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[maximuswarrior]

I don't care if Pakistani women marry foreigners. As long as laws aren't broken and they follow their respective religions belief on marriage, it's none of my concern.

Acting like PTM? Bro you have no idea of what is actually going on, first you said ISIS, now it's PTM, and those two are very different groups. You're making it up as you go along.

Well apart from many Pakistanis in Pakistan itself and the odd few nationalists abroad, most Pakistanis in UK very much know and acknowledge that China is doing very bad things to uighurs. Most Muslims I've met acknowledge it. Our leaders don't speak about it because the arab rulers need to secure their thrones and finances, Iran needs support against America, Imran Khan needs chinese projects and investment for Pakistan etc...

You should care just like the Chinese care. Chinese care about their women marrying other men. They don’t want their women to be exploited by foreigners.

PTM, ISIS etc. Who cares. They all serve the same purpose for countries like the US. They are there to sow hate and confusion so America can profit. You get my point.

Many Pakistanis in Pakistan don’t buy this anti China propaganda. Our own PM has on numerous occasions debunked this myth with Western journalists. Whatever Pakistanis in the UK think is their own problem. They cannot impose their “truth” onto others. These are the same naive and pathetic weaklings that support other causes above their own cause.

 

[Numerous]

I don't. I would fit in with your moderate Muslims. Religion is my private affair. I won't drink alcohol, I won't eat pork. I won't foist my views on you. But that is the question you need to posit to 99% of Pakistani in Pakistan and even abroad. And they will refuse to learn. Refuse progress. Live in middle ages Pakistan.

They will suck Chinese d*ck when it comes to money, grants, loans, fighter aircraft, help with muzzling India, help with building dams and roads but then after you have given them the loans, fighters, diplomatic support, built the roads for them.


Start pointing fingers at you and lecturing you ... enjoy the Himalaya high love !

They force many of them to drink alcohol and eat pork though.

I personally find you as some sort of enemy of Muslims (due to your past comments about mosques, the ummah etc) but the Chinese won't even let someone like you off the line.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Only the trouble making Uighurs are getting their deserved treatments in China or elsewhere in Muslim countries alike.

Are they Uighurs?

迪丽热巴

阿卜力克木·阿卜来提

麦迪娜·买买提

尼格买提·热合曼


Navy

An Officer

Dancing Uighurs

I totally agree. When Obama became President it proved racism in the US was a 100% myth propagated by the Russians and Chinese....plus look at all the black sports stars making millions...racism simply doesn't exist. How people can be so stupid and think otherwise is beyond comprehension.

 

[HannibalBarca]

You should care just like the Chinese care. They hate the Chinese for caring about their women marrying other men.

PTM, ISIS. Who cares. They all serve the same purpose for countries like the US. You get my point.

Many Pakistanis in Pakistan don’t buy this anti China propaganda. Our own PM has on numerous occasions debunked this myth with Western journalists. Whatever Pakistanis in the UK think is their own problem. Whether this is the majority or not is meaningless. These are the same naive and pathetic weaklings that support other causes above their own cause.

Yeah...Same with Palestine and Kashmir... it's only Western propaganda...
You right... or?

 

[Feng Leng]

I don't care if Pakistani women marry foreigners. As long as laws aren't broken and they follow their respective religions belief on marriage, it's none of my concern.

Acting like PTM? Bro you have no idea of what is actually going on, first you said ISIS, now it's PTM, and those two are very different groups. You're making it up as you go along.

Well apart from many Pakistanis in Pakistan itself and the odd few nationalists abroad, most Pakistanis in UK very much know and acknowledge that China is doing very bad things to uighurs. Most Muslims I've met acknowledge it. Our leaders don't speak about it because the arab rulers need to secure their thrones and finances, Iran needs support against America, Imran Khan needs chinese projects and investment for Pakistan etc...

Your Jinnah and your Imran Khan are both moderate Muslims. So come back to us and complain about our moderating our Chinese Muslims when you elect somebody who is more devout please.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I totally agree. When Obama became President it proved racism in the US was a 100% myth propagated by the Russians and Chinese....plus look at all the black sports stars making millions...racism simply doesn't exist. How people can be so stupid and think otherwise is beyond comprehension.

