Al Jazeera: Bangladesh war crimes are "unfair"

[idune]

Sheikh Hasina, Shajeda Choudhury with Jammat leader Nizami doing politics together against BNP. Same Jammat Leader now being accues of war crime when he is in opposition.

 

[Dazzler]

SO when Awami League will bring those people to justice who murdered raped and looted Non-bengalis and Biharies?

some among them were my distant relative too. Those who made it back told a totally different story of what was being happened and who the killers, rapers were but i will keep it for later.

 

[third eye]

Will this ' war crimes' saga ever end ?

The nation has to move on.

 

[Al-zakir]

A kangaroo court, will not get justice for anyone, will lead to more problems down the road, all the major human rights organizations are condemning this trial, but it is for Bangladeshis to decide if it is right or wrong.

It seem some nation doesn't like to live in peace. Libya was prosperous under Gaddafi but they screwed themselves. You will see how those looser feel sorry in coming days. Never the less, Bd is no different. We were growing in very sectors, our nation was one of the peaceful nation in Asia yet some bigots literally inviting blood and death.

I pray to Allah that they come out safe from prison because something happen to them under custody or if Awami bigot hung them, then Allah have mercy on us.

 

[monitor]

All arrested are known war criminals. I did not see any harrassment. 5/6 guys are under trial right?

Before it proof that they were involve it cannot said who are war criminal . If the alleation were true then how could they do politics for 35 years ?

 

[monitor]

From a blog
গত শুক্রবার সাইদী সাহেবের মায়ের নামাজের জানাজায় উপস্থিত হলাম।আমার সাথে উপস্থিত হয়েছিল আমার এক চাচাতো ভাই ও।আমরা দুজনের কেউই জামাত শিবির এর রাজনীতির সাথে জরিত নই। আল্লামা সাইদীর ভক্ত হিসেবে তাকে এক নজর দেখতে আমরা জানাজায় উপস্থিত হয়েছিলাম। বেলা তখন তিনটা। সবাই সাইদী সাহেবে অপেক্ষায় অপেক্ষমান। সাইদী সাহেব আসতে আসতে মতিঝিল বালক উচ্চ বিদ্যালয়ের মাঠ কানায় কানয় পরিপূর্ন হয়ে যায়। হাজারো জনতার ঢর দেখে আমি অবাক হয়ে যাই। মায়ের জানাজায় এতো মানুষ! মানুষ কতইনা ভালোবাসে তাকে। অমি নিজেও মনে করি আমার প্রানের বিনিময়ে সাইদী সাহেব যদি একদিন ও বেশী জিবীত থাকে আমার চেয়ে তাকে দিয়ে কল্যানের কাজ বেশী হবে।তাই অমিও চাই আমার প্রানের বিনিময়ে হলেও সাইদী সাহেব বেচে থাকুক। আমার লেখাটা পড়ে অনেকে হাসবে।আমি মনে করি বোকারা এ কাজ করবে।বরেণ্য এ আলেমে দ্ভীনকে নিয়ে যারা মিথ্যাচার করছে আল্লাহ পৃথিবীতে এদের কঠিন শাস্তি না দিয়ে মৃতু্য দিবেননা। সাইদী সাহেবের পিছনে জীবনে এই প্রথম নামাজ আদায় করলাম।এর আগে তার পিছনে নামাজ পরেছি এমনটা মনে পরেনা। তার ওয়াজ রেকর্ডে আমি অনেক শুনেছি। শুনে শুনে ভক্ত আমি। বেশী ভক্ত মায়ের ওয়াজের কারনে। তার ওয়াজ আমাকে মায়ের প্রতি দ্বিগুন ভালোবাসা বাড়িয়ে দিয়েছে। মাঠে নামাজ পরলাম। মোনাজাত ধরলাম সংক্ষিপ্ত মোনাজাতেই মাঠে কান্ণার রোল পরে যায়। আমি নিজেও অনেক কেদেছি। এতো কিভাবে কাদলাম আমিও জানিনা। আমার জীবনে এতো সংক্ষিপ্ত মোনাজাতে এভাবে কখোনো কাদতে পারিনি। জানাজা শেষে পুলিশ যখন সাইদী সাহেবকে নিয়ে যাবে তখন জনতা তাকে ঘিরে ধরে এবং মিছিল শুরু করে। আমি নিজেকে আর সংযত রাখতে পারলামনা। সবার সাথে মিছিল শুরু করলাম সাইদীর কিছু হলে জ্বলবে আগুন ঘরে ঘরে। চিৎকারে আমার গলা বসে যায়। এখোনো ভালোভাবে কথা বলতে পারছিনা। তাতে আমার এক বিন্দু ও কষ্ট নেই আমি এক আলেমে দ্বীনের পক্ষে মিছিল করেছি এমন সৌভাগ্য কয়জনের কপালেই বা আছে।

 

[LaBong]

Just go and ask any of the Indian cow smugglers what is favorite to the Bangladeshis....?? They will reply you in one word beef or the flesh of gayo mata. That is why they smuggle 1.5 million cow a year at least in Bangladesh. No body needs to ask it what is favorite to the Bnagladeshis in this regard. Even more then mutton.

