000 till now.

Dhaka is having massive infrastructure investments and slums are being torn down and replaced with flats at breakneck speeds.



Many more than China it seems.

Nope it is all Turkish apart from the US engine - just based on Italian design though.

Uses Turkish radar, avionics and missiles.
Turkey can export to anyone apart from US and Italy and so that proves that the tech is Turkish

Guess what? Philippines is also going to take 10 helicopters for a total of 40 exported.
BD was looking to get Turkish T-129 but decided to go for US AH-64E.
Chinese Z-10 has exported precisely zero so far







Turkey is building a 5th gen aircraft and it will be able to make everything apart from the engine for it. It is working with UK on this project.

Your J-20 uses a 4th generation WS-10B engine and so talk when it has WS-15 installed as it is not true 5th gen jet yet



Turkey has learnt enough from the West and is making their own tech now.

They have a GDP per capita at PPP of 30,000 US dollars, far more than the 20,000 US dollars of China and so they are well developed with population of 80 million. They also are expected to grow 3-4% a year average and so should catch up with Western Europe by around 2030. You think a country of near 100 million people by 2030 with GDP per capita on the level of Western Europe is not going to be fully developed?

Of course Turkey will have a massive market for it's defence products in the Muslim world and they will sell billions of US dollars per year in the 2020s just to other Muslims. This large export market will help Turkey develop cutting-edge weapons systems for the use of all Muslim countries.




In 10 years time, apart from the Arabs pretty much most of the Muslim world will be working as a common bloc for Muslim interests. China will be out there alone and even Pakistan will be keeping it's distance from you as it's population is Muslim and anti-atheist.


Pakistanis are far more hardcore Muslims than BD'shis FYI.

Anglosphere are the least racist nations on earth. We allow immigrants to come to our countries, allow them to be citizens, allow them to vote, allow them to practice their religion, allow them to build religious places of worship, allow them to dress however they like.

Hats off to Indonesia this is the world Muslim country which is dare to question Barbaric China. Most others are busy in licking China's feet.

Hats off to Indian muslims

 

[GiantPanda]

Indonesians murdered tens of thousands of ethnic Chinese in the 1960s and raped and murdered hundreds of Chinese girls in the 1990s.

The Chinese language was banned.

Unlike the Uighurs who slaughtered 100s of Chinese in terrorist attacks, the ethnic Chinese in Indonesia were not engaged in terrorism.

So should China ask Indonesia for an explanation?