Air War Is Coming:---

[TsAr]

Indian forums are pathetic. The whole reason why I cling on to the hope of peace, medium-term, with the people and nation of Pakistan is the chivalry and courteous behaviour of a significant segment of Pakistani members. These are rare traits in this world of today, and it is worth our every effort to make the nation to which these people belong a friend of our own.

If I express my opinion about PDF Mods, I will be tried and shot at dawn at the court of 'bhakt' opinion. Suffice it to say that they are a shield and a bulwark.

I surely do enjoy reading your posts here, even though I don't agree with all of them. Keep the young man in you alive...

 

[Joe Shearer]

lol

One fundamental assumption is that every British Pakistani will fight to the last Pakistani Pakistani.

Lots of assumptions in your post. I think assumptions are part of Indian's stupid thinking. For years you have been boosting, trying to prove it to the world that you are a super power and should be recognised as one.

Who are we to go against world opinion?

One incident, one response, and your narrative in the world has bitten the dust. So you think, one lesson of busted ego is not enough for you!!

Yes, you have won a famous victory. Now you can go and jeer at your corner Patel shop with perfect justification. LOL.

What would have happened if had fired the missile on your COAS, turning him to ashes!!
You would have responded by destroying Pakistan!!!

NO!

FEARFUL!!

Let's see what you could really do!! Fire few missiles and attack few targets. What next!!! Didn't the exact message sent to India when the intel on preparation of Missile strike by India and Israel reached Pakistanis!!

No.

A total figment of an overheated Pakistani establishment would hardly excite anybody.

Why you didn't target Pakistani sites as you were planning!!

We were told not to target Bradford until the Brexit processes were completed.

To summarise it.
1- After Pakistan's response in the broad day light, Indians have gone quiet. No retaliation, no air strikes. Why!!
Did Indian lose all its air force!!

Nothing has stopped.

The Indian armed forces have already stated that they will react when they find it most convenient, and that operations are continuing.

Which part of that did you not understand?

An Urdu translation can be provided.

2- Why Modi said that if India had Rafale the result would have been different!! He discarded whole of Indian air force and accepted India cannot respond to Pakistan day light attack.

You say this in full awareness of the fact that he is under severe personal attack for favouring his cronies for benefits in the offset programme. Your awareness of Indian context is staggeringly thorough.

3- After Pakistan threatened to respond with a ratio of 1/3 and attack 12 of Indian major population centers. Indian's missile threat for now is busted too.

Of course, there is no possibility of an Indian counter-attack. And you are aware of information that nobody else is.

This analysis is now supported by Indians who have a thing called brain.

What a relief! That lets all of us off the hook (I presume you are using the British Pakistani definition of brain).

I can only laugh at your stupid remarks on killing of Corps commanders.

Hmm.

You do seem to spend most of your time laughing. When do you squeeze in school?

Same thing would happen to Pakistan army, the lower generals would come up, exactly like what would happen in India if all their corps commanders are killed.

Remind me - how many Pakistani Lt Generals, and how many Indian? You do get the point, or does it have to be done the painful way?

For time being you should ponder, if didn't show leniency and actually killed your COAS and other generals.

Ooer!

That sounded fierce. I wonder what it means.

Sweet dreams.

oh dear. I will now spend sleepless nights thanks to your nightmare visions.

Yes @Vibrio has a good estimate of me; thankfully he chooses to reply to my calls.


2nd id of @AgNoStiC MuSliM ? Time to cool down things here .

I wish I had been. My esteem for that gentleman has been climbing by leaps and bounds with his every post.

Please stop using your intellect against a defenseless person. I thought you were better than to take advantage of such an evident disparity.

Sorry. I was unconscionably self-indulgent.

Our forces and Govt don't wants to more humiliate India to the point they would have to go for war.


His name I Abdul and working for ISI, His family suffer a lot during Gujrat riots so he wants to kill Modi. @Joe Shearer I blow your cover.

Khuda Hafiz, Abdul

Aap to mera jeena haram kar diye. Bewafadari bewafai isi ko kehte hain.

(No wonder desis don't get ahead; too busy pulling each other down. There is no appreciation of creative word construction at all. The number of laughing out loud messages received - sheesh! I'm really hurt by this philistine attitude. What would Ghalib have written with such a hostile audience?)

 

[Mentee]

Bewafadari

@jamahir word ^^^

 

[crankthatskunk]

lol

One fundamental assumption is that every British Pakistani will fight to the last Pakistani Pakistani.

