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[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Ugh...no.

Ugh. Yea. It's common sense.

 

[OCguy]

Everyone is fairly certain this was a mistake. The US has done the same thing unfortunately.

@Irfan Baloch

Can we please close these silly speculation threads until we have actual info on what happened.

It isn't speculation anymore.

 

[Philosopher]

It isn't speculation anymore.

Nothing has been confirmed yet. Stop making up claims please.

 

[Black_cats]

Iran missiles appear to have shot down Ukraine-bound Boeing airliner, US sources tell NBC News

PUBLISHED THU, JAN 9 202011:59 AM ESTUPDATED MOMENTS AGO
Dan Mangan

KEY POINTS

• Spy satellite imagery suggests that a Ukraine-bound Boeing airliner that crashed shortly after takeoff in Iran was shot down by Iranian missiles, NBC News reported Thursday.
• The report came as President Donald Trump said he does not believe that the crash airliner in Iran was the result of mechanical error.
• “It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood,” Trump said of the crash, which occurred on the same night that Iran launched missile attacks on bases in Iraq that house U.S. and coalition forces.

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Ukrainian jet was shot down by Iranian missile: Sources

Spy satellite imagery suggests that a Ukraine-bound Boeing passenger airliner that crashed shortly after takeoff in Iran was shot down by Iranian missiles, NBC News reported Thursday.

The report came as President Donald Trump said he does not believe that the crash of the plane carrying nearly 180 people near Tehran was the result of mechanical failure.

Iranian officials had originally suggested that the Boeing 737-800 fell from the skies because of a mechnical failure.

“It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood,” Trump said of the crash, which occurred soon after Iran launched missile attacks on bases in Iraq that house U.S. and coalition forces.

“Someone could have made a mistake.”

“I have a feeling that — it’s just some very terrible, something very terrible happened, very devastating,” he said.

Rescue workers recover bodies from the wreckage of a Boeing Co. 737-800 aircraft, operated by Ukraine International Airlines, which crashed shortly after takeoff near Shahedshahr, Iran, on Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2020.
Ali Mohammadi | Bloomberg | Getty Images

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/09/trump-says-he-has-doesnt-believe-the-boeing-plane-crash-in-iran-was-due-to-mechanical-error.html

 

[Safriz]

Looks lie an S-300 was fired at the plane... Missile parts found near the crash site.

 

[OCguy]

I don't think any country that purports to be as much of a bastion of freedom of speech and human rights violates as the US lies as much as the US does. A lot of Americans don't get that it's the unbearable hypocrisy behind US govt lectures on human rights and mass surveillance and media manipulation to other countries that gets to most of us.

It's a relative thing. Let's not derail the thread though. Why speculate so much when the Ukrainian team will be inspecting the black box very soon anyway?

Nobody is just going off of US IC word. This isn't WMD, there is visual and circumstantial evidence, with more to come.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

US lies through teeth to serve its purpose.
US also claimed ,Iran was behind hitting Saudi refinery..however many here proudly took the credit.

 

[Philosopher]

Looks lie an S-300 was fired at the plane... Missile parts found near the crash site.

First of all that is the Tor-m1 missile, secondly, if I am not mistaken that was proven to be false earlier.

 

[mangekyo]

Everyone is fairly certain this was a mistake. The US has done the same thing unfortunately.



It isn't speculation anymore.

"unnamed pentagon officials" is like Iran saying "unnamed Hezbollah officials" Doesn't mean anything

Iran-Ukraine joint meeting held to investigate clues for plane crash in Tehran

TEHRAN, Jan. 09 (MNA) – Iranian and Ukrainian experts meet in Tehran on Thursday to investigate the causes of the Ukrainian Airlines plane crash.

Canadian and Swedish authorities have been invited to cooperate in the investigation into Wednesday's crash, the Iranian Civil Aviation Organization said in a statement.

The first joint meeting between Iranian and Ukrainian experts, sent to Tehran to investigate the incident, has already taken place, according to the organization.

On Wednesday, a Boeing 737 belonging to Ukraine International Airlines has crashed due to technical problems after take-off from Iran's Imam Khomeini airport with at least 170 passengers and crew, mostly Iranians, on board.

