Air War Is Coming:---

[I.R.A]

People know me here and I said what I need to and how much it was required , ur opinion doesn’t matter.
U r picking up fight with wrong guy lad

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Air war only? modi and co believe in some sorts of prophecy and they won't just limit the conflict to aerial engagements. He wants a war and the best thing someone in Pakistan's position and situation can do is .... deny him what he wishes.

And why should Pakistan get dragged into a conventional war? It doesn't suit it at all .... In my opinion the best thing Pakistan can do now is avoid all and every attempts to get itself dragged into a short lived conventional war, we don't again anything from it even if we are victorious. However, based on what happened to us in that decade long unconventional war, the damage, the loss ...... the response should be well thought and on similar lines .... its lengthy, its tiring, and the best thing ..... it achieves a lot with little spending. Remember india can in no way directly trace that Pulwama attack back to Pakistan, they can cry Jaish this Jaish that but it was resident of IoK ...... be it even a false flag, who wouldn't want to benefit from such false flags. Remain defensive on conventional warfare side show max restraint ..... but on the other side don't forget lessons learnt from our WoT .....

 

[Arsalan]

That effectively defines our positions most satisfactorily.



Possibly. We are about to suffer a lengthy and windy essay explaining this in detail, so seatbelts on.



Is a breathy 'No!', and a wide-open gaze and a seat on the edge of my chair an acceptable response?



I look forward to your dissolving your Army. Could you suggest a date?



No doubt this has pertinence. I will consult a colleague who is a linguist.



The possibility exists. Let us hope, but let us not hold our breath. A Pakistan without an Army and with your tribal mindset is a daunting prospect. Consider 1.2 billion people to be shaking with fear.



Wrong verb, wrong action and it is always a mistake to fight with books; those things are lethal.

Rather more than automatics and other guns, but individuals such as you will find out for yourself within a couple of centuries.



Yes you are right; the Libyans, the Tunisians, the Syrians, the Iraqis, the Afghans, all are quite on top of the situation and everyone in sight is running away from them.

Do you live in a situation where professional help is available?



Yes, we heard your pilots laughing especially hard. In particular, Air Chief Marshal Parvaiz Mehdi Qureshi. You might have heard of him.



What is a scale of war situation? Something to do with tribal mindsets and connected to automatics and other such guns?

Do tribal mindsets include the meaning of FOC?



I note that you are laughing, and think that the world is laughing. This can be treated effectively.



Actually, I hope it doesn't humiliate you to be reminded that your hero has nothing to do with a tribal mindset. That he is from a completely different cultural heritage. Why is it that your greatest heros are Bihari?



No shit, Sherlock.

@Dubious, please believe that I had nothing to do with these provocative remarks. My sincere apologies for having written in style similar to yours.

@Arsalan, you are doomed. Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.

Speechless

 

[The Accountant]

F-16 was bagged with an IR guided missile. Mig by an A2A missile..

Any proof of that ? Any radar data ? F16 event is already denied by US ...

Not here. Because frankly, no one wants an idiotic conversation where the laws of physics also get reinvented. I made that mistake here, of asking the question on how can a claim of another IAF pilot being in their custody be corroborated with the theory put forth by them that the Pilot ejected from a Su-30 MKI and landed in their side and the Su-30 MKI landed in Indian side? That too when the IAF aircrafts were in a westerly direction on an intercept vector and the wind was west to east?

That thread was closed soon thereafter.

You are not the only one with knowledge of physics ... the plane got hit when he was fleeing away ... It is natural that a plane even destroyed will glide alot longer in air due to its speed of Mach 2 then a parachute who is not even sure of the direction where he want to go

 

[Hellfire]

In iok when they struck 6 targets as far as nararayan 80 kms from borders... Near budgam... Where u lost that heli... Shot down another 2 of your air craft and happily returned home without sustaining a loss... While rest of su 30s refused to engage

Is this a troll post? Or are you seriously trying to tell me what happened with information not 'heard from someone' sourced?

So, now you have struck as far as 80 kms? Would you like you to make it 800?

Any proof of that ? Any radar data ? F16 event is already denied by US ...

US has not made any statement on the use. Even if used/not used it is a moot point. Irrelevant as far as I am concerned.