I fear he will take it seriously...
A footnote maybe... maybe.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

If the "real" Islam you follow requires you to rebel against secular authority like atheist CCP, then you are an extremist by our definition. We don't like extremists. Muslims in our country must be moderate.

You see herein lies the rub. You are either a British, Chinese, Pakistani etc. People like @Numerous are non of that. They are 'Muslim'. That is their identity. My identity is British-Pakistani. That exposes my priorities and impulses. I am informed by what is best for Pakistan and best for Britain. If that entails screwing a few Uigurs or Syrians. So be it. Don't like it but thats realpolitik. I am Muslim in my private space.

People like @Numerous [trust me most British despise his type and the charge is they live under the protection of Her Majesty but show loyalty elsewhere] are 'Muslim' and that tag superceded other identifiers like Pakistan or Britain. Thus these people relate to and have loyalty to, are driven by a global Muslim order. Their loyalty is NOT to the nation state. Such people whether they are in China, Pakistan, Britain,USA, France have their loyalty beyond the state and despise nationalists like me.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Yeah...Same with Palestine and Kashmir... it's only Western propaganda...
You right... or?

We believe in our truth. You believe in yours.

 

[HannibalBarca]

We believe in our truth. You believe in yours.

No... you believe in what touch you directly...
It's called being an Hypocrite and Selfish... nothing else, nothing more...

I believe in people being oppressed for what they are in Palestine Kashmir and China... But you Don't...

 

[Numerous]

You should care just like the Chinese care. They hate the Chinese for caring about their women marrying other men.

PTM, ISIS. Who cares. They all serve the same purpose for countries like the US. You get my point.

Many Pakistanis in Pakistan don’t buy this anti China propaganda. Our own PM has on numerous occasions debunked this myth with Western journalists. Whatever Pakistanis in the UK think is their own problem. Whether this is the majority or not is meaningless. These are the same naive and pathetic weaklings that support other causes above their own cause.

No there isn't really any reason for me to care. I'm not chinese, I don't follow their example of how to live life.

I get your point but just like the US uses such organisations to justify their wars against Muslims ("Oh we're attacking Al Qaeda, not normal muslims"), you are making similar excuses for China. You are turning their war against uighur Muslims into a war against ISIS or PTM minded people.

Sure that's the case for now but as news of the people who have uighur wives, all these trafficking nonsense etc grows. It's only going to change people's opinions once they learn the truth. Imran can feign ignorance for now but it won't work forever.

There's nothing pathetic or weak about caring for other Muslims.

 

[maximuswarrior]

No... you believe in what touch you directly...
It's called being an Hypocrite and Selfish... nothing else, nothing more...

I believe in people being oppressed for what they are in Palestine Kashmir and China... But you Don't...

You don’t. You believe in US conspiracy theories aimed against China.

 

[Feng Leng]

No... you believe in what touch you directly...
It's called being an Hypocrite and Selfish... nothing else, nothing more...

I believe in people being oppressed for what they are in Palestine Kashmir and China... But you Don't...

So tell me if a moderate Muslim like Jinnah is acceptable to you? We want all of our Muslims to be like Jinnah.

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

阿卜力克木·阿卜来提 （Actor）

Sportsmen

阿布都沙拉木

可兰白可

西热力江

（Actresses）
维妮娜

帕尔维娜

迪丽娜尔

那笛

阿依夏姆·买合买提

 

[HannibalBarca]

You don’t. You believe in US conspiracy theories aimed against China.

Seems being educated in ( I assume) in Europe and even more a country like Netherlands...didn't change much for you guys...
Am I surprised...Not really tbh... When you see today Europe... You know what it's falling...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

This is Pakistani nationalism colliding with Islamic radicalism in UK. Between those who espouse a wider global Muslim order and those who push for Pakistani nationalism. You can see this contradiction everywhere. This punk @Numerous belongs to the radical Islamists that actually are resented by most Britons as well for the same reason in other nation states. They espouse a global order and NOT the nation state.

@Feng Leng