Thanks for disposing the gayo matas off our street, eat happily bangladeshis, but dont forget to pay the money, and dont get shot by bsf while at it!

 

[LaBong]

@topic: rajakars won't be executed, there are too many supporters of them in bangladesh.

 

[Zabaniyah]

@topic: rajakars won't be executed, there are too many supporters of them in bangladesh.

How can you predict all that? Did God tell you? Zodiacs? Magical crystal ball?

 

[harpoon]

How can you predict all that? Did God tell you? Zodiacs? Magical crystal ball?

Refer Al Zakir's post.

 

[LaBong]

How can you predict all that? Did God tell you? Zodiacs? Magical crystal ball?

Well it took you 30 years to file case against the Rajakars, then the case will go on and on and BNP will come to power to undone everything AL!

Look at this particular thread, only integra openly condemned the Rajakars, rest are Rajakar sympathizer or rajakar themselves!

It's not rocket science, is it?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Well it took you 30 years to file case against the Rajakars, then the case will go on and on and BNP will come to power to undone everything AL!

Look at this particular thread, only integra openly condemned the Rajakars, rest are Rajakar sympathizer or rajakar themselves!

It's not rocket science, is it?

Well, if you are going to accuse someone of something, you have to have the evidence. Where is your evidence that the man is indeed guilty?

And if you were paying any attention, your Awami League are working hard to establish a one-party state, by all means necessary. One form of extremism does not vindicate another.

And integra's post was correct about the 'political gains' part. Perhaps he is fed up with the whole scenario.

Now the question is, is this a correct course of action? Does this clear any past confusions? Is your Awami League the white knights to the rescue? Is this the kind of attitude that they should have?
Bangladesh to oppose Pakistan's GSP plea to the EU

Is justice really being served? Is that the way of serving justice? Awami League style? Through a kangaroo court?

You only reveal bias in your posts yourself. And what? Accuse everyone not hateful of Pakistan of being Razakars! That's really funny buddy.

 

[LaBong]

^What Bangladesh opposing Pakistan getting GSP in EU has to do with the subject in concern? Your leaders only trying to save your industries arse, nothing else. I must say you people are small-hearted(sic) as opposed to evil Bhartis who didn't oppose Pakistan considering the devastating flood they had to bear.

You just reiterated my statement, your court is kangroo court, your ruling party wants to create one party rule, your opposition party has been accused of killing and raping your own people! Your whole country is a mess, justice can't be severed under such jungle-raj!

As far as evidences are concerned, go gather them, I have whatsoever no concern if Rajakar become PM of Bangladesh, it's you to decide.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^What Bangladesh opposing Pakistan getting GSP in EU has to do with the subject in concern? Your leaders only trying to save your industries arse, nothing else. I must say you people are small-hearted(sic) as opposed to evil Bhartis who didn't oppose Pakistan considering the devastating flood they had to bear.

And since when was Pakistan's a threat to Bangladesh's industry? The point is displaying the sheer level of extremism with the AL. You can't solve anything through that attitude.

We already import many Pakistani products. Hell, there is even a branch for the National Bank of Pakistan in Gulshan.

You just reiterated my statement, your court is kangroo court, your ruling party wants to create one party rule, your opposition party has been accused of killing and raping your own people! Your whole country is a mess, justice can't be severed under such jungle-raj!

Really? So that makes Zia Rahman a Razakar? Some weird and interesting world your AL is trying to create.

The real criminals were Yaha Khan and Tikia Khan. It was due to the complexities of the Cold War and American support that disabled Bangladesh to bring them to trail. That along with Bangladesh's limited resources and problems.

Anyways, God has always been on our side. Bangladesh has managed to do well in spite of all the problems it faces.

As far as evidences are concerned, go gather them, I have whatsoever no concern if Rajakar become PM of Bangladesh, it's you to decide.

You are a funny guy. I specifically asked you to provide evidence to back up your claims. Nothing more or less. And frankly, there simply doesn't seem to be any. And if you weren't concerned about Razakars, you wouldn't be commenting on this matter in the first place.

 

[Baby Leone]

So when justice for these crime against humanity will come?

