All Clear: India To Sign Deal For 36 Rafales This Month!!!!!!!!

[SUDIP]

The all-clear is here, and there's no way to tell it but straight. Livefist can confirm that India and France are all set to sign a government-to-government deal this month for the supply of 36 Dassault Rafale fighter jets to the Indian Air Force. A crucial final meeting on Monday, Jan 18 of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) will provide final approval, paving the way for contract signature. France's Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, a man plenty familiar with India as a result of the meandering Rafale process, arrives in Delhi when the DAC meets, spurring reports that an agreement has already been reached -- with formalities pending.

All 36 jets will be supplied in flyaway form from Dassault's facility near the Bordeaux–Mérignac Airport. The deal will be signed on January 25 in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi & French President François Hollande who will be in Delhi later this month as chief guest at India's Republic Day Parade.
Courtesy: Livefist
LIVEFIST: All Clear: India To Sign Deal For 36 Rafales This Month

And Shiv Aroor is a no nonsense, close to PMO , and an authentic defense Jurno unlike india tv and TOIlet....

 

[ganesh623]

Had many all clears already. Just go on with it and sign the damn thing.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Huh? I thought the 36 Rafales was a done deal a long time ago?

 

[dadeechi]

The all-clear is here, and there's no way to tell it but straight. Livefist can confirm that India and France are all set to sign a government-to-government deal this month for the supply of 36 Dassault Rafale fighter jets to the Indian Air Force. A crucial final meeting on Monday, Jan 18 of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) will provide final approval, paving the way for contract signature. France's Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, a man plenty familiar with India as a result of the meandering Rafale process, arrives in Delhi when the DAC meets, spurring reports that an agreement has already been reached -- with formalities pending.

All 36 jets will be supplied in flyaway form from Dassault's facility near the Bordeaux–Mérignac Airport. The deal will be signed on January 25 in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi & French President François Hollande who will be in Delhi later this month as chief guest at India's Republic Day Parade.
Courtesy: Livefist
LIVEFIST: All Clear: India To Sign Deal For 36 Rafales This Month

And Shiv Aroor is a no nonsense, close to PMO , and an authentic defense Jurno unlike india tv and TOIlet....

Deal for the initial 36 is no longer the focus of interest. When would the follow on contract for MII would be signed.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Shall we get the final agreement and then talk ?

 

[kaykay]

There are speculations that India want all 36 Rafales within 3 years. Is it possible?

 

[elitepilot09]

I thought MRCA was for 126 aircraft? All that chest beating for nothing??

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Source Based Info:

1. The deal is for 36+18
2. India has assured a minimum of 80+ flyaway in increments bought from Merignac plan
3. The 50% plan offset under DPP 2016 is the route for MII
4. The IN has requested MOD for IAC 1 modified type 2 more carriers and IAC2 type 2 carriers. IAC1 modified version will carry 2 squadrons of Rafale M. Coupled with land based training and needs is normally totalled 1.5 - 2 x the ACC birds so around 50 birds per IAC1 mod type is planned for purchase. This need implies 100 Rafale M straight forward and perhaps another 1-2 squads for shore based totalling 120-140 odd Rafale M for conventional carriers upto 2030.
5. MOD has not approved this plan as of now and has indicated a detailed meeting soon.
6. IAC 2 N propulsion plans may add either another 100-150 odd rafales at 3 squadrons per carrier with land based reserves all together totaling approx 8 squardrons. USA has offerred F35 for such numbers with customisations
7. IAC2 aircraft decision not yet taken and discussion for a suitable package underway negotiated with both Dassault and LM
8. IAF has defined SFC need 80+ Rafales and 6 squadrons for activities totaling close to 190

Awaiting more concrete information

@Abingdonboy @Vauban @SR-91 @anant_s
India may become a much larger user of Rafale as its evidently clear that 5th Gen program will come much closer to 2027-2030 timeline giving a opportunity of 12-15 years to upgrade every depletion of squadron strength.

There are speculations that India want all 36 Rafales within 3 years. Is it possible?

In anticipation for order , Dassault has started working for Indian order from June 2015. The original order was suppose to happen in August 2015 end. This is as per Ex Dassault people in forums

 

[dadeechi]

I thought MRCA was for 126 aircraft? All that chest beating for nothing??

