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[maximuswarrior]

Sadly, it's not propaganda. The Chinese have visceral hatred for Muslims. No avoiding this fact. They are involved in slow motion genocide in Turkistan. This is fact. As I said Pakistani's have to make a informed decision knowing the two choices.


Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and stand by our Muslim brothers in Uighur Turkistan,
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your miserable CPEC
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your military platforms and will buy American
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we want to end the JF-17 Tunder joint fighter project
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your loans and grants
And by ending it all face the reality by castrating Pakistan.

Or does Pakistan -

face the reality and sorrows of life. Bite our lips and keeping getting help from Chinese while they toast/kill our Uighur Muslim brothers. That is the question?

Hatred is a very big word. Yes, there are differences. In fact major differences, but the way the West is presenting the “ethnic cleansing” is obviously false and malicious. There is absolutely no truth to these accusations.

 

[HannibalBarca]

No, that's not the question. Muslims in China have a much higher standard of living than Pakistan. The question you should ask is: "Is there something we can learn from the moderate Muslims of China?"

Moderate Muslims... lol...
Whatis it? someone who drink; Eat Pork; Don't Pray, Don't care about the next door guy; Don't fast...

 

[OIO]

He literally is using words like moderate lol. The Americans always go on about moderate Islam too.

The chinese communists and americans are two side of the same coin when it comes to Muslim. They both hate a Muslim who actually follows Islam.

No, we are different with West. I told you before:
We will not destroy your country like West right wing, we will not spoil you like West left wing.

There are three kinds of Muslim in the world to me:
Muslim in China, they must obey Chinese law
Muslim in Muslim countries, they are none of my business if they dont bash China
Muslim in West countries, if they conflict with white, I'm a cheerleader, because West always critisize China

 

[HannibalBarca]

Hatred is very big word. Yes, there are differences. In fact major differences, but the way the West is presenting the “ethnic cleansing” is obviously false and malicious.

Or maybe YOU don't know... or don't wish to see the truth...

 

[Feng Leng]

The chinese communists and americans are two side of the same coin when it comes to Muslim. They both hate a Muslim who actually follows Islam.

If the "real" Islam you follow requires you to rebel against secular authority like atheist CCP, then you are an extremist by our definition. We don't like extremists. Muslims in our country must be moderate.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Or maybe YOU don't know... or don't wish you see the truth...

I know. Maybe it is you who is willing to buy American BS propaganda.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Sadly, it's not propaganda. The Chinese have visceral hatred for Muslims. No avoiding this fact. They are involved in slow motion genocide in Turkistan. This is fact. As I said Pakistani's have to make a informed decision knowing the two choices.


Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and stand by our Muslim brothers in Uighur Turkistan,
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your miserable CPEC
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your military platforms and will buy American
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we want to end the JF-17 Tunder joint fighter project
Do we say fcuk off to the Chinese and say we don't want your loans and grants
And by ending it all face the reality by castrating Pakistan.

Or does Pakistan -

face the reality and sorrows of life. Bite our lips and keeping getting help from Chinese while they toast/kill our Uighur Muslim brothers. That is the question?

Unfortunately governments around the world (not just China) are hedging their bets that they can corrupt a man's heart with promises of money to a point where they will rationalize putting their religion "second" in their own minds. The "golden cow" scenario. It does work.

 

[HannibalBarca]

I know. Maybe it is you who is willing to buy BS propaganda.

Maybe... But at least I try to check for both sides...instead of jumping on every Conspiracy theories available... and keeping away from this kindergarten blind "loyalty"...
You know...

 

[Numerous]

First of all, Pakistani men should mind their own business and marry women on their own side. Just like we wouldn’t want foreigners coming in and marrying our women.

Secondly, there are quite a few sold outs in that community that are acting like PTM. China won’t tolerate this behavior and rightfully so. Additionally, China is trying to integrate the province with the rest of the country. Americans are trying to create ethnic and religious tensions like they fabricate all over the world.

American propaganda won’t fool the majority. There is a reason why most Islamic nations are giving a big middle finger to Uncle Sam and their Chinese propaganda.

I don't care if Pakistani women marry foreigners. As long as laws aren't broken and they follow their respective religions belief on marriage, it's none of my concern.

Acting like PTM? Bro you have no idea of what is actually going on, first you said ISIS, now it's PTM, and those two are very different groups. You're making it up as you go along.

