Air Force Question Thread

[Patriot]

1.) status of Aim 7 sparow in PAF.
A)Pakistan does not operate Sparrows.
2)night precision attack capability of PAF F-16 & mirrages.
Ans) DAMN GOOD
3) H2 & H4 ARE PGM OR AA BVR MISSILES?
Well we've only heard about it in Media and yes h2 and h4 exist and i am not sure about BVR.
4) BVR MISSILE USED WITH ROSE UPGRADED MIRRAGES . DEVELOPED INDIGENOUSLY?
As above

 

[shr_bwp]

Anybody know to which branch Air Vice Marshal (retired) Bahar ul haq belonged? Supposedly, he is the father of Faisal Shahzad........

Is he the same Sqn Ldr Bahar ul Haq who formed the Sherdils when he was an Instructor in Risalpur (1972)?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Anybody know to which branch Air Vice Marshal (retired) Bahar ul haq belonged? Supposedly, he is the father of Faisal Shahzad........

Is he the same Sqn Ldr Bahar ul Haq who formed the Sherdils when he was an Instructor in Risalpur (1972)?

It seems so, as the AVM Bahar Ul Haq retired around 1992, thus if he was a Sqd Ldr in 1972, the profile fits him to be a retired AVM by 1992.

 

[Blackpearl]

Can somebody confirm that Air Chief Marshall Rao Qamar Suleman is not from F-16 pilot stream, he is basically a Mirage pilot, neither he has commanded F-16 squadron nor Sargodha Airforce Base?

 

[Patriot]

^ That is correct.He has flown mainly Mirages and F6.

 

[F86 Saber]

Ok i have a few very basic and novice questions about PAF from our senior PAF members


1. What kind of call signs do our pilots and ground control use?
2. Which language is used for communication between A/Cs and
ground control?

 

[guru8904]

Ok i have a few very basic and novice questions about PAF from our senior PAF members


1. What kind of call signs do our pilots and ground control use?
2. Which language is used for communication between A/Cs and
ground control?

The call signs are alloted by the Air Headquarters and the language used for communication is English.

 

[guru8904]

Anybody know to which branch Air Vice Marshal (retired) Bahar ul haq belonged? Supposedly, he is the father of Faisal Shahzad........

Is he the same Sqn Ldr Bahar ul Haq who formed the Sherdils when he was an Instructor in Risalpur (1972)?

You are right. He was from flying branch and that's why he was there in the Sherdils.

 

[Javed3]

AVM Bahar ul Haq is from the B-57 Bomber stream. He was OC 7 Sqn Masroor for a long time. His performance during the 1971 war was commendable; known for his consistency under tough conditions when numerous B-57's were lost during night missions.

 

[F86 Saber]

The call signs are alloted by the Air Headquarters and the language used for communication is English.

Thanks, can you also give example of some call signs? Also what kind of importance does a call sign have? I mean are they unique like if there's a call sign allocated to someone it will not change till he retires?

 

[guru8904]

Thanks, can you also give example of some call signs? Also what kind of importance does a call sign have? I mean are they unique like if there's a call sign allocated to someone it will not change till he retires?

All kinds of words are used for the squadron call signs ranging from regional,historical, cultural and Islamic. Some examples are Shaheen, Khalid, Haider, Arrow etc etc. Individual pilot call signs are not permanent; rather, a squadron is given one call sign and starting from the senior most pilot, the same prefix is used in numerical order e.g. if No. 71 squadron is given the call sign Tiger, then the pilots' call signs will start like Tiger 101, Tiger 102, Tiger 103 and if there are 13 pilots in the squadron, the junior most will have the call sign Tiger 113.
Since most of the flying in fighter squadrons is carried out in formations of 2 or more aircraft, pilots are also allotted formation call signs. Again, they are based on alphabets, colours etc etc e.g. for No. 53 squadron, the formation call signs could be Shaheen Alpha, Shaheen Bravo, Shaheen Charlie or Shaheen Silver, Shaheen Black, Shaheen Red.
There is no such thing as a permanent call sign allotted to an individual pilot. On transfer from one squadron to another, a pilot becomes Eagle 45 from Raider 264. Similarly, the formation call signs also change when you move from one squadron to another.

 

[Muradk]

The call signs are alloted by the Air Headquarters and the language used for communication is English.

Call Sings are alloted by the SQD you serve in. AHQ only gives out call signs to pilots who serves AHQ and want to fly. those call signs are/ start with ( Shaheen ) and then a number well this was how they did it in our days.
English is the official language but there are some SQD where the english is too difficult because everything is in code words like CCS.
for example they guy said ok PANCAKE and I said well are you hungry he says negative I am not hungry that means return to base. So next time you are with your wife at a party you can easily go and say PANCAKE OR EXTEND if she says extend which means stay if she says pancake well you better get your butt home. When senior officer of SQD fly they can speak anything they want to the other pilot they are flying with. When I flew with Hakim SB spoke Pusto when flew with Naeem Atta spoke punjabi even during a dogfight in 71 war. and who ever flew with nosy had to keep a dictionary with him his english was very good and he used words which were bigger than the saber its self.

 

[Muradk]

Question members do you know who Air Cdre Masroor died. The real story????

 

[Patriot]

Question members do you know who Air Cdre Masroor died. The real story????

No sir you spill the beans

 

[Muradk]

He died flying a bomber, A eagle hit his canopy broke the canopy and hit his face the navigator was screaming his guts out Eject Eject Eject but his head was just resting on his shoulders. Finally the Nav jumped out but Masroor Sb didn't. He was a great man and great officer if he would have lived he would have gone to the top as COAS. There are always some officer when you see them or fly with them you can say he will reach the top. In 1974 sitting in Flight Ops talking to Khawaja I said these 2 kids Rashid and shahid Latif will go to the top and they did and then there were officer who we used to say if he can just start the engine I will give him Rs 100/- which was a lot of money in 74 and yes they used to sit and then go blank not that they didn't know they didn't have the confidence and when an IP was sitting with them they flew beautifully.