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Here once again, you seem to be in no mood of talking, who's playing the victim here or if I'm not being aggressive here that makes me the victim to you? Is that it? I'm genuinely asking.

Second, that's the point, your use of the word 'Jihad' doesn't mean that is the only use. That's what I'm trying to show you, it means different things to different people. Does that not seem to be important for you to take into consideration?

Third, obviously, everyone has a right to their opinion but as certain you are about RSS and I'm merely pointing out that that's what it has been known to do, it has been documented to do, it has been doing and I'm pointing that out and not even judging it makes you want to throw that away. Why? The culture and historical context of Hinduism is being used in a more militant and less tolerant form, by that, what it means in the most basic sense is the black and white thinking: I'm right, you're wrong mentality. Again, as I pointed out, this is a political and not a religious phenomenon. There is no debate, just perhaps your ideology coming in? (I'm questioning, not assuming and you can see I've not used any ideology in my arguments to you)

Awaiting your response, sir.
My use of the word "jihad" was referenced to a particular context. You are the one who chose to take it outside that context.

Again I repeat, RSS does not interpret Hinduism. Strict or otherwise. It has views based on the cultural and historical context of Hinduism and opinions based on existing reality. What remains to be debated ?

I heard you and replied to you. You are always free to say that you disagree with the other poster and I have no problem with that. What is the need to play the victim ?
 
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Yes, right!

Just because it doesn't take part in elections doesn't mean it has no political affiliations.

“The support of RSS swayamsevaks (volunteers) is crucial for the party in its election campaign in Uttar Pradesh and across the country," said a senior BJP leader based in Lucknow.

TTP is not a political organization!

RSS swayamsevaks are free to join ANY political party in India and help ANY political party they fancy.

Most fancy the BJP because BJP stands for the same values as RSS.

If a RSS member helps the congress it does not mean they will stop being RSS members or that he will be expelled.

So you're saying ISIS is Islam?

Who am I to claim anything ?

ISIS themselves are saying they are fighting to establish Islam and Islamic State and practice islamic law.
 
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RSS swayamsevaks are free to join ANY political party in India and help ANY political party they fancy.

Most fancy the BJP because BJP stands for the same values as RSS.

If a RSS member helps the congress it does not mean they will stop being RSS members or that he will be expelled.



Who am I to claim anything ?

ISIS themselves are saying they are fighting to establish Islam and Islamic State and practice islamic law.

You say there is no difference between Islam and Islamic so isis must be practicing Islam too according to you. After all, they have the word Islamic in it.
 
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Here once again, you seem to be in no mood of talking, who's playing the victim here or if I'm not being aggressive here that makes me the victim to you? Is that it? I'm genuinely asking.

Strange comment to make to someone who is replying to ALL your posts.

Second, that's the point, your use of the word 'Jihad' doesn't mean that is the only use. That's what I'm trying to show you, it means different things to different people. Does that not seem to be important for you to take into consideration?

I never claimed that is the only use of the word Jihad. My own definition provided an alternate meaning.

Why should I consider its secondary meaning when I was using that word in its primary context and reference ?


Third, obviously, everyone has a right to their opinion but as certain you are about RSS and I'm merely pointing out that that's what it has been known to do, it has been documented to do, it has been doing and I'm pointing that out and not even judging it makes you want to throw that away. Why? The culture and historical context of Hinduism is being used in a more militant and less tolerant form, by that, what it means in the most basic sense is the black and white thinking: I'm right, you're wrong mentality. Again, as I pointed out, this is a political and not a religious phenomenon. There is no debate, just perhaps your ideology coming in? (I'm questioning, not assuming and you can see I've not used any ideology in my arguments to you)

Awaiting your response, sir.

There is NO history of RSS ever having interpreted Hinduism.

Every thought and action is in reference to existing realities and if the condition today demands a more militant and less tolerant variation then that is what the society will adopt and advocate. This is the right approach.

Hinduism does not deal with "right and wrong". That is a very abrahamic and primitive concept. Hinduism deals with "roles and responsibilities", "actions and reactions", "actions and consequences"

You say there is no difference between Islam and Islamic so isis must be practicing Islam too according to you. After all, they have the word Islamic in it.

They are claiming they are practicing islam and has quoted islamic texts to support their claims.

Who are you to deny them their rights ?
 
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RSS swayamsevaks are free to join ANY political party in India and help ANY political party they fancy.

Most fancy the BJP because BJP stands for the same values as RSS.

If a RSS member helps the congress it does not mean they will stop being RSS members or that he will be expelled.

RSS described the BJP win as the victory of national forces.

So, as an organization, RSS supported BJP.. and I don't think volunteers will go against the organization's standpoint.
 
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They are claiming they are practicing islam and has quoted islamic texts to support their claims.

Who are you to deny them their rights ?

Okay, you're clearly trolling. I have where I wanted you, I would like to see you get out of this one.

