AH-1Z Viper, 1000 Hellfire II Missiles approved for sale to Pakistan.

[Manticore]

India has offered a follow-on order of 39 AH-64D Apache helicopters in addition to the 22 now being negotiated, a Defence Ministry official said. The sides have been wrangling over the price of the gunships, however, with the initial deal having been estimated to be worth $1.4 billion.
indian March 31 deadline
India offers to buy more U.S. helicopters, hopes to drive down costs

what was included in the apache/hellfire deal ? Want to find out unit costs of viper vs apache
@sancho

 

[airmarshal]

Comparing US equipment with Chinese is quite foolish.

Pakistani policy makers know more than us the risks in buying US weapons but they still prefer it. That says a lot.

 

[cabatli_53]

BTW, I don't suppose Pakistan is going to order attack helicopters from multiple sources because Turkey/Pakistan like countries don't have such luxury to waste own resources to order different kind of attack helicopters from various countries which costs too much for maintenance, training and logistics.

USA advantages: Having a family of Cobra series in Pakistani inventory would decrease training and maintenance costs.
Chinese advantages: Gifted 3 attack copters.
Turkish advantages: Offering gift + ToT

 

[hunter_hunted]

And you might be aware of the cost per hellfire?
Just to blow up one mud house or kill a few talibunnies,too costly.
We need something like Russian MI-35 to shove a few hundred cheap bullets up Talibunnies rear ends.

We have drone for that kind of blowing. "Sasta aur tikau" is our national motto

 

[cabatli_53]

Comparing US equipment with Chinese is quite foolish.

Pakistani policy makers know more than us the risks in buying US weapons but they still prefer it. That says a lot.

Bro, USA aviation industry always offers the best of the World but The worst thing is that You can't even unbolting some product without USA permission.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

It,s 12:15 pm in india they are already awaken probably May be they are too busy buying some burnol

Once they wake up after the shock it can be any time not when the actually wake up in the morning

 

[SipahSalar]

Turkish advantages: Offering gift + ToT

There are only rumors of ToT, we don't know if we have actually been offered ToT.

 

[Goenitz]

pakistan will buy three types

MI-35 deal sign
cobra approved
z-10 under trail we will decide

that would be hell of logistic (chinese, russian and US).... more men will be required to maintain difft helis plus too much strain on dealing different spare parts from different countries...burden on integrating communication system from same control tower and many more...

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

• AWACS locate Enemy Armored thrust
• Low flying Fighter armed with H.A.R.M attack armored column and take out SAM shield
• Fighters in CAP mode providing air cover from any retaliation from air
• In second wave, Zulus coming in lead, while Z10 supporting to unleash awesome fire power on enemy tanks and vehicles
• Severely hurt and downgraded enemy slowly close in to meet hail of rockets, armed with anti personal and armored munition fired form battery of MBRLs.
• With 25% remaining strength enemy is engaged by MBTs to finish them off.

 

[Goenitz]

And you might be aware of the cost per hellfire?
Just to blow up one mud house or kill a few talibunnies,too costly.
We need something like Russian MI-35 to shove a few hundred cheap bullets up Talibunnies rear ends.

one hellfire can kill one indian tank... plus heli can scoot.. using TOWs heli has to stay and control the missile for a kill

Ah-6 is no way comparative to Mi-35 it's Armour,it's massive firepower and above all it's 1600kw engines,it is in category of MH-60 even better then that.

its bulky, maintenance nightmare and too much fuel consuming... read for general overview of russian machines..
Boeing CH-47F Chinook vs Mi-26TZ, what good for India?

 

[Imran Khan]

that would be hell of logistic (chinese, russian and US).... more men will be required to maintain difft helis plus too much strain on dealing different spare parts from different countries...burden on integrating communication system from same control tower and many more...

but we will be sanctions free not like P3-C case of 90s boss

OMG, If DSCA is revealed, It means Bell Textron took permission for export. After this period, It is about Pakistani selection among Atak, AH-1Z. That's the actual reason USA moaning regarding exportation of T129 Atak engines to Pakistan... AH-1Z is an increadible helicopter that rare copters can cope with. Its 3rd generation thermals along with three barrel 20mm cannon will be more than enough to send terrorists into stoneage...

Important points are; DSCA paper is about taking permission from congress for a likely export. If Bell needs to do it, It means There is a serious concern from Pakistani side to order an attack copter (One of Atak, AH-1Z, Apache, Z-10) and Bell is seriously interested in exporting own copters so completed bureaucratic procedures quickly.

DSCA paper doesn't mean Pakistan choosed AH-1Z. It just reflects an ongoing progress to acquire a certain attack copter in following months/years. The price and amount of copters to be issued on DSCA papers doesn't reflect the truths. The papers aims an avarage calculation of money for an aproximately requested copter+ missile. When serious negotiations are commenced on signiture phase, The price can be rapidly decreased with bargains in accordance with costumer requests. That's How USA institutes work...

please don't break our dreams

Yaar Imran saray freak out ho rahay hain en ko sumjhao bhai Yeh Imdad main mil jayen gay free free free ... And Z-10 is not going any where neither ATAK we will see it soon we will gonna over whelmed with systems availability .

1Z will be bought off the shelf where as ATAK will be with full TOT and then Z-10 will be progressed into an Apache like gunship in few years. So all the systems seems to be complementing each other ...
Kisi ki maiyya marnay wali hai yeh khaber parh ker ROFL

it will make pakistan helicopters ki hera mandi

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

but we will be sanctions free not like P3-C case of 90s boss


please don't break our dreams


it will make pakistan helicopters ki hera mandi

biwiyan not GFs

 

[Goenitz]

but we will be sanctions free not like P3-C case of 90s boss

may be thats why accessories are being procured in huge numbers ...but US machines are maintenance 'free' .. that gives us 20 years.. as per admin. Pak is not paying for it but some 'friends'. so its like a gift not choice... may be these are for any indian surprise in case our army is involved somehwere else..

 

[fanna4paf2]

this is funny think when no one option we have then america refuse when we get options they are ready to give us. what they hell of this please try to understand there policy they just take benefit. this approvel done after when we are trying z-10

 

[Path-Finder]

I remember Years ago Turkey began Looking at Russian Helis as the Yanks were being arses about supplying Cobra's to them and the Tactic worked Yanks Sam delivered few cobras to keep it Sweet this was before T129 was Born. Glad to see Pakistan doing something like it to keep em on their toes.