You are not the only one with knowledge of physics ... the plane got hit when he was fleeing away ... It is natural that a plane even destroyed will glide alot longer in air due to its speed of Mach 2 then a parachute who is not even sure of the direction where he want to go

Ok, so now it was fleeing. Within Indian territory?

Because the only aircraft which came in technical violation on our side was Mig-21, which crossed over and was shot.

So, assuming Su-30 MKI was fleeing, and Su-30 MKI was say, adjacent to LC, and was shot down, care to explain how does a lighter load on a parachute (assuming a standard load of 100 kgs) land in your side while Su-30 MKI at 18.4 tonnes approx, land in India, with winds blowing in west to east direction? (News for you sunshine, Westerlies predominate in this area in this season)
Like I said, Zia physics is something I certainly can not argue with.

Don't waste my time quoting me and posting non-sense.

Ciao

 

[Joe Shearer]

Any proof of that ? Any radar data ? F16 event is already denied by US ...

AFAIK there is a fake piece of news about Lockheed Martin having denied it, when that company went on record to say it had issued no such statement.

There is NO official comment from the Government of the US.

You are not the only one with knowledge of physics ... the plane got hit when he was fleeing away ... It is natural that a plane even destroyed will glide alot longer in air due to its speed of Mach 2 then a parachute who is not even sure of the direction where he want to go

This is where things break down. These planes do not glide down; they drop like a brick. Trust me on this; I helped build them (the electronics and avionics parts, at any rate).

Both your points are inaccurate.

@Vibrio

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Air war only? modi and co believe in some sorts of prophecy and they won't just limit the conflict to aerial engagements. He wants a war and the best thing someone in Pakistan's position and situation can do is .... deny him what he wishes.

And why should Pakistan get dragged into a conventional war? It doesn't suit it at all .... In my opinion the best thing Pakistan can do now is avoid all and every attempts to get itself dragged into a short lived conventional war, we don't again anything from it even if we are victorious. However, based on what happened to us in that decade long unconventional war, the damage, the loss ...... the response should be well thought and on similar lines .... its lengthy, its tiring, and the best thing ..... it achieves a lot with little spending. Remember india can in no way directly trace that Pulwama attack back to Pakistan, they can cry Jaish this Jaish that but it was resident of IoK ...... be it even a false flag, who wouldn't want to benefit from such false flags. Remain defensive on conventional warfare side show max restraint ..... but on the other side don't forget lessons learnt from our WoT .....

Impeccable logic.

Pity you are on the wrong side. Damn!

Could I tempt you with pictures of Hyderabad accommodation and remind you about Hyderabadi biryani and haleem?

@jbgt90 - don't shoot me; he'll improve the intellectual climate.

 

[The Accountant]

Is this a troll post? Or are you seriously trying to tell me what happened with information not 'heard from someone' sourced?

So, now you have struck as far as 80 kms? Would you like you to make it 800?



US has not made any statement on the use. Even if used/not used it is a moot point. Irrelevant as far as I am concerned.






Ok, so now it was fleeing. Within Indian territory?

Because the only aircraft which came in technical violation on our side was Mig-21, which crossed over and was shot.

So, assuming Su-30 MKI was fleeing, and Su-30 MKI was say, adjacent to LC, and was shot down, care to explain how does a lighter load on a parachute (assuming a standard load of 100 kgs) land in your side while Su-30 MKI at 18.4 tonnes approx, land in India, with winds blowing in west to east direction? (News for you sunshine, Westerlies predominate in this area in this season)
Like I said, Zia physics is something I certainly can not argue with.

Don't waste my time quoting me and posting non-sense.

Ciao

If you dont want to quote me stop spreading false propaganda ... 18.4 ton plane travelling at speed of mach 2 ... Ever heard of something called momentum?

 

[kursed]

F-16 was bagged with an IR guided missile. Mig by an A2A missile..

The wreckage of Mig-21 Bison piloted by WC Abhinandan has both R-73s in tact. Gov of India and IAF are lying about firing missiles. There were none fired by WC that day.

 

[Joe Shearer]

If you dont want to quote me stop spreading false propaganda ... 18.4 ton plane travelling at speed of mach 2 ... Ever heard of something called momentum?

Momentum doesn't carry a plane for that far.

 

[I.R.A]

Pity you are on the wrong side. Damn!