The airplane took off from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airport and was heading to Ukrainian capital city Kyiv.

According to the spokesperson of Iran’s aviation organization, the exact numbers of people on board were 167 passengers and nine crew members, including 70 men, 81 women, and 15 children.

He said that on board were 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, which included two passengers and the nine crew. There were also 10 Swedish, four Afghan, three German and three British nationals, he said.

MNA/

 

[OCguy]

Nothing has been confirmed yet. Stop making up claims please.

Mistakes happen. Nobody is trying to invade Iran over a mistake.

 

[Philosopher]

Mistakes happen.

They do, except in this case nothing has been confirmed yet.

Nobody is trying to invade Iran over a mistake.

Nobody has the balls or capability for that anyway.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Arghhh another MH-17 just only 5-6 years later in same timeframe of geopolitical chessboard games sadly the victims families like in this plane crash like the MH17 ones will have to suffer through all the geopolitical nonsense between that US causes there and its only the US press reporting it so far just wait a few years they gonna let Iran off the hook but Iran will still be the bad guy

 

[Black_cats]

The Ukrainian flight that crashed in Iran was shot down by a missile, according to reported US satellite intelligence
Ryan Pickrell

40 minutes ago

Ukrainian Emergency workers carry a victim's body in a body bag as pro-Russian fighters stand guard at the crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 near the village of Hrabove, eastern Ukraine in July 2014.
Evgeniy Maloletka/AP

• US officials, according to multiple reports, believe that Ukrainian International Airlines Flight 752 was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile.
• Pentagon officials told Newsweek that the plane was probably shot down by accident, as Iran's surface-to-air missile systems were likely active at the time of the crash.
• The incident occurred shortly after Iran fired a barrage of ballistic missiles at US and coalition forces in Iraq in response to a US drone strike that killed top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.

Ukrainian International Airlines Flight 752 is suspected to have been hit by fire from a Russian-built Tor M-1 (SA-15) surface-to-air missile system operated by the Iranian military, according to multiple reports.

Pentagon officials told Newsweek that the incident is believed to have been an accident, as anti-aircraft systems were likely active at the time of the suspected shoot down.The Pentagon could not confirm the report for Insider.

The plane crashed outside of the Iranian capital of Tehran on Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board, shortly after Iranian forces launched a barrage of missiles at US and coalition forces in Iraq in response to a US drone strike that killed top Iranian general Qassem Soleimani last week.

CBS News reports that US officials are confident that Iran shot down Flight 752, explaining that US intelligence detected anti-aircraft radars turning on prior to the crash. Satellites detected two infrared blips, suspected SA-15 missile launches, that were followed by another blip, the aircraft explosion.

CNN confirmed CBS and Newsweek's reporting as two US officials told the Associated Press that it was "highly likely" that the aircraft was downed by an Iranian anti-aircraft missile.

President Donald Trump said Thursday that he does not believe that the passenger jet went down as a result of a mechanical error, according to CNBC.

"It was flying in a pretty rough neighborhood," the president said. "Someone could have made a mistake. I have a feeling that — it's just some very terrible, something very terrible happened, very devastating"

Oleksiy Danylov, the secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, wrote on Facebook Thursday that Ukrainian investigators are considering a number of possibilities, including that the plane may have been shot down.

Images showing apparent fragments of a Tor M-1 missile said to have been found outside of Tehran have been circulating on social media

Other possibilities Ukrainian investigators are looking at include an engine explosion due to a technical malfunction, a terrorist attack, or a collision with an unmanned aerial vehicle.

This is a developing story and will be updated as more information becomes available.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukrainian-flight-752-shot-down-by-anti-aircraft-missile-2020-1

 

[OCguy]

They do, except in this case nothing has been confirmed yet.



Nobody has the balls or capability for that anyway.

This is the difference between those who learn the ugly truth about their own government instead of reading single-source state-sponsored propaganda. I don't take it personal when someone credibly reports the US makes a mistake. Your responses are emotional, not clinical..

 

[Safriz]

To be honest the shrapnel holes in the fuselage could also be a result of an exploding turbine stage.
They spin at very high speeds and if few of the many blades dislodge they will go through the fuselage easily and on the way disintegrate, creating a shrapnel spray.