Well apart from many Pakistanis in Pakistan itself and the odd few nationalists abroad, most Pakistanis in UK very much know and acknowledge that China is doing very bad things to uighurs. Most Muslims I've met acknowledge it. Our leaders don't speak about it because the arab rulers need to secure their thrones and finances, Iran needs support against America, Imran Khan needs chinese projects and investment for Pakistan etc...

 

[Feng Leng]

Moderate Muslims... lol...
Whatis it? someone who drink; Eat Pork; Don't Pray, Don't care about the next door guy; Don't fast...

Go talk to some of our moderate Muslims please. I don't know the details. If I had to guess, you Jinnah would be considered moderate.

By the way, your Imran Khan never drank or had sex outside of marriage when he was an athlete?

We want all of our Muslims to be Imran Khans. Happy?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

No, that's not the question. Muslims in China have a much higher standard of living than Pakistan. The question you should ask is: "Is there something we can learn from the moderate Muslims of China?"

I don't. I would fit in with your moderate Muslims. Religion is my private affair. I won't drink alcohol, I won't eat pork. I won't foist my views on you. But that is the question you need to posit to 99% of Pakistani in Pakistan and even abroad. And they will refuse to learn. Refuse progress. Live in middle ages Pakistan.

They will suck Chinese d*ck when it comes to money, grants, loans, fighter aircraft, help with muzzling India, help with building dams and roads but then after you have given them the loans, fighters, diplomatic support, built the roads for them.


Start pointing fingers at you and lecturing you ... enjoy the Himalaya high love !

 

[HannibalBarca]

Go talk to some of our moderate Muslims please. I don't know the details. If I had to guess, you Jinnah would be considered moderate.

By the way, your Imrah Khan never drank or had sex outside of marriage when he was an athlete?

Well... Never knew you guys got such level of "Knowledge"... Even more on subject you "scream" knowing...

 

[Three_Kingdoms]

Then let him, there are 1.2 billion Chinese, they can defend themselves.

Well China is certainly doing some very dodgy things to uighurs - do you deny it?

Sure the US is evil but so are communists who are ruling China. The world isn't black and right, it isn't split into Americans and good people.

The vast majority of those people China is oppressing have nothing to do with ISIS. In fact you even saying something like that is literally the same as when the US attacks Muslims and says they are actually fighting XYZ terrorist group.

Locking up a million people and trying to brain wash them, forcing some of our sisters to marry scummy communists in order to save their family, killing some of them for their organs, drugging them, torture, brainwashing, forcing them to drink alcohol and eat pork. These aren't little things, if the americans did this, you would be raising your fist in anger - so why defend these chinese? Doesn't that make you the hypocrite? Just like US.

No,propaganda is lies. This isn't lies. This is the truth.

I'm not trying to insult or be aggressive towards you but some Pakistanis really need ask themselves some really tough moral questions as they go about sticking up for China for it's oppression against uighurs.

Only the trouble making Uighurs are getting their deserved treatments in China or elsewhere in Muslim countries alike.

Are they Uighurs?

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[HannibalBarca]

I don't. I would fit in with your moderate Muslims. Religion is my private affair. I won't drink alcohol, I won't eat pork. I won't foist my views on you. But that is the question you need to posit to 99% of Pakistani in Pakistan and even abroad. And they will refuse to learn. Refuse progress. Live in middle ages Pakistan.

They will suck Chinese d*ck when it comes to money, grants, loans, fighter aircraft, help with muzzling India, help with building dams and roads but then after you have given them the loans, fighters, diplomatic support, built the roads for them.


Start pointing fingers at you and lecturing you ... enjoy the Himalaya high love !

So mutual respect doesn't work? One side shall own the other?

 

[OIO]

I don't. I would fit in with your moderate Muslims. Religion is my private affair. I won't drink alcohol, I won't eat pork. I won't foist my views on you. But that is the question you need to posit to 99% of Pakistani in Pakistan and even abroad. And they will refuse to learn. Refuse progress. Live in middle ages Pakistan.

They will suck Chinese d*ck when it comes to money, grants, loans, fighter aircraft, help with muzzling India, help with building dams and roads but then after you have given them the loans, fighters, diplomatic support, built the roads for them.


Start pointing fingers at you and lecturing you ... enjoy the Himalaya high love !

Muslim in China has all rights under the Chinese law.