You assuming again. First deal with Pakistani Pakistanis.

Who are we to go against world opinion?

You have memory loss or what!! You had been for decades. Otherwise how did you become a superpower!! In your dreams.

Yes, you have won a famous victory. Now you can go and jeer at your corner Patel shop with perfect justification. LOL.

Nope that was the first "Samosa" corner from the starter menu. It is a shame the Indians had every hole in their body rapture before the real firework started. Denying us an spectacular display.

NO!

FEARFUL!!

Exactly, that's how it looks to the whole world. Not been reading the world press!!

We were told not to target Bradford until the Brexit processes were completed.

This is rich coming from those who couldn't target a hill in a wooded area. Like always you made another assumption. What is with assumptions and Indians!!



Nothing has stopped.

The Indian armed forces have already stated that they will react when they find it most convenient, and that operations are continuing.

Yeah , we know. The second plan already unhinged after a warning of 1/3 is given by Pakistan.
We wait for further results of "convenient operation pause". Hurry up it had been days. Pakistan responded in broad day light and strike they did with spectacular fashion. Shame they didn't kill your COAS. I am all for them killing him and others, bombing the shit out of Brigade and battalion headquarters and sinking the two subs which were spotted near Pakistani waters. That would have sent the message right and proper to the assumption junkies.

Which part of that did you not understand?

An Urdu translation can be provided.

You see, it is difficult to understand Indians when they speak, including their funny "Hindi". The worst people on earth when it comes to Pronouncing words in any language.

You say this in full awareness of the fact that he is under severe personal attack for favouring his cronies for benefits in the offset programme. Your awareness of Indian context is staggeringly thorough.

You are right here. I' have never pause for a second when I spot an Indian or their propaganda. Do you think I have time to waste for the most ridiculously racists race on the planet earth!!

Of course, there is no possibility of an Indian counter-attack. And you are aware of information that nobody else is.

No. If you read my recent post, I am 100% sure Indians would strike again. I am just warning them for the results of their attack(s).

What a relief! That lets all of us off the hook (I presume you are using the British Pakistani definition of brain).

No, I have used the "Bombay" wala definition of the Brain.

Hmm.

You do seem to spend most of your time laughing. When do you squeeze in school?

Another stupid assumption by another egocentric Indian. Laughing at idiots is better than crying like Modi.

Remind me - how many Pakistani Lt Generals, and how many Indian? You do get the point, or does it have to be done the painful way?

What is in the count!! The proportionality remains the same. Doesn't matter.
Smart Alec, I can bust your nuts without using the nutcracker anytime of the day.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I surely do enjoy reading your posts here, even though I don't agree with all of them. Keep the young man in you alive...

Let me explain.

I reply to kiddie-posters because most of the gassy Indian khaki chaddis have disappeared. They tend to disappear when the going gets tough, they are all over the place, being offensive and being hateful guests when things are going smoothly. So in order to prevent the Indian presence going down by default, I answer the kiddies.

I reply to the reptiles because they spread their venom far and wide, and need to be stopped. If nobody else, some old fool has to do it.

I respectfully read, and sometimes respond, to the dozen or so very highly respected members who are people whose words I value. Many of them are among the Mods, but many more private individual; one of them is Don Quixote, re-born. It is a matter of care for me to be very well sorted when I respond to their posts, if I do.

 

[Ali Tariq]

Bewafadari

Sir, ye lafz kahan se sun bethe aap?

 

[thinkingcap81]

I reply to kiddie-posters because most of the gassy Indian khaki chaddis have disappeared. They tend to disappear when the going gets tough, they are all over the place, being offensive and being hateful guests when things are going smoothly. So in order to prevent the Indian presence going down by default, I answer the kiddies.

I reply to the reptiles because they spread their venom far and wide, and need to be stopped. If nobody else, some old fool has to do it.

Since when did you consider yourself to be a fool? I can imagine you saying to yourself - 'let me pretend to myself to be a fool while replying to the fools' - while chuckling away in front of the screen. Oh man! why don't the fools get it?

 

[Joe Shearer]

You assuming again. First deal with Pakistani Pakistanis.

Don't need to. The worst enemy of Pakistan is Pakistanis.

You have memory loss or what!! You had been for decades. Otherwise how did you become a superpower!! In your dreams.