You want my face on those memes instead Adnan Sami ...... not very nice of you sir g.

Could I tempt you with pictures of Hyderabad accommodation and remind you about Hyderabadi biryani and haleem?

Sir g chotay chotay bachay hain mayray ....... q mayri zindagi ajiran karnay lagy ho ap?

 

[Joe Shearer]

The wreckage of Mig-21 Bison piloted by WC Abhinandan has both R-73s in tact. Gov of India and IAF are lying about firing missiles. There were none fired by WC that day.

Really? You were there? You counted? You took them off? You have them on display?

Or is it what ought to have happened?

You want my face on those memes instead Adnan Sami ...... not very nice of you sir g.



Sir g chotay chotay bachay hain mayray ....... q mayri zindagi ajiran karnay lagy ho ap?

<wounded look!>

Just trying to be helpful.

Poor Adnan, meanwhile, is having a very rocky time convincing totally humourless bhakts (there isn't any other kind but no harm pointing that out for the 2,337,894th time) that it is all a Pakistani joke. They aren't totally convinced.

 

[I.R.A]

Just trying to be helpful.

Innay kakay v nai ho ap.

Poor Adnan, meanwhile, is having a very rocky time convincing totally humourless bhakts (there isn't any other kind but no harm pointing that out for the 2,337,894th time) that it is all a Pakistani joke. They aren't totally convinced.

........ he (Adnan Sami) should try growing the foreskin back ..... that may not only convince but make the bakht a happy bakht.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Innay kakay v nai ho ap.



........ he (Adnan Sami) should try growing the foreskin back ..... that may not only convince but make the bakht a happy bakht.

Now I can't shut my eyes because of the hideous visions that float up. Thou hast conquered...etc., etc. (with apologies to Swinburne).

Now I can't shut my eyes because of the hideous visions that float up. Thou hast conquered...etc., etc. (with apologies to Swinburne).

That song is quintessentially the kaffir's lament about the spread of tauhid, and all that it carried with it. I suddenly feel melancholy, and the Bhakts with Adnanbhai image is only a small part of it.

 

[Hellfire]

If you dont want to quote me stop spreading false propaganda ... 18.4 ton plane travelling at speed of mach 2 ... Ever heard of something called momentum?

Bold = Zia Physics!

Again.

How does your Zia Physics dictate that in an area with prevalence of Westerlies (a wind direction from west to east), the pilot bailing out from a supposedly fleeing aircraft, at all in weight of 100 kgs approximately, lands in a direction opposite to that of the direction of wind flow and the aircraft, downstream? The said aircraft, after being supposedly struck, adhering to principles of aerodynamics? Is it a vacuum where shear forces suddenly reduce/disappear?

RIP intellect.

@Joe Shearer for your post, to paraphrase the legendary Majord1 of Bangladesh Army posted at NATO Headquarters in London & whose legendary insights we were blessed to have here, you have not studies of air-on-dynamics principles. Many peoples have studies Zia Physics and proved that lighter payload moves against wind and heavier goes downstream on momentum, not glide. There is nothing called forward air speed if momentum is there. Absolutely no correlation with drag!

 

[The Accountant]

This is where things break down. These planes do not glide down; they drop like a brick. Trust me on this; I helped build them (the electronics and avionics parts, at any rate).

Agreed,

Now throw a brick straight in the air at Mach 2 at 40K feet hight, how far will it travel? WIll it drop down at the place where it got hit or will it fall down after several Kms ... I guess we all knows the answer ... Considering your professional tag i assume you have guts to answer the truth from point of view of physics

 

[I.R.A]

That song is quintessentially the kaffir's lament about the spread of tauhid, and all that it carried with it. I suddenly feel melancholy, and the Bhakts with Adnanbhai image is only a small part of it.

The ghar wapsi invitations to Pakistan and Pakistanis need not be violent ....... we can sit and discuss the invitation card designs in a more peaceful manner.

I recently enjoyed a two week company of a Pakistani Hindu (a brilliant cook, invited me twice for a lunch and both the times meal was just ..... to quote Abhinandan "Fantastic"). In our frank conversations ..... his family did try settling in india but now they are back in Pakistan ..... previously india looked better but now they think Pakistan is more safe for them.