You said Islamic means Islam, so by that logic, according to YOU, ISIS must be practicing Islam since they have the word Islamic in it. Why so afraid to answer?

Answer the question, RSS rat.
 
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Again, I've nothing but respect for the religion before you try to interpret it that way. However, taking your argument here, then do you claim that the 'cultural and historical context of hinduism' (your terms) which they do interpret are independent of the religion for you? If so please, explain how.
There is NO history of RSS ever having interpreted Hinduism.

Your individual opinion, which I respect but I would never say that that's what all hindus believe in. Why should it be accepted when you place a broad brush on another group of people?
Every thought and action is in reference to existing realities and if the condition today demands a more militant and less tolerant variation then that is what the society will adopt and advocate. This is the right approach.

Fascinating interpretation; does it mean it gives no moral code nor guidelines to build one on which a society may build their legal system? Is that purely an Abrahamic concept for you?
Hinduism does not deal with "right and wrong". That is a very abrahamic and primitive concept. Hinduism deals with "roles and responsibilities", "actions and reactions", "actions and consequences"
 
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RSS described the BJP win as the victory of national forces.

So, as an organization, RSS supported BJP.. and I don't think volunteers will go against the organization's standpoint.

The article head line is

" What shape will the BJP-RSS dynamics take under Modi 2.0? "

Distinctly showing the difference between the two organization.

There was no directive from the RSS top to support either BJP or Modi.

Okay, you're clearly trolling. I have where I wanted you, I would like to see you get out of this one.

You said Islamic means Islam, so by that logic, according to YOU, ISIS must be practicing Islam since they have the word Islamic in it. Why so afraid to answer?

Answer the question, RSS rat.

I have answered the question. Maybe you are too dumb to understand it ? or are you trolling to get me banned ? (Of course you are and I know it)
 
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There is NO history of RSS ever having interpreted Hinduism.
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https://cpim.org/sites/default/files/documents/rss_book_-_3.pdf
 
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I have answered the question. Maybe you are too dumb to understand it ? or are you trolling to get me banned ? (Of course you are and I know it)

You haven't it.

You said Islam means Islamic. So according to your logic, ISIS is practicing Islam. Is that what that implies or not?

Don't tell me what ISIS claims. Tell me what does your logic tell you about ISIS.

I am only trying to grow some brain cells in you so you know what the difference between Islamic and Islam is.
 
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The article head line is

" What shape will the BJP-RSS dynamics take under Modi 2.0? "

Distinctly showing the difference between the two organization.

There was no directive from the RSS top to support either BJP or Modi.

But, RSS as an organization can have political affiliation, which means????? involvement in politics.

Let me tell you what is not considered politics.. In Pakistan, Tableeghi Jamaat asks its followers to not vote for anyone and remain apolitical. That's truly called a non-political organization.
 
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Again, I've nothing but respect for the religion before you try to interpret it that way. However, taking your argument here, then do you claim that the 'cultural and historical context of hinduism' (your terms) which they do interpret are independent of the religion for you? If so please, explain how.

Cultural and Historical context of Hindus are related to Hinduism but are distinctly separate from the religion. E.g. Establishment of Temples and Tantra that replaced vedic practices.

Which gave rise to a separate cultural renaissance and had varied historical causes and effects.

Your individual opinion, which I respect but I would never say that that's what all hindus believe in. Why should it be accepted when you place a broad brush on another group of people?

You are free to reject it. End of the day the world will judge you by your actions, not by empty words.

Fascinating interpretation; does it mean it gives no moral code nor guidelines to build one on which a society may build their legal system? Is that purely an Abrahamic concept for you?

Moral guidelines in Hinduism are to be reinterpreted based on existing realities of day and age.

E.g. In the distant past Hindu women were free to have relationship with other men even after marriage. No man could own a woman. Which is why in ancient Hindu texts you would find men being recognized by their mothers name. (This was widely practiced in sindh even during british raj)

E.g Karna was known as Rahae. (based on his mothers name).

This changed with time as did morality.

Each age has its own Smriti which provides guideline to keep society stable and on which the legal system is built.

Its not based on right or wrong, but on what is Dharmic.

You haven't it.

You said Islam means Islamic. So according to your logic, ISIS is practicing Islam. Is that what that implies or not?

Don't tell me what ISIS claims. Tell me what does your logic tell you about ISIS.

I am only trying to grow some brain cells in you so you know what the difference between Islamic and Islam is.

I take ISIS on their face value of their claims and my awareness of historical realities.

So if Islamic is not Islam, then neither is "islamic state" based on islam.

Who says that beef shouldn't be consumed? Is this concept not an interpretation of some kind of mythology?

Pretty much every Hindu text says cow should not be killed or consumed.


This is the communist claiming RSS interpreted hinduism.

What value does it have ? less than ZERO.
 
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