On every single point, starting with the impression about British Pakistanis among other British citizens compared to their impressions about British Indians, for instance, or the general impression throughout the world, we need to say nothing. You do all the talking against yourselves. Vicious Indians sit back, consume their popcorn and watch the tamasha; concerned Indians like me wring their hands helplessly.

We became a power, not a superpower, through our steady economic rise. Not through gorilla-like chest-beating but through solid achievement.

Nope that was the first "Samosa" corner from the starter menu. It is a shame the Indians had every hole in their body rapture before the real firework started. Denying us an spectacular display.

I acknowledge the rationality and logic of your post. Brilliant, and typical.

Exactly, that's how it looks to the whole world. Not been reading the world press!!

No time considering the time I spend gaping at the exploits of Pakistanis rather than the reports on the world press.

This is rich coming from those who couldn't target a hill in a wooded area. Like always you made another assumption. What is with assumptions and Indians!!

What a shame that you win every battle and yet lose every war.

Nothing has stopped.

Don't know about 'nothing', what we are helpless witnesses to is that nothing stops you. Perhaps we should try muzzles or insulate ourselves with the equivalent of muffler earphones.

Yeah , we know. The second plan already unhinged after a warning of 1/3 is given by Pakistan.

Every Pakistani fan-boy is obviously sitting in on decisions at strategic levels. How well you know your administration's plans!

We wait for further results of "convenient operation pause". Hurry up it had been days.

It will be when it will be, not when you are jumping up and down on the sidelines.

Pakistan responded in broad day light and strike they did with spectacular fashion.

According to Pakistan's own press releases, no damage, no casualties (deliberately so), and a tale of two shootings. Spectacular, indeed.

Shame they didn't kill your COAS. I am all for them killing him and others, bombing the shit out of Brigade and battalion headquarters and sinking the two subs which were spotted near Pakistani waters. That would have sent the message right and proper to the assumption junkies.

You really shouldn't neglect your medication.

You see, it is difficult to understand Indians when they speak, including their funny "Hindi". The worst people on earth when it comes to Pronouncing words in any language.

Fortunately, it is easy to understand Pakistanis, even the British version. But not so fortunately, that makes it a worse situation; what comes across is totally unhinged minds in a totally unhinged mass hysteria.

You are right here. I' have never pause for a second when I spot an Indian or their propaganda. Do you think I have time to waste for the most ridiculously racists race on the planet earth!!

No, I do not think that you have time to waste for the most ridiculously racists race on the planet Earth. How fortunate that this has led to a few terse posts. Imagine if you did have the time to waste: the Earth would wobble on its axis.

No. If you read my recent post, I am 100% sure Indians would strike again. I am just warning them for the results of their attack(s).

This is to bring to your notice and to the notice of the world that your warnings have had a telling effect on the 1.2 million strong Indian Army, the 140,000 Indian Air Force and the 67,000 Indian Navy. Just your warnings alone.

No, I have used the "Bombay" wala definition of the Brain.

Naughty, naughty, somebody's been talking to Hafiz Sayeed.

Another stupid assumption by another egocentric Indian. Laughing at idiots is better than crying like Modi.

What, no school????

What is in the count!! The proportionality remains the same. Doesn't matter.
Smart Alec, I can bust your nuts without using the nutcracker anytime of the day.

Right. No school, and the immediate result; no arithmetic.

Sir, ye lafz kahan se sun bethe aap?

Some silly Bollywood movie. You know how their language sucks.

আরে যেটা জানি না সেটা বানিয়ে ফেলি !

Since when did you consider yourself to be a fool? I can imagine you saying to yourself - 'let me pretend to myself to be a fool while replying to the fools' - while chuckling away in front of the screen. Oh man! why don't the fools get it?

It could be because they are young or they are fools. Shall we agree on their being young?

 

[thinkingcap81]

It could be because they are young or they are fools. Shall we agree on their being young?

Yes, for the time being - you can be charitable towards them. But they won't be young forever, only their age shall increase, and the cycle will keep repeating - relentlessly.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Don't need to. The worst enemy of Pakistan is Pakistanis.



On every single point, starting with the impression about British Pakistanis among other British citizens compared to their impressions about British Indians, for instance, or the general impression throughout the world, we need to say nothing. You do all the talking against yourselves. Vicious Indians sit back, consume their popcorn and watch the tamasha; concerned Indians like me wring their hands helplessly.