Memories of 1984 Sikh Genocide and Denial of Justice continue to traumatize and infuriate



Vancouver (November 7, 2010): For Gian Singh, President of the Dashmesh Darbar Gurdwara in Surrey, memories of 1984 remain as clear as ever and resurfaced just last week when he shared his experience with me.He recounted: “I was in Delhi in the morning when we heard that [then prime minister of India] Indira Gandhi was murdered by two Sikh bodyguards. … We were inside the gurdwara in Delhi. Our neighbours said ‘stay inside, lock yourselves up and don’t go outside, it does not look safe.’ Then we saw so many people coming and burning places down. I was there, we tried to put a lock on the gate, and they tried to break it.

“They threw kerosene gas on me and started to punch my body. … They wanted me to go outside the gate and then suddenly someone started a big fire outside. … If we had gone outside we would have died.”

The issue that was so traumatizing for Gian Singh is how Sikhs were singled out and were not even safe in their own country.

Sikhs Remembering Genocide Lighting CandlesFor Shalinder Gill of Vancouver (see first photo), as he lit a candle at the vigil last Saturday at Dashmesh Darbar Gurdwara, 1984 evoked childhood memories of black smoke, noise, his mother giving out blankets and the tears of a woman in a gurdwara as she scrambled to save pieces of the Guru Granth Sahib.

Then there are the memories of a Sikh youth in Punjab, son of a well known martyr of 1984 (I have chosen to keep this name anonymous), thinking about his father’s sacrifices in connection to 1984. He told me this week from Punjab: “People are speaking even more this year about 1984 and the songs dedicated to 1984 are very popular and keeping the memory alive, in particular the song: “Asi Fan Han Yaaro Bhindran Wale Babe De.”

When I asked him how some of the Sikh youth are feeling in his village about 1984, he said: “Here the Sikh youth have all the anger inside, some have it buried deep inside and some have it alive.”

Meanwhile in Punjab, President of the Sikh Student Federation, Parmjeet Singh Gazi, told me on Wednesday morning: “People of Punjab have responded positively to the shutdown, approving the cause behind it. Sikhs feel betrayed by the state, as it has failed to deliver justice to the victims of Sikh Genocide of 1984.”

Sikhs Remembering Genocide Lighting Candles (2)Indeed, the collage of memories continue into the present day and commemoration of 1984 matters for Sikhs and non-Sikhs who not only oppose state violence with impunity but are continuing to resist and expose what some interpret to be deflection tactics employed by the Indian Government in India to eclipse the history of 1984. Most disturbingly is when political and / or community leaders attempt to down play, silence or politicize the 1984 atrocities which has the intended or unintended effect of distorting the facts of 1984. What is wrong with academics or human rights activists exposing this Sikh chapter of history to educate the next generation and to prevent further atrocities from reoccurring?

In closing, when others speak out and educate, it empowers and unites people. It gives meaning and so the flames of 1984 and the bodies burned to ashes do come alive again in memory and continue to unfold in the present only to influence the future in a new way.

Memories of 1984 Sikh Genocide and Denial of Justice continue to traumatize and infuriate*|*SikhSiyasat.net – Sikh News and Multimedia.

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Hindutva terror: Justice still eludes riot victims
Last updated on: October 18, 2011 17:51 IST
The 1984 anti-Sikh riots were by far the worst: 3,000 killed with zero Hindu deaths

In the third and final part of the interview with rediff.com's Vicky Nanjappa, Subhash Gatade, author of Godse's Children -- Hindutva Terror In India, says that we should be wary of the majoritarian mindset which dominates what is known as civil society of our country.

Part I: 'Hindutva terror is not a recent phenomenon'

Part II: 'Hindutva terror has had a long gestation period'



If you have noticed all these incidents, the first information that always trickles in blames either the Students Islamic Movement of India or the Indian Mujahideen. Only a few years later does the other angle to it come out. Why do you think this is the case?

I have discussed many related aspects to your present query in your question 'Why has it taken so long for the police to crack down on this phenomenon called Hindu terror?' and also regarding 'role of security agencies as well'.

I would like to add only two points. It is high time that one seriously looks into the composition of security and investigating agencies, and ensure that it is made more diverse, more representative of our multi-religious, multiethnic, multilingual country, to avoid any unnecessary spins to investigations.

We should also be wary of the majoritarian mindset which dominates what is known as civil society of our country. Can we imagine any country in the world which calls itself the biggest democracy and where genocides/carnages are easily forgotten and the chattering classes are ready to turn a new leaf?

Look at Nellie massacre (Assam, 1983), Anti-Sikh riots (Delhi, 1984), Hashimpura (Merrut, UP, 1986) or killings of innocents in the aftermath of Babri Mosque demolition (1992-93) or the Gujarat carnage (2002).

You will find to your dismay that 'peace' has been definitely restored but justice still eludes the victims.

Hindutva terror: Justice still eludes riots victims - Rediff.com News

Now indians will justify their criminal activities...

and Topic: soo sad tht ppls are spreading hatrate when world needs peace.....indians just like 71 are using Bangalis to spread hate....sooo sad ..