Yeh toh trailer hai mia. Picture abhi baki hai

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Yaar ,plz don't creat a thread on Refale deal until first Refale land on Indian airbase . Bahut ho gya yar, ab or sehan nhi hota

 

[SR-91]

Source Based Info:

1. The deal is for 36+18
2. India has assured a minimum of 80+ flyaway in increments bought from Merignac plan
3. The 50% plan offset under DPP 2016 is the route for MII
4. The IN has requested MOD for IAC 1 modified type 2 more carriers and IAC2 type 2 carriers. IAC1 modified version will carry 2 squadrons of Rafale M. Coupled with land based training and needs is normally totalled 1.5 - 2 x the ACC birds so around 50 birds per IAC1 mod type is planned for purchase. This need implies 100 Rafale M straight forward and perhaps another 1-2 squads for shore based totalling 120-140 odd Rafale M for conventional carriers upto 2030.
5. MOD has not approved this plan as of now and has indicated a detailed meeting soon.
6. IAC 2 N propulsion plans may add either another 100-150 odd rafales at 3 squadrons per carrier with land based reserves all together totaling approx 8 squardrons. USA has offerred F35 for such numbers with customisations
7. IAC2 aircraft decision not yet taken and discussion for a suitable package underway negotiated with both Dassault and LM
8. IAF has defined SFC need 80+ Rafales and 6 squadrons for activities totaling close to 190

Awaiting more concrete information

@Abingdonboy @Vauban @SR-91 @anant_s
India may become a much larger user of Rafale as its evidently clear that 5th Gen program will come much closer to 2027-2030 timeline giving a opportunity of 12-15 years to upgrade every depletion of squadron strength.


In anticipation for order , Dassault has started working for Indian order from June 2015. The original order was suppose to happen in August 2015 end. This is as per Ex Dassault people in forums

120-140 Rafales for Indian Navy, that's a huge number. I thought they will buy Rafale M for Vishal and a squadron for land base.

190 for IAF + 120 for IN. This is one hell of a order.
How good is the intel? What are delivery times for airforce and the navy?

U made me very happy man today. Thx

 

[Grevion]

Source Based Info:

1. The deal is for 36+18
2. India has assured a minimum of 80+ flyaway in increments bought from Merignac plan
3. The 50% plan offset under DPP 2016 is the route for MII
4. The IN has requested MOD for IAC 1 modified type 2 more carriers and IAC2 type 2 carriers. IAC1 modified version will carry 2 squadrons of Rafale M. Coupled with land based training and needs is normally totalled 1.5 - 2 x the ACC birds so around 50 birds per IAC1 mod type is planned for purchase. This need implies 100 Rafale M straight forward and perhaps another 1-2 squads for shore based totalling 120-140 odd Rafale M for conventional carriers upto 2030.
5. MOD has not approved this plan as of now and has indicated a detailed meeting soon.
6. IAC 2 N propulsion plans may add either another 100-150 odd rafales at 3 squadrons per carrier with land based reserves all together totaling approx 8 squardrons. USA has offerred F35 for such numbers with customisations
7. IAC2 aircraft decision not yet taken and discussion for a suitable package underway negotiated with both Dassault and LM
8. IAF has defined SFC need 80+ Rafales and 6 squadrons for activities totaling close to 190

Awaiting more concrete information

@Abingdonboy @Vauban @SR-91 @anant_s
India may become a much larger user of Rafale as its evidently clear that 5th Gen program will come much closer to 2027-2030 timeline giving a opportunity of 12-15 years to upgrade every depletion of squadron strength.


In anticipation for order , Dassault has started working for Indian order from June 2015. The original order was suppose to happen in August 2015 end. This is as per Ex Dassault people in forums

That's a huge number and it will be a dream come true if MOD goes with the proposal. 310 odd rafales are only possible under MII and with TOT of RBE2 AA and Snecma M88.

 

[LittleFish]

So IAF will spend more on Rafael while cutting budgets on T50? TOT bound with the deal?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[Manas]

Don't go crazy . 36 at this stage and possibly +18 is the final count for Rafale in indian military . Since more than that will jeopardize our indigenous fighter program for next two decades .