We became a power, not a superpower, through our steady economic rise. Not through gorilla-like chest-beating but through solid achievement.



I acknowledge the rationality and logic of your post. Brilliant, and typical.



No time considering the time I spend gaping at the exploits of Pakistanis rather than the reports on the world press.



What a shame that you win every battle and yet lose every war.



Don't know about 'nothing', what we are helpless witnesses to is that nothing stops you. Perhaps we should try muzzles or insulate ourselves with the equivalent of muffler earphones.



Every Pakistani fan-boy is obviously sitting in on decisions at strategic levels. How well you know your administration's plans!



It will be when it will be, not when you are jumping up and down on the sidelines.



According to Pakistan's own press releases, no damage, no casualties (deliberately so), and a tale of two shootings. Spectacular, indeed.



You really shouldn't neglect your medication.



Fortunately, it is easy to understand Pakistanis, even the British version. But not so fortunately, that makes it a worse situation; what comes across is totally unhinged minds in a totally unhinged mass hysteria.



No, I do not think that you have time to waste for the most ridiculously racists race on the planet Earth. How fortunate that this has led to a few terse posts. Imagine if you did have the time to waste: the Earth would wobble on its axis.



This is to bring to your notice and to the notice of the world that your warnings have had a telling effect on the 1.2 million strong Indian Army, the 140,000 Indian Air Force and the 67,000 Indian Navy. Just your warnings alone.



Naughty, naughty, somebody's been talking to Hafiz Sayeed.





Some silly Bollywood movie. You know how their language sucks.

আরে যেটা জানি না সেটা বানিয়ে ফেলি !



It could be because they are young or they are fools. Shall we agree on their being young?

Indian, I don't have spare time to waste on a deluded person. Two videos are enough to burst your bubble. Instead of BS deal with real facts staring at your face.

Don't need to. The worst enemy of Pakistan is Pakistanis.



On every single point, starting with the impression about British Pakistanis among other British citizens compared to their impressions about British Indians, for instance, or the general impression throughout the world, we need to say nothing. You do all the talking against yourselves. Vicious Indians sit back, consume their popcorn and watch the tamasha; concerned Indians like me wring their hands helplessly.

We became a power, not a superpower, through our steady economic rise. Not through gorilla-like chest-beating but through solid achievement.



I acknowledge the rationality and logic of your post. Brilliant, and typical.



No time considering the time I spend gaping at the exploits of Pakistanis rather than the reports on the world press.



What a shame that you win every battle and yet lose every war.



Don't know about 'nothing', what we are helpless witnesses to is that nothing stops you. Perhaps we should try muzzles or insulate ourselves with the equivalent of muffler earphones.



Every Pakistani fan-boy is obviously sitting in on decisions at strategic levels. How well you know your administration's plans!



It will be when it will be, not when you are jumping up and down on the sidelines.



According to Pakistan's own press releases, no damage, no casualties (deliberately so), and a tale of two shootings. Spectacular, indeed.



You really shouldn't neglect your medication.



Fortunately, it is easy to understand Pakistanis, even the British version. But not so fortunately, that makes it a worse situation; what comes across is totally unhinged minds in a totally unhinged mass hysteria.



No, I do not think that you have time to waste for the most ridiculously racists race on the planet Earth. How fortunate that this has led to a few terse posts. Imagine if you did have the time to waste: the Earth would wobble on its axis.



This is to bring to your notice and to the notice of the world that your warnings have had a telling effect on the 1.2 million strong Indian Army, the 140,000 Indian Air Force and the 67,000 Indian Navy. Just your warnings alone.



Naughty, naughty, somebody's been talking to Hafiz Sayeed.





Some silly Bollywood movie. You know how their language sucks.

আরে যেটা জানি না সেটা বানিয়ে ফেলি !



It could be because they are young or they are fools. Shall we agree on their being young?

Look self deluded Indian. No surprises there. I don't have free time to burn to respond to a psychologically challenged person.
Two videos are enough from the horses' mouths. No further comments required.

1- Boosting days before Balakot marvel at which whole world is laughing.

And Modi crying to the nation afterwards, discarding all of his air force with one sentence.

nuf said.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yes, for the time being - you can be charitable towards them. But they won't be young forever, only their age shall increase, and the cycle will keep repeating - relentlessly.

LOL.

That is not the problem. The problem is that their meagre intellect remains meagre, or even occasionally diminishes.

 

[MastanKhan]

I had read your post (which you have shown here) within a couple of days of your posting it. I search for your posts with the search button.

I do agree that PAF could not stop IAF ingress. Whether it was due to negligence or lack of resources to monitor the complete border is not something i can estimate.

An attempt to shoot down 15-20 aircraft of IAF for this kinda thing is downright silly. I wonder if in between some out-of-box thoughts @MastanKhan chooses to put in something ridiculous.

I am just a civilian trying not to react to one-sided information - hence i need to take both perspectives into account and yet see what is our gain in this.

@Oscar said that PAF achieved air superiority. I allowed myself to agree with him, while still believing that an F-16 can be shot.

Can MKIs dodge 4+ AIM-120C5 with the electronic countermeasures that MKI and other assets have - this in the context of the air battle that actually took place.

If it is true that a lot of PAF aircraft came and we had less aircraft to push them back, then what to make of this?

Pakistani members have put forth their versions, in some detail, of what actually happened. Indian members have not.



You are an Indian busting fantasies of fellow Indians, while i meant Pakistanis in an Indian forum counter-arguing Indians. At least BR seems bad in this aspect.

But as you know, one can be always be dismissive and contemptuous of others while allowing them just to speak - this seems to be the general policy here.

Hi,

The first night---it was all about un-predictability for the indian air force---.

Whomsoever had gone in with a solid determination would have won the round.

Incidently---the indians chose not to and the pakistais said if they don't want to---then we also don't want to---.

From what happened the first night---the Paf was happier in shooing off the indian aircraft across the border---. And if the indian politicians had not made a mountain out of a mole hill---and kept quiet about the " surgical strike & 300 dead "---Paf would be least bothered about the ingress---.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Indian, I don't have spare time to waste on a deluded person. Two videos are enough to burst your bubble. Instead of BS deal with real facts staring at your face.

Maybe_Brit_maybe_never_the_short_form, you go first.

Look self deluded Indian. No surprises there. I don't have free time to burn to respond to a psychologically challenged person.
Two videos are enough from the horses' mouths. No further comments required.

Agreed, no further comments, as soon as you learn to make out one end of a horse from the other.

1- Boosting days before Balakot marvel at which whole world is laughing.

....and that is why the entire diaspora is fighting to convince the whole world that it is laughing.

And Modi crying to the nation afterwards, discarding all of his air force with one sentence /quote]

I'm going to use naughty language: he's got an election to win.

nuf said.

No, no, what'll we do without your posts???

SOMEBODY, HELP!!!

Bro

Source/link for the Red Cross story?

It's like 'bewafadari'; he made it up on the spot.

 

[MastanKhan]

You talk of the trap set up by PAF which knocked down two of their jets but ignore the trap that IAF could have layed down for our jets. Imagine 4 Pakistan F16s chasing down SU30s into IOK and getting shot down by Mig 21s that were there waiting in low altitude (what Pakistan did to iaf). Anyways not responding at the time, there and then , proved to be a blessing as it saved Pakistan from being in a possibly totally different scenario.
Now another aspect of looking at this question of responding at that night involves the realization that it is difficult to counter a well planned all out air force attack specially if there is use of stand off weapons. An example is that of Pakistan which targeted 80km inside IOK from Pakistan's own territory or very shallow inside the IOK. In the modern warfare there is no room for quick unplanned responses which is exactle what PAF demonstrated. I believe that our PAF already knew this type of Indian plan of attack and thought it best to give a befitting response to the Indians in the form of a surprise the very next morning and not at that night.
You are right to say that the picture would have been quite different if all 14 Indian jets were downed by PAF that night but that would be misplaced idealism and wrong estimation of enemy war capacity.
Pakistan has made her point to the Indian army and air force that morning 10 am, if not the government of India. Also , the message that Pakistan gave to the world powers regarding the Pakistani response they should expect in case of further Indian misadventure, is also going to change the stance of the powers with regards to India-Pakistan conflict.

Hi,

There were two groups of aircraft coming in---one of around 14---and the other of around 25---30

 

[crankthatskunk]

Maybe_Brit_maybe_never_the_short_form, you go first.




Agreed, no further comments, as soon as you learn to make out one end of a horse from the other.



....and that is why the entire diaspora is fighting to convince the whole world that it is laughing.





It's like 'bewafadari'; he made it up on the spot.

You are deluded, I give you that. Given you are a lost Indian, your nick, your posts are proofs enough. Over and out.